Jay-Z and Kanye West’s announcement that Watch The Throne would be to be distributed digitally first then physical copies sold exclusively by Best Buy was met by an overwhelmingly negative response, and for good reason. The mom-and-pop record stores are struggling as it is and missing out on a rare guaranteed-to-sell album such as this one will definitely leave a dent in the cash register.
And when asked to justify this decision, last week Jay’s manager John Meneilly claimed that it was to prevent the album from sprouting a premature leak and other assorted forms of piracy, another statement that was immediately laughed at and deemed impossible. But nothing’s impossible, right?
A record leaking two to three weeks before its scheduled release has become the norm in 2011. Even the biggest ones. Eminem’s Recovery leaked two weeks before schedule and 50 Cent’s Before I Self-Destruct appeared a whopping month early. In many cases, by the time the official date rolls around, the record is old news already and fans are on to the next one.
It has long been assumed that copies are stolen during pressing, but Watch The Throne has obviously been pressed for some time now and there wasn’t even so much as a whimper of an unauthorized graphic, much less the album. So, maybe the duo was onto something after all?
Perhaps the source of the leaks has been the family-owned shops all along or maybe these two just got really, really lucky. But whatever they did worked and it’s bound to turn some heads because the labels are always watching. Fair or not, a trend could possibly be set, one which sees more and more artists cutting out the small business in favor of the conglomerate.
And how can they go wrong? Stores like Best Buy and Target are practically everywhere, so accessibility is definitely not an issue. These stores also have the most marketing power and we assume most of the units are already sold from these outlets. Most of all though, the album didn’t leak early, so sticking with the majors may have more security.
It may be a hard pill to swallow but music is not free. Music is entertainment, and entertainment costs money. Just like movies and sports, the owners must be compensated. It’s not fair to the rappers who oftentimes invest much of their own dough into their music to wind up getting no return on it. The cash isn’t flowing and that’s why most stores have scaled down their CD aisles and why 360 deals came about. And when Watch The Throne moves the units it’s expected to, don’t be surprised when more labels decide to cut the mom-and-pops out of the loop.
Anyways, another promo trailer for WTT before the midnight release on iTunes.
Update: Feast on the album’s 30-second snippets until main course at midnight.
Update #2: The Def Jam press release for the album, which includes specific release info, along with the album art, inserts and a look at the CD (click to enlarge).
“The Deluxe CD-version of Kanye West and Jay-Z’s Watch The Throne will be available exclusively at Best Buy locations nationwide from August 12th – August 22nd. The Deluxe album includes four bonus songs from the duo. The most anticipated release of the year from Jay-Z and Kanye West – also known as The Throne – has already been deemed a “masterpiece,” garnering critical acclaim from press and tastemakers alike.
“It’s been an exciting year so far for the music industry with some major releases, and we’re particularly excited about partnering with leading artists Jay-Z and Kanye on the launch of their highly anticipated album,” said Nate Jarpe, merchant director of music at Best Buy.
The Deluxe packaging for Watch The Throne is high-end art created by acclaimed designer Riccardo Tisci of Givenchy. The softpack, when opened up, turns into a cross-like shape printed on gold mylar with Tisci’s patterns embossed throughout. The package also includes an 18-panel poster that features Tisci’s artwork as well as lyrics to the entire album. The CD is a special edition black colored disc which is not standard with normal packaging. In tune with his codes for Givenchy, Riccardo Tiscicreated an artwork that channels most of his aesthetics: symmetry, lightness, darkness, sharpness and 3D.
Watch The Throne Deluxe edition CD will be available at additional retailers beginning August 23rd.”






Great Post, let’s see if our business changes?
The business of “leaking” might have changed with this album, but the practice of downloading it for free will not. People will just have to wait a few more days to get their hands on the actual product, but that doesn’t mean they’ll get it by paying for it anyway.
People will just have to wait a few more days to get their hands on the actual product, but that doesn’t mean they’ll get it by paying for it anyway.
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I’ll do the same thing i always do: dl it as always and then buy a physical copy.
what i will not do is stay up tonight looking for it lol. it’ll be here in the morn. no big deal.
