“It ain’t them that’s knockin’ us off, it’s us that’s knockin’ us off.”
Originally, “White Manz World” was going to be a simple Shuffle post to shine light on one of Pac’s most rousing but unheralded songs. Then G-Dep chose this weekend to make a casual confession to committing a violent act which ended up being a seventeen year old murder case gone cold. Then too, Charles Hamilton allegedly socked a cop. Lastly, DMX spent his 40th birthday in jail on December 18th. Placing all of the jail-related news that transpired in 48 hour window alongside last week’s situation with Gucci, Waka & Miss Deb plus Ja Rule’s guilty verdict and Hip-Hop amassed an unusual amount of time on the police blotter.
G-Dep’s case seems the most perplexing. Aside from jail reports, the former Bad Boy artist is rarely ever seen or heard from unless he is getting arrested (reports say approximately 25 since ’03) so to hear about him wearing police-issued bracelets isn’t odd. It’s the manner of how it all transpired. On Saturday, he popped up on the radar when he went looking for the cops instead of the reverse.
In a post-confession jailhouse interview with the NY Post, G-Dep explained that he wasn’t aware that his victim died but I’m calling bollocks on that one. Having done my share of ignorance, I’m not walking up to the precinct with donuts and coffee in hand and then plopping myself down at a detective’s desk just to share incriminating war stories about when I pulled the trigger on aggins. G-Dep most likely knew his victim was critically wounded, thus his whole dumbfounded approach seems unbelievable, especially him saying “‘When they told me, I was like, ‘Oh, I’m not going home after this.”” No shit buddy.
I contend that he had to be aware and thus his desire to “get right with God,” the epiphany we all experience sometimes but addicts seem to envision more frequently, as if getting high means getting closer to heaven.
“‘I started to wonder if all the bad things that happened to me in my life were karma for what I did… you start to think ‘My happiness is because of someone else’s sadness. I thought that if I turned myself in, it might give me closure.’”
Minor details aside, maybe Dep truly did want to seek forgiveness but I still contend he went about it the wrong way. Salvation from God most likely won’t happen by taking a detour through the U.S. judicial system. The more favorable path to redemption would be to triple your good deeds and not make the same mistakes again. Nevertheless, this guy’s crackhead behavior leads me to believe he probably had more to gain in the form of three hots and a cot instead of fending for himself in the world.
We can hope that G-Dep does sober up and smartens up during his probable bid. The same can be said for DMX too but we all know that won’t happen. Jail’s been a revolving door and the one constant in his life, aside from his continuing battle with addiction. The only other things we could count on with X was that his ride or die b*tch Tasheera would be around but even she ditched his ass. Musically, X has been gone but, as a man who once had the rap world barking and praying in unison, watching him go in and out of jail is senseless, especially given his age.
Charles Hamilton? Someone please find this guy some help. Seriously. In the music biz, I’m sure there are plenty of perilous stories of an incredibly talented young artist who makes moves that sink their careers instead of helping the stroke. However, Charles is managing to one-up them all on some real Todd Bridges sh*t. Sonic The Asshole has run through management teams like toilet paper and made even worse moves along the way to the point where his chances of a career are completely in the shitter. Honestly, I don’t think the kid’s a bad seed and still know he’s talented than more than half the rappers runnin’ YouTube right now. But ask anyone who has ever tried to work with C. Hammy and they’ll tell you he’s got a mental tick, a deficiency which won’t allow him to be great.
Remember when Slick Rick was the only rap cat in jail? Times have obviously changed and, in part, we hear more rap-related arrests because of the proliferation of rappers. If we stopped accepting new entries for a few years on some NBA age requirement shit, that might slow things down a bit for the heavily saturated situation, but I digress. Years ago, situations like these would be easy to blame on the man, but not so much anymore. In the ’80s and ’90s, Black males were inundated with statistics stating more Black males were in jail than college. Thankfully, those numbers have been overturned, but the myth hasn’t been completely debunked. The idea still exists, ingrained in our minds and largely perpetuated by our actions.
