There’s a big difference between just cause and flat out unfairness. Unfortunately James Johnson had to find that out the hard way last night as the Bulls fell to The Cavs in Game two. But there’s something about LeBron’s latest that doesn’t click for me. You don’t dunk on cats like that without a reason. James Johnson is just another unassuming NBA rookie working hard for his salary.
So why OD on him?
Perhaps he was truly saving that aerial assault for Joakim Noah as he had some choice words about Cleveland. Either that or I’m reading way too far into this non-controversy as Cleveland probably is just that unappealing. I’ll just chalk it up to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
With that said, I’d LOVE to see Noah do another nervous dribble-filled coast to coast dunk starring LeBron. The likelihood for a repeat performance is slim to none as Lebron, unlike Pierce, doesn’t have a stride reminiscent of Robert “Tractor” Traylor. Anyway it’d be downright hilarious to see the master of the chase down get dusted by a gangly 7 footer in the open court.
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Forget going for the block, Johnson should have taken a flagrant right there. Just push his ass out of the air.
^^^Dude LeBron is 250+ this dude is barely pushing 180 there is no way he could push him out the air
NEVER try to jump with LeBron. Case and point
For the record…you either foul Lebron hard or get the fuck out of his way.
Either way, it’s a bucket, a foul, or both.
So sad… So hilariously sad.
James Johnson got Amber Rose’d.
^ ummm James Johnson is like 230-240.
And Noah actually did dunk on Lebron last night in the 2nd half.
I’m getting tired of Lebron/Cleveland to be honest and it has nothing to do with the fact they’re up 2-0 on my Bulls because I expected my squad to lose the series.
However, Lebron and the Cavs are front-runners. They woof it up and dance/clown when they’re up, when they’re down or it’s close though they act like bitches and whine. They’re mad arrogant/cocky, too much for my liking considering they haven’t won shit yet. Yea Lebron, you’re in year 7 and still no ring. King my ass. Dude is just way too cocky for a guy that’s not winning shit and that cockiness has residually rubbed off on scrubs like Mo Williams etc…like these bums wouldn’t be shit without James and James still ain’t a winner so all need to chill out.
Lol @ the city of cleveland being salty cause Noah spoke the truth about that lame ass city.
I’m out! Lol
you either foul Lebron hard or get the fuck out of his way.
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I don’t understand why when dudes do foul him, they give him these lil soft bumps and tugs on the arms. You know this dude is not a great free throw shooter, pound the cat from the side and put him to the line. Get someone 3rd string big man in there just to put a REAL body on Bron. OR as previously mentioned, GET OUT THE WAY!
@S.Cadet
Why the Celtics gotta get thrown under the bus fam? lol. My dudes got it hard enough as is. Im watching ESPN first take and them dudes looked like they were bout to come to fist, arguing about the game last night.
Everyone I know that’s been to Cleveland says it’s dirty, terrible or some combination of the two.
@ El
Noah was hilarious at last night’s press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bObGK0DxqdI
He can be quite irritating at times but he’s been on a roll ever since he started hiking on Cleveland.
Until a couple minutes into the fourth quarter, I was convinced that Cleveland was going to let one slip away. Lebron put his cape on towards the end though. Still, it’s not looking promising for the Cavs stealing one in Chicago.
Let LeBron have his fun. The first round of the Eastern Conference is so goddamn boring that there needs to be SOME form of excitement. And the fact that a rookie is guarding LeBron in the 1st quarter should just tell you that the Bulls really have no business being in any playoffs and are lucky to be in the East.
@ S. cadet: Yea I saw that Noah post-game show, shit was hilarious. Dude is an interesting characther, I’ve been watching the Bulls all season (duh) so I’ve seen a lot of his interviews and he’s a funny dude. He also came to ball the fuck out last night so he backed up his talk from Sunday.
I was laughing hard from this post-game quote he had;
‘’You think Cleveland’s cool? I never heard anybody say, ‘I’m going to Cleveland on vacation.’ What’s so good about Cleveland?’’
