Even though every review is a crew review to some extent, the familial vibes Nasir & Damian’s Distant Relatives almost begged for the veil to be pulled back and the inner workings of our deliberations revealed once again.
Why you ask? Because distant relatives are what we are; a rag tag bunch strewn across the map, banded together by our love of Hip-Hop. Add to the equation that any Nas album piques a vast array of opinions and a fertile ground for debate was laid at our feet. Just ahead you’ll see our ratings discussion which went on for days and probably still would be if Gotty™ hadn’t put his foot down.
J. Tinsley: The project sounded how I expected it to — real thematic. The beats seemed to fit Nas (yeah, crazy, I know) and he definitely had a few note worthy verses on this (i.e. the second verse on “Strong Will Continue”). I even appreciated what Damian Marley brought to the project with his style of music and presence. There are some real good songs on here, no doubt. But I can’t say every song was a classic.
TC: The album is kind of niche. Nas and Jr. Gong obviously have chemistry that dates back to the Grammy-Award winning Welcome To Jamrock, but what about the listeners that aren’t into reggae — at all? They chose the middle ground between Queensbridge scrap rap and Patois preaching, which I guess happens to be Africa, but, like a friend told me when they heard it, this album is for people who live in New York. Straight up.
And why the hell is K’Naan on two songs?
Patrick M: They were on Rock the Bells together last year. K’Naan’s got a killer Somali weed hook up.
David D: Really, the album trails off in the middle. It starts off with a bang then becomes a snoozer. I think it wasn’t enough of a Damian Marley album. They didn’t really seem to meet their perfect middle ground. And let’s not get it twisted…some of Nas’ lyrics are nothing more than pseudo-intellectual gibberish.
K1NG: I mean, yeah. Without songs that stand out amidst the rest, the album blends together to the point where it becomes slightly monotonous. “Count Your Blessings” would probably hit the charts as a smooth Damian jam if it wasn’t for the aggressive Nas verses throwing off the ambiance. The sense of forced collaboration seems to be a running theme that makes it an album that one must be in the mood for; increasing its longevity while softening its impact.
Patrick M: You know I was just talking with someone the other day about how Nas was better one on one guy than team player, and that he wouldn’t be able to function in a group. Therein lies the genius of Damian though, they have vastly different skill sets to bring to the table so Nas doesn’t have to have “Hip-Hop” chemistry. They can just let their different styles play off each other and focus on topical consistency instead of stylistic consistency.
S. Cadet: Hot97′s faithful followers strung out on “Lil’ Freak” and “Over” probably wouldn’t ride to most of the songs offered unless they were at the Labor Day Parade. In my opinion, it skews towards a (mostly older) niche that may hate that crap anyway. Basically, it’s mindful of its identity and serves its audience.
Hell, I like Nas and some Reggae but this album didn’t strike me as a planned attempt to bring in new ears to Nas’, Damian’s, or Reggae’s sound.
TC: They made the album that they wanted to make; the album that they were free to make which is fine. But how is this supposed to transcend outside of the intended audience?
Patrick M: I think you’re heavily downplaying the crossover appeal of Nas and the Marley name, TC. You don’t think some of these tracks could become summer anthems, particularly on the East Coast?
TC: What tracks? “As We Enter” been out how long? Did any of y’all even watch the video more than once? I know one of these joints got picked up by FIFA but I’d say that’s more of a management/marketing thing above all.
Patrick M: “As We Enter,” “Strong Will Continue,” and “Patience” stood out the most. Sad to say, they’re all at the beginning.
S. Cadet: I think albums can gear towards certain audiences since everything shouldn’t have to go broad. But you still have to gauge your reactions if a record exceeds your expectations. I wasn’t expecting this album to sound that great. But it wasn’t like I was counting down the days until it dropped anyway so…take that for what it’s worth.
Gotty™: I tried. Made it through approximately fives songs before I needed a nap. I wasn’t anticipating it, never bothered to listen to the leaks, none of that. I echo what was said in that this would’ve been fine as a Damian Marley album minus Nas. They included Nas…and it just sorta throws it off for me. It’s not bad, but nothing I feel like revisiting at the moment.
MZ: I think the vibe of the album caught me more than anything else. I don’t think it sounds forced from a musical standpoint, but it definitely falls off hard after “Dispear.” Why? Because I think they realized they weren’t really focusing on Africa. I’m not sure of the recording process, but from a sequencing standpoint you get that feel. So they overcompensate and that’s why we get Jr. Gong comparing African countries to U.S cities on “Land of Promise.” Get on Nas for throwing words together David, but Damian is pretty much doing the same thing.
David D: Good point sir. I also agree that this would have been better served as an album that focused on whatever. Because album carries on a nice pace right up until the last chord of “Dispear,” where the album comes to a screeching halt. It’s as if Nas decided that every inspirational song had to sound like “I Know I Can,” and made watered down retreads. Nas’ lyrics suffer from the same fate as his previous “serious” tracks in that, when you put the lyrics under a microscope, they really don’t hold up. First of all, much like Sincere from Belly, it appears as though Nas can’t name a single country in Africa. He’s better on tracks like “Friends,” where he can speak to what he knows.