Sounds like a business deal….
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This is the same Mr. Carter that’s married to Ms. Knowles. Everything is a business deal lol.
It’s hard to hate on their music, but what Jay and Kanye did was just douchey. As if local businesses needed another factor playing against them.
/steps off milk crate
it might make people want to buy it to get to listen to it a few days earlier though
Big Aarp is dead-on!
*gets on milk crate*
@AJ don’t blame Ye and Jay. Blame niggas in the reproduction plants who can’t seem to stop stealing and leaking material. I don’t think it’s “douchy” to want the music you paid and too the time to create released the way you want it to be.
*gets down*
*took the time*
I understand the move that Jay & Kanye made, but I don’t understand why they can’t release it to mom & pop stores as well as Best Buy AFTER the digital release. I smell something fishy. Sounds like a business deal…. No bueno guys.
, but I don’t understand why they can’t release it to mom & pop stores as well as Best Buy AFTER the digital release.
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I believe the exclusive release is only initial.
im listening to it right now…suck it kanye, suck it jay.
They forced us to preorder it early…
…from Hulkshare records.
With the exception of Nas, I’m accustomed to listening to an album before decide whether to buy it. The fact that this one didn’t leak early doesn’t change a thing. I’ll listen and promptly decide not to buy it – because I’m a hater that way…
me, i’m just not buying it. period. i’m a fan, and i’m absolutely about supporting artists putting out dope shit. but when they’re flaunting the millions they already have at me? fuck it. i don’t feel the need to chip in.
just heard the snippets…sounds like something serious man…none of these records sound pop, they all sound insane…to me anyway
I CANT FIND IIIIIIIITTTTTTT! Damnit i guess i gotta wait 2moro…. *blows raspberries*
lil wayne did this with this I Am Not A Human Being album first
lil wayne did this with this I Am Not A Human Being album first
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so now we’re seriously considering I Am Not A Human Being a real attempt at an album… smfh
admirable, but the real key here is the tie-in of concert tickets to the actual CD release. For all the money they’ll make off those sold out shows they could have sold the album for free and turned a huge profit. Which is what kind of bothers me about the whole thing. Squeezing mom and pops stores out of the picture on the year’s biggest hip-hop release at a time when the record store scene is already dying from two guys who have been set for a whole decade kinda seems…asshole-ish. Chuck D may have gotten it right on this one.
For all the money they’ll make off those sold out shows they could have sold the album for free and turned a huge profit.
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Same thing I’ve been thinking for weeks.
To suggest that mom and pop shops are the sole source of leaks – and not major retailers – is ludicrous. It’s just as easy for a Best Buy employee to swipe a CD…
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yeah, we all know how a leak goes –> [cdn.tss.uproxx.com]
@Mr Xclusive- That was originally only going to be a digital release though. It’s also not a real album. Very different situation.
I understand why they took the steps they did; but there has to be a better way to protect their intellectual property without squeezing the mom and pops.
It’s leaking tomorrow.
today at midnite is tommrow
To suggest that mom and pop shops are the sole source of leaks – and not major retailers – is ludicrous. It’s just as easy for a Best Buy employee to swipe a CD…
Imagine if Kanye came in at 10pm and pulled Lil B lol
Stores like Best Buy and Target are practically everywhere, so accessibility is definitely not an issue.
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true ..but only if you live in a city. until Wal-Mart is on their release docket, you can’t say it’s accessible nationwide.
Itunes is accessible worldwide. Problem solved. Anyone who is gonna bootleg this because “it’s not in mom and pop stores” wasn’t gonna buy it anyway. Excuses is all I hear. And independent retailers only make up about 7 percent of total record sales. Best Buy/ Target make up over 50. Itunes makes up about 30-35. And doing it this way has helped from it leaking. Good move in my opinion.
“but Watch The Throne has obviously been pressed for some time now”
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What makes you say that? I’m not sure that is the case, it doesnt take long to press CD’s – the master could be on the way to the plant tonight and they can be in Best Buy in a week, easy.
I think it was a very smart move, and first week sales should reflect that – which was the intention all along.