I gotta agree withh EL Ro. Something just bugs me about LeBron. Why are people so scared to at this guy. I mean I’ve seen ppl (Matt Barnes) basically fucking Kobe on the court. Your better than that ©Mark Jackson
Noah is a funny ass dood. I like that honesty, too much PC shit with these players now
Noah is hilarious. My favorite Bull. And he backs his talk up.
Oh, and he dunked on LeBron last night, but no one talks about that shit. I ain’t salty, I’m just saying…
And the fact that a rookie is guarding LeBron in the 1st quarter should just tell you that the Bulls really have no business being in any playoffs and are lucky to be in the East.
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I won’t argue that our bench sucks. Brad Miller/Flip Murray get the main minutes with leftovers for Hakim Warrick/James Johnson/Pargo. Not exactly rolling in talent admittedly.
However, this team was rolling to 45-48 win season and a likely 5-6 seed before they got crushed by injuries for the months of February/March.
They don’t have depth. Or a 2nd scoring option to take the load off Rose. And they’re still playing Cleveland tougher than Cleveland probably imagined. Chicago is gonna be a problem next year.
Nobody on the Bulls should be allowed to wear Jordans.
*spits*
*walks away*
Oh, and he dunked on LeBron last night, but no one talks about that shit. I ain’t salty, I’m just saying…
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Noah fucking hammered on Lebron. I think David Stern had all copies of that tape confiscated and destroyed though on some Nike shit lol.
@ Cell Block Kid
I’m just saying if you let Joakim Noah, or any center for that matter, do that to you in the playoffs then that can’t be forgotten. It should be a cautionary tale for these youngins to do their suicide drills or else they’ll end up like Pierce haha. He redeemed himself somewhat with the infamous “C’mon Chris!!” dunk but I still can’t let that Noah play slide. In the end it’s all jokes w/ no malice intended good sir.
R.I.P. GIFTED UNLIMITED
@El Rosado.. while i dont like how lebron acts his team has earned the right to dance, but they not anymore. they just getting it done. There hasnt been a single point in any of these two fourth quarters where it even looked like the bulls were going to win. Lebron is too good. its a shame people hate on him for acting like a 24 or 25 year old. he may be 7 years with no ring but he had mo williams as his best other player. if they dont win this year maybe people can start talking about how he probably isnt the best ever…. and as far as lebron getting dunked on..kinda it was more the other dude on cleveland. im sorry though id take lebron to start a franchise with over any other player. period. if you disagree you a hater or you dont know basketball. you dont have to like him, but if you dont see the fact that he could possibly be the best ever.. you blind.
I co-sign Amp & El’s 1st comment times 1000
It should be a cautionary tale for these youngins to do their suicide drills
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haha.
LOL@ The Noah press conference
I’ll say this much. The Bulls have been good at making this and last years first rounds VERY interesting. If we can get HALF of the entertainment that we got out of the Celtics/Bulls 1st round series, I would be completely satisfied within the round.
They have not earned the right to dance around & yeah the Bulls hung around til about the 3-5 minute mark. Jamario Moon & his 3′s were the difference tonight.
Lebron…best ever?
So kids buy Jordans but not brush up on the history?
id take lebron to start a franchise with over any other player. period. if you disagree you a hater or you dont know basketball. you dont have to like him, but if you dont see the fact that he could possibly be the best ever.. you blind.
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I think the very fact that he’s as good as he is and hasn’t even reached his peak, for some strange reason, it irritates some folk.
Best record in the NBA = Right to act like it. Especially when everyone is in their 20′s thats dancing. If you were in the NBA and winning all the time, no excuse me, shitting on everyone all the time, you wouldnt try to have fun out there? Im happy that these youngins enjoy the game they play and arent taking it for granted.
@Amp.. he only 25. Kobe and jordan didnt reach their respective peaks until the 27-29 year old range. Kobe wasnt the assassin he is today until like two years ago. Its not how long you’ve been in the league its a maturity thing. that comes with age.
this all you need. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCXjXkbCF9Y
btw lebron has too much entitlement for a dude who has yet to win a chip. we get it, he’s incredible, but anyone who talks in 3rd person calling himself “king” is on the high horse.
win a couple rings, talk yo ish.
how bout one?
@ panda:
1). It amazes me that every person critiquing Lebron is termed a “hater,” it reeks of groupthink, it’s like folks can’t have independent thoughts anymore.