Gotty™: And to think, there’s been a mini campaign for 5 Cigs for this one in the comments for about a week now…
Patrick M: You know that a small segment of the population is going to throw that out there for any Nas album. He and Foxy could release Best of Both Worlds 4 and they’d be all over that.
MZ: I think the 5 Cig talk is coming more from people being glad it didn’t suck. With lower expectations come a greater ceiling to impress. It’s between a 3.5 & 3, but for them I might lean towards the latter because they can do better. The first half showed the potential & the second half is our worst fears confirmed.
Patrick M: 3.5 or…3? I thought we already gave Nas some legacy bonus points by giving his last joint a 4. Holy shit did that album fall off! I’ll listen one more time but I’m leaning towards a 3.
MZ: I think that album had very little replay value versus falling off. Their relational connection is weed & brew, so they would’ve been better off making more songs like “Friends” & “Strong Will Continue,” letting the African references come up naturally.
TC: I think a lot of folks (still) get caught up in Nas being Nas and the fact he was born to rap. So naturally, he can flow to any beat. The production isn’t bad but it isn’t exciting. It treads in repetition like on “Nah Mean” and who’s really going to listen to “In His Own Words” outside at an outdoor concert?
David D: I think the last two songs are decent, but this was a 3.5 for the strong start anyway, in my honest opinion. Damian Marley met Nas halfway, and came up with a watered-down version of his debut album. “Tribes at War” and “Strong Will Continue” are vintage Damian, but sometimes it all seems really forced. Nas and Marley find a common ground on the album…but unfortunately that space is a step below what each of them is capable of. And…it’s boring. Downright. It’s bland.
Gotty™: Hold up. If this is 1-2 listens, which seems to be the case, why are we calling it a 3.5?
K1NG: It’s not 1-2 listens. There are definitely times when i will be listening to this in the future, it just won’t be a daily occurrence. Last night i was high in the woods sitting round a campfire, and it was the perfect soundtrack. (Laughs).
J. Tinsley: (Laughs) That’s some real high shit. Distant Relatives is a good album. Just that, good. Not to piggy back on what everyone else is saying, but it really should have been a Damian album with some Nas appearances sprinkled here and there. If this album was supposed to make me want to support Africa (I think that’s why they made it, right?), then, well, I was not motivated at all. To me, there is little replay value on this album. I tried giving it another spin yesterday and honestly couldn’t make it through the entire thing.
They were probably better off leaving it an EP like they had originally planned.
MZ: It was already a middle of the road album by the halfway point and the last few tracks, while a change of pace, don’t bring the rest of the album up as it was already a 3.5 by a hair.
David D: Overall, it’s a good album. But honestly, if we weren’t doing this review I wouldn’t be listening as many times as I am.
Gotty™: I’ll keep listening but…I don’t know.
Patrick M: After repeated listens, I guess I’ve soured on it as everyone else has. The instrumentals for these tracks, particularly the intros, are appallingly bad. Many of them end up building into better songs once the Damian and Nas get in. Their strong vocal capacities can literally turn shit to gold, or at least bronze.
I agree it has situational appeal and K1NG, I could see how it could um…fit that occasion. I still think there are moments where the potential for this pairing works. “Strong Will Continue,” despite it’s kind of 80s cheesy movie beat is pretty anthemic and Nas’ verse where he reflects on his Kelis split is more dimensional than anything off of…oh let’s say The Blueprint 3.
S. Cadet: Distant Relatives boils down to being a mostly precise record. What’s offered here is cohesive for the most part save for some awkward adult contemporary sounds strung about. Moreover, Nas’s flow compliments the album’s overt island sound better than I thought. But I couldn’t help but feel like he was playing the Mo Williams role throughout much of DR. Most of the album’s production sounds as if Damian could have held down the fort on his own. Yet, he invited Nasir to give it a more familiar sonance among rap heads. The pairing isn’t like mixing oil and water. However it’s not a perfect storm from my point of view.
In short it’s competent and the better tracks like “Tribal War,” “Dispear,” and “Land of Promise” give it some replay value. But we’d be gasping at straws if we tried to exalt it as a great LP.
TC: What does that say for the quality of the album leaks if not too many of y’all were too enthused to put a “Nas album” at the top of your rotation?
David D: It’s more of a case of forcing an inorganic subject matter out of a project that didn’t need it. You can’t just say “I’m going to make an album about Africa” and just start recording…just like you can’t wake up one morning and say “I’m going to Africa” and book a flight to “Africa.”
Patrick M: I just think this would have been better if it was straight Reggae with Nas chiming in. Right now it seems like it’s stuck between Reggae and Hip-hop and the chemistry’s all fucked up.
TC: I say it’s just really not all that appealing, period. Nas will always be Nas and Damian is pretty adept in his rapping skills; they cover inspirational and factual topics but on the music side, it’s just kinda “meh.” 55 minutes of Jamafrican Hip-Hop isn’t got to reach a lot of bases. It’s too niche. And songs like “Nah Mean” just have some pretty humdrum production. The whole album sounds like a World Hunger commercial truthfully.