A few weeks ago, I had a convo with an artist trying to get on in rap. While he’s had his successes, ascending to the top is taking longer than he planned and he’s got a family to feed. While he waits, he dabbles in dope to support himself and his family. Nothing wrong with that, right? Sounds like the scheme to stay paid so many have taken. The only difference is that this brother has a degree in a financial field and could likely snatch a gig if he wanted because he has both the knowledge as well as the charisma necessary.
Frustrated beyond belief, I scolded him for even telling me about how “hard it is on these streets” and “tough it is to make it in rap” so he had to hustle. No, I responded, he’s choosing to hustle instead of taking the his well-earned sheepskin and the tools at his disposal to eat well while he works and waits on his rap plans to come together. Instead, he’s putting his career and his daughter’s future on the line, walking a treacherous path for no particular reason other than maybe it’ll add to his rap resume and the hours are better than working as a slave.
Speaking prophetically from the grave, Pac seems to have nailed it once again in song.
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“It ain’t them that’s knockin’ us off, it’s us that’s knockin’ us off.”




My initial reaction, from a perpetrator’s perspective, is that he threw himself to the wolves…which he did. The State Of New York don’t give 2 shits about G-Dep’s epiphany and trying to get right.
From the perspective of the victim’s family, they now have some closure & resolution, which is the least they deserve. If the victim was my brother, I’d want justice to be served, but who’s to say what I would feel the proper form of justice should be, especially almost 2 decades after the fact.
gdep just wanted 3 hots and a cot.
there is no way in hell he thought he’d go home after confessing to attempted murder… like they were gonna pat him on the back and say good shot have a nice day support the FOP.
will/can save many a young black man from the depths of the hell hole that is prison or worse, death at a young age. We grow up generations removed from the realities of Jim Crow, The Great Terror, Slavery, and Middle Passages yet we pass the trauma of these experiences from generation to generation. Despite this many of us grow up loved, safe, happy, and successful, so this isn’t a “we all stay suffering” bitch-fest. However, there are many of us who don’t, and they find no meaningful support in dealing with these demons. Sure, there is juvi and prison, but study after study shows it does jack shit in terms of actually rehabilitating folks. On the other hand mental health services and non-punitive discipline have proven to actually work. Unfortunately there is a pretty intense stigma in our community regarding mental health services and providing other supports for folks who make mistakes young. Damn shame, too. I know too many good folks rotting away in prison or in their sorrows that really just need some support in dealing with there issues and some opportunities to get stable (i.e. a FUCKIN’ job!). You can have all the talent and money in the world, but as we can see, it don’t mean ish if you’re not stable.
Good post, Gotty.
One thing’s for sure, DMX’s lawyer is loaded.
He better get used to the same 3 hots & a cot for a long time lol
One thing’s for sure, DMX’s lawyer is loaded.
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By now I’m pretty sure he’s at Public Defender status.
The G-Dep thing is wild. I mean, 17yrs later… It must have been haunting him to no end for him to confess now.
“If it’s to get richer, I’ll probably get withca” G-Dep
Obviously.
Man sheesh! That’s DRY snitchin bro! Lol
Can’t a nigga sell a lil weed?
Times have changed for the young Black man sir! They not givin jobs to us on purpose. I aint sellin weed for no glamour. I got a seed thats one thing but to get a song on the radio is 10 stacks. Plus, every DJ tht can host your mixtape want atleast 5 for they services. Not to mention the $700 a vid WSHH charges smh! Add that up and there you have that $30,000 job you wanted this rapper to get…smh
and we’re not even gone add the costs to put a ad up… *hint hint lmfao
“I mean whats a young rapper to do?” I figured he was just investing in himself!?
Not to mention the $700 a vid WSHH charges smh!
^^^
WTF.
Funny thing is the guys that don’t get locked up and don’t brag about pseudo-criminal backgrounds are the MCs we’re the first to label as fakes.