Correct statistics:
56% MAJOR Retailers (Best Buy, Target, Wal Mart, etc.)
26% Itunes Amazon, digital stores.
8% indie retailers
7% online cd’s
3% other
@Whitewash
b/c the physical copies are pressed about a month in advance, and the album hits shelves on thursday. no way they start pressing tonight and reach stores 3 days later. if they did that WTT would be 2-3x the price
Succumbing to the hype I just downloaded the snippets mp3 that’s been floating about….
Hugely disappointing.
Usually pressed about a month in advance, but I’m sure Jay + Kanye probably have enough influence to hold it back if they wanted. I reckon they could press + get into stores in a week if they wanted to, but maybe 3 days is pushing it a bit.
I agree it would force the price up, but they make a better margin on digital anyway so maybe they are willing to take the hit on the physical, knowing that the digital will make up for it..
Not saying this is what happened, but nothings impossible, right?
I wouldnt go as far as saying mom and pop stores are leaking albums. For me my mom and pop store closed shop in early 09. When they were open I only bought indie albums there knowing they weren’t going to be at Best Buy or Target. Mom and pop stores always had major label albums 6-8 more dollars than major chains so they were my source for those albums.
Leaks have multiple avenues leading to our HDs. Just take a look at this.
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Besides, people will always exploit the free.99 route whenever possible: especially when it comes to entertainment.
^it’s not about completely eliminating piracy as much as curtailing it as much as possible.
No ones saying mom and pops are leaking albums, they get leaked from the trucks, as soon as it leaves the factory its gon’ get leaked. the best buy exclusive is only for the first week. They put all this money, time and effort into making an album i dont blame them for no wanting it to leak. releasing it digital first is the way to go. This startegy has nothing to do with money, its about them wanting the public to have the album the way it was supposed to be, no leaks. Its thier album, they made it, it up to them how its released.
Imagine if Kanye came in at 10pm and pulled Lil B lol
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What if Dame did it?
Imagine if Kanye came in at 10pm and pulled Lil B lol
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What if Dame did it?
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Hilarious
the album already leaked
The release of this one album is gonna be a hit to smaller stores, but let’s face it. The world of music is changing. You either download online or buy it at best buy. I always buy hard copies at BB anyways.
I don’t buy anything before listening to it nowadays. Plus it saves me a step of burning the disc.
I’m just gonna listen to it on Spotify. Besides whats to stop the first person to get it on iTunes to burn it as a CD and rip it back to .mp3 and post it like a most wanted poster all over town.
yeah, we all know how a leak goes –> [cdn.tss.uproxx.com]
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As a guy working to get into music, thats a hell of a visual aid lol. But yeah, this is gonna do numbers regardless.
I’m looking forward to hearing it and its like i’m getting a throwback listening experience since I haven’t heard a song off of it except Otis(which “aspiring rappers” have run into the ground). I will probably be playing Black Ops on PS3 tonight while giving it the first proper spin at midnight, lol.
Hopefully this isn’t the beginning of a new trend. There’s a “mom and pops” store that I support in my town because all new releases are $10, no matter what.
I was willing to spend the 18 or so to preorder Watch the Throne because of how major this cd is. No way in hell I would do the same thing for 90% of the artist out right now.
I think limited accessability is the LAST thing some of these artists want to do, honestly.
People need to quit crying. Consumers have been pimping the artists worse than the major labels.
The people crying about it are the ones that aren’t buying the albums anyway so they don’t even give a fuck about your opinion either way.
The better way I see to keep selling physical copies is the same way they do Blu-Rays. Release it with a digital copy and have like some making of docs or something.
if you were in their shoes you would do the same the goal is to stay rich not fall off cuz if their albums didn’t sell y’all would be blogging so many jokes
To All,
I read a few comments on hear and I agree with some of them, yea it’s wrong to cut the middle man in all of this, but this is business. What they’re doing is no different from what any of us would, if you own your own business or ran a country; it’s all about doing what’s best for you and your company. If I was a decent artist I would do that for all my albums, put yourselves in their shoes something that you worked so hard for and it ended up in every bodies hands months before it was due, I would be piss as heck. So if you don’t agree with what they’re doing I understand we all are entitled to our own opinions.
