What can you say to this? Based on their paths, artistic caricatures and regional proximity, Hopsin and Tyler, The Creator butting heads was bound to happen. Cliques and talents aside, they’re essentially delivering the same product. Odd Future wasn’t even a blip on my radar last October when I was big upping Hopsin as an unknown on the rise. Obviously, things have changed a tad. The 20-year-old Goblin has somehow infiltrated an online marketplace where the Domino Theory can turn tongue-twisting, seven-letter acronyms into branding behemoths while Hospin is left standing with dust in his face and obviously feels a little slighted.
That’s where the “Ill Mind Of Hopsin 4″ comes into play. Fresh off an appearance alongside Bobby Ray on Tech N9ne’s recent 6s & 7s album, the white-eyed Cali spitter delivers this self-directed/produced music video that not only throws very blatant jabs at Tyler, but actually takes it back to the Death Row days, where disses involved costumes. However, instead of calling AJ Johnson for the roll, Hop himself plays The Creator, complete with handfuls of bugs and over-sized, fake ears. The point is obvious: “I been told you aggin’s I’m real, If no one’s confronted you on your bullshit, then I will.”
Validity aside, at this point, would responding be to Tyler’s benefit?


DAMN!!!!!
This is actually funny cuz i thought tyler, the creator was hopsin when i first heard him. but naw, hopsins a better rapper, but i really think tyler’s more creative with the beats he makes and the videos he directs.
Wow. He just went in. Lyrically he is the man, he is just……Eminem. That is all I see, but super talented, he will find his niche, even if it is slaying Tyler.
This is actually funny cuz i thought tyler, the creator was hopsin when i first heard him
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*bodied*
This bull is better than Tyler. Not sure how much weight that statement carries, but it’s not even close.
Looking back at the Hopsin posts, someone did mention Tyler and it only takes a matter a months till we no longer question who Tyler was.
If anything Hopsin is more marketable based on his videos alone.
And the kid went in.
He went in.
lol everyone calls Hopsin black eminem
I knew this would reach TSS sooner or later.
As an OFwGKTA fan, I looked at this with that salty look(Lowry’s), but I admit that this dude can just spit bars on bars on bars. Soounds like a mix of “Infinite” Em mixed with some Tech N9ne. I looked up some of his older stuff on youtube and I might be a fan soon. Apparentl Ruthless fucked him over and he just went ham on em.
Dude is pretty corny..sounds like the beat is a left over off the Eminem Show
I heard his verse on the Tech N9ne & B.o.B collabo and I thought he was good. This however impressed me and i’ll be looking forward for more stuff from this kid.
Scratch that “might be a fan soon” part…more like I’ll keep an eye out for him.
LMAO. Tyler the creator AND this cat are both wack. I always find it funny when 2 completely talentless rappers “beef”.
Damn… !!! He’z ONE UGLY B#%CH… LOL !!! But… The dude iz ILL though…
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I always find it funny when 2 completely talentless rappers “beef”.
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Define “talentless.” Because even though everybody raps today, they don’t have wordplay like that. Tyler included.
Hopsin on Tyler’s beats > Hopsin > Tyler
but WTF was he thinkin’ with the costumes?!?
son lost the second he thought it would be a good idea to throw on a dress, and whoever held the camera decided not to stop him.
This dude went in hard I think he did a good job personal. You can call him but talentless yeah right can you rap like that. If it’s talentless you could also probably spit the way he did in this video. I don’t think I’ll ever be a fan but this was pretty fun to watch.
that facebook shit was hilarious, but the dress…C’Mon Son
son lost the second he thought it would be a good idea to throw on a dress
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Werd. I don’t remember Death Row doing that shit.
What would you all say Hopsin’s & Starlito’s best projects are? Haven’t heard much of either of their music.
What would you all say Hopsin’s & Starlito’s best projects are?
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I’m going to come back to this. Star’s got some dope tapes, from early early Streetball shit to as recent as the past year or two.
I’m a fan of both, but that Tyler shit made me chuckle.
I think lyrically there is absolutely no competition. The dude was spittin for real. It’s a little too weird for my taste and not something that i’d play everyday but at least he was really rapping. He pretty much pointed out everything that I don’t like about Odd Future too so that was cool.
Yeah, he went in.
The worst thing Tyler could do would be to respond to this. He should know picking a fight with someone less famous but more talented usually results in a losing battle.
the first paragraph pretty much described what was going thru my mind when i first saw the video on worldstar.
son lost the second he thought it would be a good idea to throw on a dress
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Werd. I don’t remember Death Row doing that shit.
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LMFAO
All that I am going to say is this…
Tyler is a fool if he responds in ANY way.
This dude could murder emcees. I was not sold on him. I thought he could just flow well… but uh-uh. This is not a battle Tyler could even come close to winning.
Minus the dress… my respect level just shot up x90 with dude *Have to deduct 10 for that*.
“Hate on me but you cannot deny skill…”
Nope. You cannot.
He basically threw Tyler’s whole stye in his face. Crushed him.