2). That said, it’s not about “acting his age” it’s about decorum and being a front-runner. Dude/Cleveland is quick to woof it up and clown and dance and all that nonsense when they’re up, when they’re down all they do is whine/complain when they lose and act like sore losers ( see Orlando, ECF 2009). I just am not a fan of players with an arrogance/sense of entitlement to them when they still haven’t won SHIT. The way Lebron acts you’d think he was going for ring #8. All I know is he has less rings at a higher level of hoops than Noah.
3). Umm, slowdown partner, whether or not Lebron does (or doesn’t) win this year won’t determine his spot as the best ever. I don’t care how nice his stats are, Lebron needs 5 rings before he can even be in the convo for G.O.A.T.
4) Lebron got dunked on. Period. It’s ok, it happens to anyone that has played hoops long enough.
5). All that said, who wouldn’t want to build a team around Lebron? Did I ever say anything of that sort? He does have a chance to be G.O.A.T. but a ring this year won’t be enough. All I said was I’m tired of how he and his team act considering they ain’t won shit. I like to see a little more humility from guys that haven’t won anything in this league yet. You’re just making general attacks/blanket statements (e.g. “blind hater”) about shit because you’re defensive over am critiques about Lebron. Last I checked, it wasn’t illegal to remain on his nuts 24/7.
4)
i know Im mad cuz im 24 and wondering why ronald reagan didnt create me in a lab in the 80′s, why’d it have to be lebron?
*illegal to NOT remain on his nuts 24/7
all i said was people hate on dude cuz he good. Jordan was THE BIGGEST DOUCHEBAG EVER. far worse than lebron. lebron a kid. you gonna hate on him for that? And as far as best ever. Sayin you need to win rings to be considered is downright RETARDED. you win rings because of GM’s and owners. if rings was the case robert horry would be considered one of the best ever. you cant take away from a player because his GM is too stupid to put the right players around him (see Iverson, Allen).
Fuck the Cavs! I’m cheering for my dude Brandon Jennings & the Bucks, FEAR THE DEER!!! LOL
he was dunked on by gibson last night. not noah. he was behind noah and flew by him trying to get a swat. gibson he went straight up with him and got dunked on. getting dunked on means you are in between player and basket when it happens.
@ MZ: Moon absolutely killed my squad. His 4 made 3′s were the difference.
@ OU: co-sign
And what is the purpose of hating on LeBrons GAME because of who he is as a person. The two are not interrelated. (see Jordan, Michael. Malone, Karl. Pippen, Scottie. Rodman, Dennis, Etc.)
And what team don’t complain. Noah is bitching about cleveland. what does that even have to do with the series. you want to talk about decorum. you dont step into someones house and talk shit about it. ever. Noah is just salty, knows he and his team cant make up for it on the court, so he waits until hes off of it to talk trash. wick wick WACK
@ panda: again, with the “hating” lmao. Lord forbid anyone critique James. Jeezus Christ some of the Lebron stans are worst than Palin-teabagger stans.
I have no problem with how good of a player he is, he’s fucking amazing. Again, I’ll repeat s-l-o-w-l-y so you understand. I don’t like his sense of entitlement and arrogance considering he hasn’t won shit yet. There’s way too much hype/over saturation and dick riding of Lebron when he hasn’t won anything yet. That is all. I’m not saying he sucks, but he does have a demeanor that’s hard to like, we watched him woof it up last season and mock teams than when ORL
knocked them out he stormed off the court on some bitch shit and through a hissy fit. Lost respect for him there.
And yes, rings matter when trying to seperate all-time great players and rank them amongst each other. Lebron needs 5 to be in the convo – all the great greats have at least 3 and the upper-crust 4-5-6 or more. If Lebron doesn’t win at least 3 he didn’t deliver on the hype. Just
my .02 cents
1) John Stockton, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash all dont have rings. At least 4 or 5 of those are better than a lot of the “great-greats”.
2) Hating is when you dont like someone because of how they act, critique would be saying he doesnt have a consistent jumpshot. I dont like the way lebron acts but i dont hate on him for it and cry about how i dont like what he does.