shit dont matter ama d/l this shit anyway lmao
Look, Here Alone In Vegas, It Best Not To Give It To The Mom & Pop Store. They Get The Masters Open Before release date. Copy Them Put On The Streets For $5.00 A pop. But They sell It to people For 20 SomeThing Dollars. They Need To Faze Records Out. (Moms & Pops) Keep The Big Names. Just how much i’m Going To Lose……
Record stores just aren’t a viable business model anymore. When your primary product doesn’t sell anymore, you have no place in the market. I don’t feel sorry for mom and pop stores because they should have gotten out of the market five years ago. Most of them charge too much for new albums just to turn a profit, and their back collections are made obsolete by the internet.
That being said, I think the Best Buy exclusivity is a bad idea. If it really is the best way to stop leaks, then fine, but say that outright. This is just bad publicity and as low as album sales are these days you need all the impulse buys you can get.
*misses the ‘leaking faucet’ pic*
If it woulda leaked.. i woulda downloaded it. Not cause im adverse to paying for an album.. i already put my preorder in (first time i pre ordered an album….ever..lol) but because I am love music. And if i can get some new good music before everyone else.. all the more better.
But in my search for music i also pay for music.. mostly thru itunes actually. I am all about convenience, if i cant find what i want for free after 1 or 2 searchs i’d rather just go to itunes.
Jay and Ye are going to crush their numbers because of people like me.. which I think is the mass majority of US. We download not because its free but because its the easiest way of getting that new music fix we all phene for. By winning the leak war they took away our number 1 reason to download… to get the new good shit early. .. Them some young smart black boys! lol
leaky faucet picture!.. real talk thats how i first stumbled upon smoking section. lol.
Jay and Ye are going to crush their numbers because of people like me.. which I think is the mass majority of US. We download not because its free but because its the easiest way of getting that new music fix we all phene for. By winning the leak war they took away our number 1 reason to download… to get the new good shit early. .. Them some young smart black boys! lol
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I think they’re fine pre-release but they’re (Def Jam) gonna have to have all hands on deck and endless coffee to try to stop the momentum once that first rip hits lol
I think they’re fine pre-release but they’re (Def Jam) gonna have to have all hands on deck and endless coffee to try to stop the momentum once that first rip hits lol
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That is for damn sure. Best believe that bitch will be on Hulkshare by 12:15. I’m not about to stay up and wait for this thing though. Gotta be up at 7 am. Hov and Ye will probably be in some 12 star hotel drinking champagne out of ancient Egyptian tupperware at that time.
ancient Egyptian tupperware
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lmfao
That being said, I’m an extremely intrigued to hear what this sounds like.
Yeah…even if I did have the album at midnight…ain’t no way I’m staying up till 1am just listening to an album. I think they may have underestimated the country’s ability to defer gratification and our overall laziness/need to sleep lol
Gotty,
They didn’t beat the leak. As Jay put it: “I don’t talk shit, I just flip and Un ya… Sorry lance”. Nobody wanted to get stabbed.. That’s all… Haha!
MaLLy
I have been MIA for a reason folks. Like I have always said… leaks do not have to happen.
I have been MIA for a reason folks. Like I have always said… leaks do not have to happen.
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Where you been? Do tell (c) Omar
I bought the throne concert tickets so I should be getting a “free” link for download (I assume credit for an iTunes download) as soon as it goes on sale.
stoked.
I will have it at 9pm pacific. Once again living in LA is the shit.
I just happen to be awake.
I might just cop it at midnight and talk sh*t on Twitter to cats in the time zones that ain’t got it yet.
Not pressed though.
Intentionally sidestepped the hype.
@Gotty
Same island 808′s and MBDTF were conceived. Landed over 2 weeks ago.
TRA – Next time, I want an invite to be a fly on the wall.
I’m really against the purchase but I expect a lot of spam links and maybe some other crazy shit
Yeah, TRA, you gotta stop going all these places, fucking models and shit and not inviting me.
One day we’re gonna find out that TRA is really Just Blaze or Young Guru some ish.