Those white contacts are creepy as shit.
Delivery wise he really reminds me of Eminem. He’s got wittier lines than Tyler imo. Tyler knows how to shock but never has he uttered a rhyme that had me laugh in its absurdity which is what Em was good at. I was ready to shit on this dude for dick riding and what have you but that “Nintendo Cartridge” line I can’t lie I replayed like 7 times!
ehhhh idk…Sounds ohdee forced to me, the bars were there, but the punchlines seem back of a Popsicle stick corny.
Son went IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t know whats up with the dress through
@Cal…
Yeah, that Nintendo Cartridge line got me too
tyler already said he wont respond and that hopsin did to him what he did to b.o.b.
yea making a diss record and then cross dressing in the video for said record is the equivalent of Tyler Perry/Madea going in on Spike Lee. Buddy has some lines, the flow has been used to death though.
I like some of the music Hopsin and Odd Future put out, I just can’t vibe too much with it. Hopsin is crazy talented and his rhymes and wordplay are CRAZY, the thing about Hopsin is that the he needs the RIGHT situation to help him advance his career. Strange music is probably the best situation overall for him but I when I listen to him the early Eminem comparisons aren’t far off at all so maybe a Shady Aftermath situation wouldn’t be bad for him (guidance from Em and beats from Dre and other in house prod.) but Hopsin would run the risk of being Stat Quo’d
The cross dressing thing is being overblown in my opinion and I’m not trying to defend dude. Em’s done it, Bus has worn some suspect shit in his videos as well and nobody complained. This “no-homo” generation is fucking up humor and creativity. Now all ni99as can do is make videos of pool parties and strip clubs.
but Hopsin would run the risk of being Stat Quo’d
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But being status quo’d by Em & Dre doesn’t sound like a terrible thing for an artist musically or financially. Just sayin’
That is definitely Em’s flow he’s rocking here, first I heard of him. Gotta check for some more. Thx @Beware
Hopsin sucks. played gimmicks and teen angst. his music appeals to kids who music tastes have yet to evolve past flat beats and weak hooks. He was an actor first and still is, dont forget this. this is all crap done to try and get views off the backs of other artists. his own old label dumped him because he just couldnt generate the hype. now youve got him throwing out names and riding jock like hanes. the kid cant freestyle and has no real ability other than to piece together loops on a computer and half assed written battle type raps from his early AOL days and forums where he would just spam all day long. still broke, still at home, still cant skate good enough to generate any attention in that dept, acting is crappy (see disney imdb), bell pepper nose aint helpin either bruh. next.
So, he gets at Tyler for being a gimmick, then throws on a dress and raps like a bitch? He just ethered himself with that shit. And that beat was garbage.
Tyler WILL MURDER THIS FAGGOT DRESS WEARING ASS BITCH!!!!
haha go hard on it hopsin, not feelin the creator either, videos about rapping girls, that nigga trys to win by shocking but a man do what he got to do, and that’s not what a man gotta do.
I guess i take hopsin side on this one, & i dont like to take sides. except against 50 cent.
@Tg tyler has dressed up as a girl before 2 DUMBASS
I listened to Goblin twice..the story is cool..his lyrics are redundant some beats were mediocre..and “bitch suck dick”..smh..you already know..the ending was good too, but RAW is a completely different album and overall better product. And Hopsin has a dissed and artist with less buzz and fans than him so he doesn’t do stuff like this primarily for the attention.
FUCK ofwgkta there shit compared to FUNK VOLUME! TURN IT UP!
You can only compare them on different aspects. I think hopsin is definitely more consistent. But Tyler and the rest of odd future have some of the best wordplay I have ever seen. As far as creativity and flow, that also goes to Tyler and his crew. But when it comes to Earl Sweatshirt, Hopsin needs to sit the fuck down!
This is a ploy to get tyler to respond, forcing tylers fans and onlookers to check him out, allowing him to leech off of odd futures hype.
If Tyler’s smart he wont say shit.
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Hopsin is wwwaaaaayyyy better than tyler
idk why ppl are getting offended that he dissed tyler, the whole aspect of the ill mind videos are for his fans to be able to see whats on his mind, normally about how he feels with the rap industry.. Hop has dissed artists with a smaller buzz before so idt its for attention and tyler has done the same to people like B.o.B. when it all comes down to it, both people are trying to do the same thing by delivering a message to their fans, and whether u like them both, or only like one of them, they are both better than any of the shit thats on the radio today, anybody should realize that
I personally dont like tyler but i dont hate him either, i would much rather listen to hop or tyler instead of soulja, waka, gucci, or anyone else that people call “rap”
OFWGKTA!
Tyler Is a good rapper it’s just he need to rap about stuff that is not demonic he said he doesn’t believe in any of the things that he says ….then y r you saying it it’s just stupid to me… Hopsin kills i love him yo!!! That’s the kind of rappin I needa hear on dat real hop is reallll and Tyler is real but he needs to stop!
His show was sick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATJa7vaPR_4&feature=related