S. Cadet: They don’t have to emulate more energetic artists to grab ears as they’ve been capable of making attention grabbing tracks on their own. It’s just a matter of sounding sleepy as hell no matter what the subject matter is about. They could’ve been rhyming about snorting coke while skydiving at Distant Relative’s pace and it’d still make my ears grow tired midway.
K1NG: I wanted this to be a 4 badly. It’s lyrically tight and musically adequate but I just can’t justify that when there is so much great music coming out for free right now that is just as good, if not better than this album.




3.5 strikes again!
3.5 cigs? SHOCKER.
I shall enter the store and buy. I expect audio dopeness.
This minuses sucka shit by -100&2 pts.
you dudes just lost all credibility on some Source mag shit.
indeed agree.. 0ne!
no mention of ‘Friends’?
thats my favorite track on the album.
I wonder… how old are the silly fools giving their opinions on this album? You guys call this a review? If anyone listens to this album and concludes that there’s no chemistry between these two artists, they seriously should get their ears checked. Most artists these days make a song over a mailed-in beat and throw in mailed-in verses and hooks… and have the gall to call it chemistry. These guys actually collaborated, and the product shows. I’ve never heard a perfect album in my life, and this certainly isn’t, but it’s damned awesome from a musical standpoint.
hahaha drake is getting the 5 cigs , they saving it for the most antisipated album of the over .. oh not yet i mean year
Monotonous, sleepy, niche no they got this correct. I definetly appreciate the effort but once you get pass that it is about the album and personally i would have given it a three. This year so far has been pretty non-inspiring, next up: THE ROOTS “HOW I GOT OVER”
Thank you TSS for still giving correct reviews and not falling into “classic” before the album even begins to marinate status.
4-0
“I’ve never heard a perfect album in my life…”
Wow. You should probably check out more albums.
(No offense)
“I wonder… how old are the silly fools giving their opinions on this album?”
“Silly fools?” Now that is just uncalled for lol.
The ages vary greatly. Trust that many were around for great music – including the “Golden Age” of Hip-Hop.
and @none you may want to check out “Madvilliany” for creative music and “chemistry”
Just sayin”
Co-sign David D on Nas spitting pseudo-intellectual stuff. His third verse of “I Can” proved such. I saw this album today at Barnes and Noble and expected a 4. Hip-Hop DX gave it a 4.5 and TSS gave it a 3.5. I’m taking the TSS review because it’s more of a collective and concise review.
it is boring though.
Sorry… but no, never heard a perfect album, hip-hop or otherwise. I’m not even a “Golden Age” hip-hop kinda guy, I’m not that old. Illmatic had flaws, Pain in Full had flaws… take your pick… hell, Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Going On” album wasn’t perfect. I know people will throw their arms up in disgust at me saying that. I love those albums, but every album I’ve ever heard has at least 1 or 2 songs that I just don’t care for. In my eyes, that doesn’t tarnish their legacy in any way. Everyone has their favorites and they’re still classics. I also would never play myself into elevating Distant Relatives to classic status. That it is not.
I also think that if you’re going to go to such great lengths to basically trash this album throughout the review, then you shouldn’t give it a 3.5. Go lower, since the rating you ended up giving doesn’t accurately reflect the opinions expressed in the review.
I’m undoubtedly biased, but what I read here was the process of a group of intelligent individuals mind-fucking each other into some groupthink shit. Nahmean?
I saw the album performed live and it grew on me a lot more after that… I agree with the 3.5 rating… people either seem to love or hate this, i like it, but it took some time, and there is nothing on here that is revolutionary… More listenable then his last album though, in my opinon DJ Khaled got some of the best NaS tracks in years…
I always check and rate the Smoking Section but this is some of the most ignorant shit ive read in a minute, and not up to the usual standard at all. TC’s unbelievable comment but “what about the listeners that aren’t into reggae — at all?”, well they probably should avoid an album made by the son of man who popularized the music globally! You don’t need to be a detective to work that out.
Personally I wouldn’t even give it three and a half cigs, maybe two and a roach… and that’s mainly for ‘Land Of Promise’ and getting Mulatu Astatke some publishing coin with ‘As We Enter’. It’s a shame, it’s not a great record and will be forgotten quickly but that’s no excuse for dropping the ball so badly with the review
You’re better than this Smoking Section
“I also think that if you’re going to go to such great lengths to basically trash this album throughout the review, then you shouldn’t give it a 3.5. Go lower, since the rating you ended up giving doesn’t accurately reflect the opinions expressed in the review.”
^^^^^
I agree with that. I’m struggling to believe that your other 3.5 cig recipients (of which there are many) enjoy this level of deliberation and eventual savaging. That read like a 2 cig review to me. I guess I’m cynical that way…
I just saw them perform last night in Santa Cruz, and it was fucking awesome. I didn’t really have any expectations for the album, nor did I hear any of it before the release, but I really enjoy it. I am a big fan of Halfway Tree and Distant Relatives kind of reminded me of that album, with just a little more rap. To me it seems like they made the music they wanted to make, who cares what everyone thinks of it..if you like the music, listen, otherwise keep it movin.