Same island 808?s and MBDTF were conceived. Landed over 2 weeks ago.
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I need to find out who TRA is, and work with him. The outlook of an artist in 2011 is bleak. Lol
K well it leaked. It’s all over twitter. Now some person blessed with amazing internets skill find the link and post it.
Paid $14.99 for this shit on iTunes… GOnna take it back to the MArshall MAthers LP days and sell bootlegs of this shit for $5 just on principle cuz my ppl already calling me asking for a copy…
I fux wit indie retailers tough so I’ll wait it out for the purchase. I have no idea if the hype will exceed the expectations but I’ll put some scrilla on the line to see if it’s dope or dog food(c)KANE.
One thing I wont do like 99% of the innerwebs is dl the album(for free)then trash it if it aint perfect. If the shit is wack then that’s one thing but this should be good if not exceptional.
I normally dont even support shit this grandiose but I am for that exact purpose. The breakdown of the industry seems to be leading to more collabo albums that would’ve never seen the light of day in the 90′s or early 00′s cuz folks was gettin it major for dolo or the label didnt want to share revenues with another entity. Now shit done changed!
Wait a second…
If y’all didnt see those Rolexes these fools gave to their engineers, then you ain’t seen what TRA has on his wrist as he types to you peasants on The Smoking Section…
Fuck a leak, support the album so the Rolex’s can keep flowing in the RMF family
I was maaaaaad hype about it… until 12 o’clock actually hit.
*Shrug* Idc anymore. Spent too much time worrying about it.
I bet TRA is Kanye. Have you ever seen them both in the same place at the same time?
aaannnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddd……….. stolen… goodnight
I like Why I Love You.
Paid my 15 for it. And plan on buying the physical solely for the packaging.
BTW, 9/10 off based on my first listen.
not even that good cuz.
Reading along with the lyrics to “Why I Love You”…WOW, I’m SO glad Jay put it all out there. I’ve had arguments/conversations in the past about how he’s given so many opportunities to up and comers, and they really did nothing with those chances. Just like he says in the song. Definitely one of the best songs.
not even that good cuz.
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Eh, i’ll probably bring it down a point when I get my skips in order(already skipped Otis and Thats My Bitch). But at this point I don’t see myself goin lower than 8.
it’s a 4 cigs album…sumthing is missing…AND i wish jay came harder on the album tho ughhh
Hi I work for Best Buy the reason they do not release to best buy and mom and pop stores at the same time is because Best Buy has strict guidelines and rules on releases at Best Buy every item sold is tracked or traced so we know when to order more of a product the movie studios and record companies have access to our sales if we sell an album or a movie before its release date they will know immediately and our stores would get $5000 fine or more. with a mom and pop store these sales aren’t traced like ours so its easy for them to sell a CD early (Leak).
GRADUATION
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listen, as long as it keeps coming out on the other side of thee atlantic, its always gonna get leaked, its nuftin they can do about it. its not like them rich muhfuckas forcing stores to sell on “Zulu” time, but hey i can only speak for me, i didnt pay for that shit, i dont even know why they sweating album sells anyways, they gonna murder niggas with ticket sells, they gotta stop it with they bullshit, make they fans happy, let them illegally dl the music, its not like niggas is leakin concerts, nigga u rich, watcha cryin for…
@ronaldo- they can set that trend if they want, the thing they fail to realize is this, ur shit may not leak (come out early), but u still got muhfuckas like me who aint paying, $FREE.99, so until they can prevent that from happening they really aint doing nuftin…
I love you guys!!!
They beat the Internet…..All hail!
Cheap-ass bum-bitches. Buy the fucking CD! Enough with the stupid “Oh, well they’re already rich” argument as if your cd purchase is the only thing that will guarantee them more wealth. If you don’t support then shut your mouth and don’t criticize the work, period.
I thought it was pretty much known that mom and pops were the ones who leaked it. Primarily the online websites, such as hiphopsite.com I have it from a pretty reliable source that people from those places would rip it as soon as they got it.
Makes sense NOT to give it to them.
i work at best buy and we received the album less than 24hrs before the release