As I said before, Wackenhut and Corrections Corporation of America are on their way to becoming the biggest urban music labels in America.
I had a discussion about this with some folks not too long ago about how many of the rappers nowadays still dabbling in the dope game vs. other jobs or are saying that it’s “rap or nothing” are speaking that from the, “I just don’t wanna do anything else” perspective. True, the “jumpshot or crackrock as the way to the top” situations still exist (although crack wouldn’t be the biggest seller nowadays), but there are so many rappers in school, have the means to learn a trade, or just get another job that it’s ridiculous.
Me, having a marketable degree from a university, understand this well and know that much of my “struggle” is self-imposed. Or rather shall I say, the barriers to my leaving music alone or altering the game plan are in my psychology and beliefs, but then again, I have no immediate or blood fam to take care of. Life would be different for me if I had obligations. (I hope.) As a result, I know better than to go down some roads with my music.
Anyway, I know folks situations are specific to them, but I’ve seen to much from inner circle perspective for some of the excuses I hear to be respected.
Dope write-up.
@The Aspiring Rapper no shots at you whatsoever. Don’t know your situation at all and WSHH and some of them other prices are a beast. You right about that.
Im sure we will find out soon…and other people get locked up just as much…you just don’t hear about it, because rappers are out in the public eye..while others aren’t…
DMX Files Lawsuit Against Crack Cocaine; Says It’s Manipulative & Presented Him in a Negative Light http://creambmp.com/dmxCrack via Diary of a YBA
Pac said it best. Probably because he was doing most of that bullshit he was complaining about. *half-sarcastically* Way to be self aware, sir.
@Piph
I agree.
speak
G. Dep wanted free room & board.
Now would be the perfect time for the Lifer’s Group to drop some shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YC3-2Al3Kk
Who the fuck is Charles Hamilton?
say what you want but i doubt any of you have ever kiiled or been a part of killing someone: good or bad. I’m finishing up a deployment in south east afghanistan next month as a combat medic and i have. you have no idea how free (mentally)Dep feels right now after giving something like that up. its called being accountable. once he got that shit off his chest i bet the nightmares and the visions of the guy’s face he killed and that creeping feeling that his victim may somehow be hiding in the shadows looking at him at night all go away. to be honest i don’t feel sorry for anybody who’s in jail for something they obviously did its called karma. G dep just fixed his
Chris – I don’t think you should make sweeping judgments, assuming that most every online hasn’t live “that life.”
I won’t say much more than I can relate to what G-Dep’s going thru. I still disagree w/the idea of throwing yourself to the wolves to be judged by a system that most likely hasn’t shown much care or concern for you w/its educational or health care system.
Why those two? because let’s assume if he had a strong education, he would’ve had better options after rap. health care, b/c he’s an addict.
petey wheatstraw
DECEMBER 20, ’10 AT 3:15 PM
gdep just wanted 3 hots and a cot.
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yo when i first saw this story i swear i thought the same thing. puff aint makin no more “special deliveries” to this nigga bank account. gotta eat somehow.
G Dep is one of the few emcees that I really think are slept-on (not that he shouldn’t blame himself in the first place).
On “Everyday” (the original, not the remix with Faith Evans RNB’ing over his raps), he sounds like Bubbles would sound if he was a rapper and not a character in “The Wire”. I guess “Child of the ghetto” and a few underground tracks like “Blow More Spots” are all I am ever gonna be able to get to hear from him.
Isn’t the rap game part of the system? This whole convo seems very 1997, man.
Cats buy what gets pushed on the blogs and what gets pushed on radio and 9 out of 10 times it’s going to be of some lyrical quality that goes against the system or somehow eschews moral responsibility. If you’re a rapper with any kind of spins, with the exception of a tiny few, you’re talking about taking drugs, selling drugs, and shooting or punching people in the face. Poor G Dep. Hey, how come you didn’t mention Black Rob? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b6l3_g-dep-special-delivery-feat-black-r_music
Maybe this is all part of the “Puffy Curse”.