I also don’t understand the 3.5 rating, with all of the negativity feeding off each other it seems like the album would be rated lower.
side note: I would like it if k’naan/jr gong made an EP (at least) and if k’naan/wale would do the same…they make great music together.
…TC’s unbelievable comment but “what about the listeners that aren’t into reggae — at all?”, well they probably should avoid an album made by the son of man who popularized the music globally! You don’t need to be a detective to work that out.
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No his point was valid – there will be plenty of people approaching this project as say, a Nas fan with little or no interest in reggae or vice versa. Will this project have anything of interest for Nas stans who don’t usually check for reggae?
Really? I found this to be one of the most cohesive albums I have heard in a while, and I also found Nas & Marley’s chemistry to be extremely good. I’ve listened to this album A LOT & I absolutely love it. I think it is an extremely important album and I’d rate it 5/5 myself.
What’s sad is that I bought it and listened to it on release day swearing up and down that it was hot… and I haven’t went back to it since. It’s hot though.
leave it to the internet to get riled up over someone elses thoughts on an album; jesus
“I think the 5 Cig talk is coming more from people being glad it didn’t suck. With lower expectations come a greater ceiling to impress. It’s between a 3.5 & 3, but for them I might lean towards the latter because they can do better”
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Pretty much. After reading this while listening to it, my opinions changed. I did enjoy it but it’s kinda monotone and TBH I didn’t even know this was for Africa, I’m pretty sure Africa’s got some more uptempo tunes. And this will be forgotten easy cause Nas may be known in the Hip-Hop world but he doesn’t have a Wayne or Jay-Z draw to the mainstream.
I like these group reviews, I’m guessing Thank Me Later will get the same treatment?
The cigs used to mean something, a four was like
You were the shit, now it’s like the least you get
Three and a half now just means you’re a piece of shit
Four and a half or five
Means you’re Biggie, Jigga, [s]Nas[/s], or…
I mean, I haven’t listened to it yet (sleepin like a motherfucker) but yall gave Kid Cudi 4 cigs and I’m never gonna let you live that down.
groupthink
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I’ll never understand this term.
The cigs used to mean something
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…until we were infiltrated by the old Source, huh lol?
they probably should avoid an album made by the son of man who popularized the music globally! You don’t need to be a detective to work that out.
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Hmm…So, by your logic…Rev. Run & Diggy…nvm.
You guys seem like A&R’s of high profile labels. Who cares who this album is catered for or what niche this falls in. Review the music not who the core audience is.
I actually do agree with a 3.5…but like most people have said seeing this live is something else, it was a great performance…I’ve seen Nas countless times and him doing this was his most energetic performance yet.
i loved it. been bumpin it all week. it sounds huge, the beats are great, and they both really go hard on it.
yalls hate for nas runs strong on this site…
nas is was and always will be one of the most enigmatic figures in hip hop…untitled was a dope album and i still cant really figure out all the nas beats suck talk.
they cant all be bangers.
Spot on.
I know I was supposed to be impressed by their effort…but I wasn’t.
I guess this is why I never heard of the website. This Album is ridiculously good. Nas will always be the most hated on MC, and thats because he’s one of the very few MC’s who arent afraid to take chances and make music he believes in. Every other MC compared to or mentioned in this review or comments wouldnt even have the balls to touch an album like this.
In my Opinion and man others this is an album for the ages. Check some other reviews… check music fans on twitter… real hip hop sites like hiphopdx.com, allhiphop.com etc.
FUCK THIS SITE!!!
Untitled was dope, that’s why it got a 4. High on lyrical content & lacking in beats. The hate for Nas is not strong over here.
real hip hop sites like hiphopdx.com, allhiphop.com etc.
^^^
This guy can’t be serious.
@ ARon
I don’t think we were reviewing the core audience as much as we were trying to gauge who may like the album for a moment. I don’t think that’s a bad move when albums lead to split opinions or direct themselves to specific audiences. DR did both.
I read the pitchfork review and I think they gave it a 7 something becuase it sounded like the modern day attempt at a Bob Marley record. I had listened to all the leaks and it was that reviews comment that actually tied the album together for me. I’d agree with the rating but I thought it was a pretty complete project.
I actually agree with the rating… I have more of proclivity towards Nas, so I can see the 3.5. It doesn’t move me the same way R.P.M.( a solid 4 in my book) does or OB4CL2 (you guys gave this a 4 or a 4.5, I forgot?), but it isn’t a bad album. I think its better then Blueprint 3 was. I don’t think they’ll give TML a 5…i’ve listened to literally 80% of the album and I like Drake and its not that good.
And real hiphop sites like allhiphop.com? LOL…and i used to work there LMAO
i agree with a guy who called these guys “fools”, ’cause i think they talking shit. this album is not a pop album and you have to be in the right mood to “get” it. so open your minds and appreciate the album for what it is.
After coming here for years I think I should let most of you know that Gotty actually likes Nas lol
It’s definitely going to be interesting to see the review of RPM…but just off production alone: RPM>>>>DR
What the fuck?! This is a joke right? 3.5? If Drake gets anything more than a 2 (in comparison) I will be outraged!
5 cigs from me.
wow. Just wow. This album review made me reassess both the reviewers and the album. The reviewers ended up losing. Guess music is subjective but this album is a whole lot better than anything I have heard remotely connected to Hip Hop in the last few years except for maybe OB4CL2. Maybe b/c I listen to reggae more than hip hop. Maybe b/c I can hear what Damian says clearly, dunno … something must be lost in translation.
smh
4.5/5 for me.
Good night
Best rap album released this year so far.
Fair review, though I have to agree with the argument that there seems to be a disconnect between the discussion and the score.
Personally, I thought it was a solid album. Flawed, and tedious at times, but also a good listen when in the right mood. 3.5 in accurate, good to see TSS didn’t follow in the line of hip-hop critics who have been overrating this.
* 3.5 IS accurate
Count My Blessings gets repeat play. The rest of the album…not so much.
If Distant Relatives is 5 Cigs…nevermind.
To me it seems as if the TSS crew started from a 5 cig expectation (not necessarily their own, but possibly the vast opinion of the peanut gallery and other varying sources) and smoked their way down to 3.5 cigs. That would account for the harsh critique that equal a standard rating. And really, if we’re not being cynical, you probably have high expectations for this album. I mean, it is Nas and Junior Gong. Just like if Nas & Jigga ever collabed for an LP, I would imagine the same starting plateau.
lol, dope ass approach towards reviewing this, I can’t agree with the rating, but regardless, lovin the brotherhood/camaraderie
Yeah!?
Got? out ?the ?600?
Blunted?
Chicks? hunt ?him?
Neighborhood? know? he ?comin’?
Jake? hate ?him?
Snakes ?could ?not ?violate ?him?
Pimps ?memorize ?his ?lines ?verbatim?
He ?reps? N.Y. ?yo?
Gives ?C ?notes ?to ?winos?
Not ?church?
It’s ?how? he? tithe ?tho?
He? walks ?the ?tenement?
Sleeps ?at ?his ?super ?fly? condo?
My ?kind?a ?nigga?
My? Icon, ?my ?Idol?
No? certificate?
For? this ?misfit ?who ?handle ?business?
The? odds ?stacked ?against ?him?
He? fights ?back ?mack’n ?Benzes?
Never ?puts ?cash ?or ?ass?
Before ?friendship?
He ?laughs ?last??
As ?some? die ?young?
He ?is ?still ?existing?
Somehow ?he ?got ?around ?the ?pitfalls? of? the? system?
When? he ?walks ?we ?watch?
When ?he ?talks ?we ?listen?
Leaders? ? ? ?
Who ?do I? follow??
Who? do? I? copy??
Look ?in to? the ?mirror?
And? it’s ?you? I ?see ?look ?at ?me?
Everything? new?
Like ?it ?fresh ?from? the ?factory?
Everything ?you ?do??
It ?impact ?me?
Your ?lifestyle? attract? me?
Parents ?try ?distract ?me?
When ?I ?grow ?up?
I ?want ?to ?be ?like ?you ?exactly?
And ?as ?soon ?as ?I? get ?over ?this? acne?
There’s ?no?way ?anybody ?coulda ?stop ?me?
Me ?gravitate ?toward ?the ?aura?
And ?all ?the ?mannerism?
The ?sending ?out ?of ?orders?
And ?man ?start ?moving ?busy?
The ?locking ?of ?the ?corners??
The ?streets ?and ?all ?the ?buildings?
Mi? love ?you ?like ?a ?father?
Mi ?ready ?and ?mi ?willing?
Anything ?what ?you ?a? talk?
Is ?law ?in ?my ?dominion?
And ?mi ?have ?similar ?thoughts?
I ?share ?the ?same ?opinions?
Mi ?have ?it ?say ?you ?smart?
With ?mi ?best ?interest ?at ?heart?
I’m ?following ?your ?path?
Yow ?mine? whe ?you ?a ?walk?
They? appeal? to? the ?conscious?
The ?Paramount?
The ?Cesar, ?the ?monsters?
The ?grandiose, ?the ?matters?
The ?hell ?on ?earth ?pompous?
Ellsworth ?Bumpy? Johnsons?
The ?Harlemites ?the ?Garveyites?
Black? as ?the ?credit ?card? we ?swipe?
Poppin’ ?Dom ?tonight??
For ?all ?of ?mine?
I? can? see ?myself ?back ?at ?the ?Autobahn?
Malcolm ?on ?the ?podium?
Shells ?drop ?to ?linoleum?
Swipe ?those?
Place? ‘em ?on ?display ?at ?the ?Smithsonian?
Next ?to ?only ?gems?
That ?were ?left ?behind?
By ?holy?men?
Infectious?
Charisma ?of ?those ?who ?gave ?us ?direction?
The ?anti?sexes?
Resistance ?against ?oppression?
Progressive? thinking?
Ghetto? speakers??
Protestors ?against ?the ?colored?
Only ?section ?to ?the ?Jena? 6 ?and?
The ?Frost ?Nixon?
The ?contradiction?
The ?cross ?the ?crucifixion?
The ?loss ?we ?took ?for ?sinning?
On ?Esau’s ?back ?inscription?
That ?it ?was ?written?
That ?nothing ?is ?coincidence?‘n?
They? took ?our ?leaders ?and? they? lynched? them? ? ?
Sorry for the lyrical spamming but I’m still shaking my head.
chemistry in Reflection Eternal >>>> chemistry in these Distant Relatives
It’s not like I go to this place for reviews. Do reviews in a more professional manner and maybe I will.
Sorry to say…. but this album got really boring really fast.
Sorry to say…. but this album got really boring really fast.
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Pretty much sums it up. It has songs you can revisit every now and then, but repeat plays of the whole thing are not advised.
ARon’s right, I’m a Nas fan so…yeah.
I still surprised that nobody liked Friends, that was the best song.
Damian Marley blacked out all over this album but like Ragga said I don’t think people could understand due to the accent (friends, tribal war, nah mean, patience).
The Africa theme wasn’t just about lyrical content but also production.
The only complaint I have with the album is why the Lil Wayne feature? So out of place.
I still think it’s a 5-cig album but then again I like reggae music/carribbean/world-music influenced sounds so it was what I expected it to be. Different strokes for different folks – shit y’all think American Fakester….errr, Gangster – was a 5-cig album and I think it’s a fancy coaster for drinks *shrugs* such is the way of things.
http://www.twitvid.com/JUVKN
Check out this performance and understand why this album will be a movement beyond your two month hits.
When I first heard this album, I immediately knew anybody who is unfamiliar with or doesn’t listen to much reggae would get bored with it. Not to say all those who got bored with the album don’t listen to reggae.
Musically alone, this album definitely deserves more than 3.5 cigz, but TSS is correct in thinking their Boosie and Starlito demographic would sleep (literally) on this one. Truth is, I can’t see anybody who isn’t a die hard Nas/Damian fan listening to this jawn on repeat.
Hell, if Illmatic dropped in today’s climate it would probably be considered boring by a bunch of “rap” listeners.
^^ Agreed
“The only complaint I have with the album is why the Lil Wayne feature? So out of place.”
That’s exactly what I though. Lil Wayne was easily the worst part of the album.
I like this album.
Great production on the album first off… yall are spot on with the 3.5 tho. Promise Land, Patience, Nah Mean, As We Enter are all sick tracks. Surprisingly tho, I was pretty pleased to hear a more reggae/alternative vibe than just raw hip hop. Nothing better than thinking you got an all Damian Marley track, then outta nowhere, 2 minutes in, nas spits crazy bars.
Oh and the Lil Wayne feature. I HATE LIL WAYNE…….. BUTTTTTTT he definitely kept it real on that feat. No mindless metaphors or goofy adlib laughs.
http://www.distantrelatives.com/lyrics/all/distant_relatives-1#1
Look at Damian’s lyrics in Leaders and Friends … I think the art of story telling is missed. The use of the perspective of an impressionable youth (” as soon as I get over this acne”) and the corresponding vocal modulation is brilliant. Nas last verse is powerful and on point with the song. Friends he writes from a perspective of someone talking to a fallen friend with a poetic structure backed by the vibe of the music that is missing from 99% of modern music.
To me, y’all giving this a 3.5 is almost like giving Etta James a 3.5. Some music is just unquestionable.
Good album.
Too bad Nas was on it. That fucked that Damian Marley flow up..
Hell, if Illmatic dropped in today’s climate it would probably be considered boring by a bunch of “rap” listeners.
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Sad but true. The more people just download music instead of buying it the less they are able to actually appreciate it.
I kinda agree with what TC was saying that it sounds like a World Hunger commercial.
But at the same time, I enjoyed this album more than Untitled. Which I also thought was a 3.5 rating.
I would probably give it a 3.8 rating. There are some good cuts on this. “As We Enter”, “Friends”, and “Land of Promise” are my favs.
A good album just not Nas’s best work really I feel it’s time for Nasir to retire IMO but about a 3.5 it’s true
The truth is Nas is East coast rapper if you ain’t from the EC you don’t feel the same
If you guys get so much flack over the 3.5 cig rating, then maybe you need to come up with a systmem that allows for more nuance (out of 10 maybe, or something similar) or create categories to rate more specifically (production, lyrics, cohesiveness, intangibles, comparison to similar works, etc.) because what you posted makes it seem like you are just going off of a gut feeling that you then talk about and don’t change and I think it doens’t do your site credit. I really enjoy a lot of what you do and I mildly enjoyed this album but I think this review shows your shortcomings more than your strengths.
If you guys get so much flack over the 3.5 cig rating,
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O.K. This one I will entertain.
For starters, you mofos act like we’re the ones making the albums lol. We just report the gospel. And there seems to be a general misunderstanding that most albums released are in the decent-to-solid range. It’s a fact of the matter. An absolute classic is basically just as rare as a flat-out zero. Albums are streamlined, executive produced and have several hands on ‘em. So even when you may obvious no-gooders like a Tyga, Trina or a Gucci Mane, that doesn’t mean their album is going to be the pits. Honestly, the best thing these artists can do is to make a generic track with a big name producer, star R&B artist on the hook and have 3 clean 16′s. It may not be tight but you can’t just dismiss because it doesn’t snuggly fit in your personal backpack. We’re logical reviewers. No bias, no bullshit. Anybody who thinks this album should have got a 4.5/5…you might wanna get that blacklight out because…yeah…
And the 3.5 shit is old and a myth. Anyone can clearly click on the Album Review tag and see that inaccurancy. Whether or not you read every review is on you, but there’s fact-checking available to you all.
Lastly, our scale is of 1-10. If anyone is suggesting that we adjust to a twenty point scale, ask yourself how ridiculous is that. What’s the difference between a 8.5 and 8.0? If a series of reviews get rated 2.5 and 4.0, they still both suck. What’s the difference in criteria? Wouldn’t an album have to at least get a 7.0 for you to even check it? And just like the standards go, we wouldn’t be going that low anyway, so all we would have is a peanut gallery complaining about the 7.5′s.
best reviews out.
i can go for a 4 after this review
but DR is great music so it can up to 4.5
official album.. so a classic to me 5 cuz i like it.
ps: people talk about great mixtapes for free today… wit Pill, Gibbs and more but let’s we see the album format cuz it’s easy to put a crazy mixtape (Nigger MixTape, u remember) it’s a easy format wit internet right now.
step ya format up yall !!!
Yeah. Still a 4.5+ album for me.
But then again, I’m in the target demographic.
A lot of grumpies…
the beats were seriously either a) underappreciated or b) underrated
patience, nah mean, the promise land.
if you have any appreciation for reggae these beats go HARD.
yes, this album will not go down in history as nas’ best but these songs independent of themselves are absolutely amazing examples of a genre that hardly even exists now. rolling in the whip, windows down, this shit blasting…really can’t beat it.
Have to co-sign TC on that one…
i think you reviewers dont listen to reggae/dancehall that much coz if you did you wuold know the beats were he perfect balance between the two.
secondly, everybody knows that Nas has taken a new turn in his lyrics and character since untitled with selected choice of his tracks and features…not exactly his most comfortable lane which is why Damien Marley outshines him lyrically..not to say he was wack.
thirdly, this is the first time an album like this has been tried. and they did extremely well with the topics and trying to get people to relate hence land of promise, nahmean, patience, friends, leaders, count your blessings. this generation was executed poorly.
i would give this at least a 4 cigs coz they did what i expected, it could have been worse..couldnt have been better. 3.5 cigs is a poor rating. the good points werent even talked on…bad review….just take the L.
The point of my post is that I am not sure that Fornever and Distant Relatives are critically equal and I don’t think you guys do either but the current method you are using says that they are the same. Why were either of these just as critically good as “Battle of the Sexes”. I never said you only give 3.5′s but people above were complaining over it so I addressed the issue. I love your site, I read you reviews, I was just making a suggestion. Please take it as criticism and not judgement.
Nas OG Status
They should have dropped this album without Nas.
Then it could have been something.
3.5 still too much for this..
@ Max
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I really liked this album, and in no way I agree with the review above. I hear what some of you are saying about Nas spitting “pseudo-intellectual gibberish” on a couple tracks but that’s it.
Most of the beats are really nice and even though there’s only one “party” record on this it is still really GOOD music. I like the chemistry between both of them and I’m looking forward a performance from these nigs to see their stage chemistry but as far as the album goes it’s really nice.
I give it a 4, that’s the less I can give.
Stand-out tracks: AS WE ENTER, Strong Will Continue, Dispear, FRIENDS, Promise Land, In His Own Words & PATIENCE
I want to see nas and damian marley last night in san diego, I love everything about this show all the songs where great…..i was very upset when the show was over….. cause those two left you wanting more and more….can’t wait to see them again
I loved NAS from day one keep on doing you and never mind those hater……YOU CAN HATE ME NOW BUT I CAN”T STOP NOW {For all the hata}
When I first heard this album, I immediately knew anybody who is unfamiliar with or doesn’t listen to much reggae would get bored with it. Not to say all those who got bored with the album don’t listen to reggae.
Musically alone, this album definitely deserves more than 3.5 cigz, but TSS is correct in thinking their Boosie and Starlito demographic would sleep (literally) on this one. Truth is, I can’t see anybody who isn’t a die hard Nas/Damian fan listening to this jawn on repeat.
Hell, if Illmatic dropped in today’s climate it would probably be considered boring by a bunch of “rap” listeners.
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I agree.
This review urks me though cause everyone was on the same page. “Promised Land”, “Patience” , & “Africa Must Wake Up” were tracks that I listened to on repeat. For a collaborative effort, this is exactly what I wanted to hear/expected. The messages & vibe of the music is great. It was worth my money.
I give this a 4 but like someone else said, I was in the target audience…
I’m looking forward a performance from these nigs to see their stage chemistry but as far as the album goes it’s really nice.
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WORD went to the UCLA Reggaefest yesterday and JR Gong and Nas put on a damn good show! Luckily they both performed tracks from their respective catalogues.
not sure how everyone is ‘bored’ with this album so quickly. I haven’t stopped listening to it since the day it came out. Leaders, Frieds, Patience, & Despair are my top 4 tracks.
If you don’t like reggae then I can see why you wouldn’t like the album, but anyone who is a fan of both these guys I don’t see how you can think this is only a 3.5.
Yet Cudi gets a 4 here… I liked the Cudi album, but it’s nowhere near as good as DR.
Wow… I really would like to know if y’all are listening to the same albim that I purchased. Damian and Nas blend beautifully on this…And nas verses are on point on each track. And damn kills this…Y’all have to be youngins who think lil Wayne and gucci man r the best it gets…lol Album is innovative and thought provoking…. its not reggae. ..not rap… but good quality music.. plain and simple. Anything less than a 4 rating is laughable…. terrible round table!!!
WORD went to the UCLA Reggaefest yesterday and JR Gong and Nas put on a damn good show! Luckily they both performed tracks from their respective catalogues.
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Was supposed to go to that show too, but it was sold out by the time I ended up heading out to Westwood. All of the people I knew who went had the same opinion… Damien Marley rocked the show, and they’ve seen better shit from Nas. Wasn’t anything to write home about.
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“I tried. Made it through approximately fives songs before I needed a nap. I wasn’t anticipating it, never bothered to listen to the leaks, none of that. I echo what was said in that this would’ve been fine as a Damian Marley album minus Nas. They included Nas…and it just sorta throws it off for me. It’s not bad, but nothing I feel like revisiting at the moment.”
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Basically, this sums up the project. The whole album has a Damien Marley vibe to it and adding Nas to some of these tracks just didn’t work out as well as I was hoping it would. 3.5 cigs may be too generous for this album, all things considered. I mean this was supposed to be a concept album wasn’t it? Where the fuck was was the concept? I didn’t even realize that it was supposed to be about Africa until reading it here.
If this album was worthy of 5 cigs, as so many of you have adamantly suggested, then the TSS crew would already be working for The Source and we’d be checking some other sites for quality reviews.
It’s more of a case of forcing an inorganic subject matter out of a project that didn’t need it. You can’t just say “I’m going to make an album about Africa” and just start recording…just like you can’t wake up one morning and say “I’m going to Africa” and book a flight to “Africa.”
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*COUGH* DAVE CHAPPELLE *COUGH*
*Scrolls up and reads all comments* Oh and uh… What the hell, you guys? Nas like invented rapping, dude. You guys probably only listen to albums on blah-blah-blah… I would finish the rest of my unnecessary complaint so that I could fit in, but I have a penchant for being a little too grammatically sound. AllHipHop doesn’t even let me comment anymore.
One for this to be a group review-all of your opinions are pretty much the same. Not much for a diversity of thoughts…..
And this comment “The whole album sounds like a World Hunger commercial truthfully” Wow..wow mmmmhh this is on some borderline ignorance. Then someone asked why is an African Hiphop artist is on this cd?…nuff said.
I would take this review more seriously if you all took this review more seriously yourselves. It’s like a “chat room” of scattered points that lack a solid foundation. I mean you need to really explain and critically assess the cd. For instance one of you had the nerve to bring up the Blue Print 3 in review of a collaboration cd with Nas & Damien WTF?! Jay-z can’t be left out huh? I would rather had it compared to other collab-cds in which you thought the artists did a “better” job etc..
However I guess if this is suppose to be fun laid back “we got jokes” in line of a comic vein review then I guess its ok it’ll pass.
This album is more raw and truthful than anything that has come out of hip hop music in years. And, if you “don’t like reggae…at all” then you should probably not bother checking for an album made by Bob Marley’s son in the first place. The “target audience” was conscious people who want this world to be a better place to live in. This website gave this album a lower rating than Kid Cudi’s album, therefore this website is a part of the problem, not the solution, musically and socially. This roundtable review is one of the most ingnorant, groupthink poisoned things I have ever read. Actually LISTEN to the album and try again. Tighten up. Seriously.
Nas is my favorite rapper ever… and I agree with the 3.5 here.. I dont think that Nas messed up the album, but I think he should just stick to his solo shit (he is working on a solo album now, btw). I hope he goes hard on this album like he did in his second verse on “Strong Will Continue”. As We Enter, Tribes at War, Friends, Land of Promise, In his own Words, and Patience are my favs.. Other than that this album is kinda blehhh… Im hoping the album will grow on me some more.
Ive been reading most of the reviews you guys posted…seems like ya’ll would say Drake’s album was better!!!
This album is niiiice…it was needed for summer.
Shout to Damian Marley for sampling Friends from an Angolan artist (RIP David Ze)
Great album!!!