3)The Orlando thing, I couldnt care less about that. He was blown. He thought they were going to win. You cant blame him for caring so much about losing that he wanted to get the hell out of there.
4)Hater. <<<< lol's im so funny. But seriously. I have to make special emphasis on point number 1. Rings dont matter when it comes to best at basketball individually.
And what is the purpose of hating on LeBrons GAME because of who he is as a person
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Is there something in your water impacting your brains ability to read and comprehend words? I never once said anything about his ability as a basketball player. He’s awesome. But his on-court demeanor sucks dick.
Point-blank.
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Noah is bitching about cleveland. what does that even have to do with the series. you want to talk about decorum.
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Ummmmm, the media was the one that started that whole ordeal by ASKING nOAH for his thoughts about Cleveland, and when he gave an honest response they made it a major story because Cleveland always has and always will have an inferiority complex.
There’s a reason they call that city “the mistake by the lake.”
http://us.mobile.reuters.com/mobile/m/AnyArticle/p.rdt?URL=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61H5WN20100218
and that cockiness has residually rubbed off on scrubs like Mo Williams etc…like these bums wouldn’t be shit without James and James still ain’t a winner so all need to chill out.
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and to this, we close our books and say, “AMEN!”
If you were in the NBA and winning all the time, no excuse me, shitting on everyone all the time, you wouldnt try to have fun out there?
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RESPECT doesn’t care how talented you are.
That’s how you get bridged and injured ala McHale/Rambis
1) John Stockton, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash all dont have rings. At least 4 or 5 of those are better than a lot of the “great-greats”.
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Ummmm, none of those dudes would be considered among the top-12 in the NBA all-time (which is theoretically where Lebron is heading) and wouldn’t sniff the top-5 (which is where Lebron will likely end up if he ever accumulates enough jewelery.
Top-12 (no particular order) MJ, Magic, Russel, Bird, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, West, Kobe, Shaq, Olajuwon, Oscar Robertson
And what does the top-12 all have in common? Rings. Every single one of them has won, and the true greats have won 3 or more. Lebron still has a ways to go before he gets in that all-time great. There’s a difference between being a great HOF player (like the guys you listed) and an all-time great legend which is what I presume Lebron seeks to become. If his career ends on the AI/Stockton/Ewing plane than he failed.
we watched him woof it up last season and mock teams than when ORL
knocked them out he stormed off the court on some bitch shit and through a hissy fit. Lost respect for him there.
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Telling his Mom to “Sit yo ass down” was funny, but mad suspect for me… but I digress.
He’s an incredible talent. A prototype to some new kind of hybrid athlete…but he hasn’t won shit.
Perhaps he could take some of the advice directed towards his moms.
1) John Stockton, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash all dont have rings. At least 4 or 5 of those are better than a lot of the “great-greats”.
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1) Magic 2) Tim Duncan 3) Hakeem Olajuwon 4) Bird 5) MJ 6) Isiah Thomas 7) I’ll give you AI
I dont like the way lebron acts but i dont hate on him for it and cry about how i dont like what he does.
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Not crying just pointing out the fact that he’s the worst kind of competitor – he’ll mock you and taunt when he’s winning and act like a sore loser when he isn’t. I don’t care if we’re playing basketball or dominoes, those types of folks that front-run like that irk me.
@ complex: I think AI is one of the top “little guys” ever and an incredible talent with more heart and guts than 99.9% of the guys to ever play – but I can’t put him in my top-10 or 15. It’s a debate for another day but I just had this convo like a week ago with someone. Top 20-25 sounds more right to me. I have to weigh championships when seperating elite guys, just my perspective that it means more if you were a great player that won a title or titles which is why my personal top-12 (really 15-18) has all guys with rings.
Im sorry. the olden days were good and all. but times are different. players are bigger faster and stronger. wilt would be just another 7 footer and russell would be an undersized center. watching them play is like watching games in slow mo now. and john stockton is top 10 of all time. best point gaurd ever. just ask your boy magic who you put up there. jerry west is a joke on that list. boy would be alright right now cept for the fact he couldnt run with this league. and again you are taking away from him for the way he acts not plays. if this was the case jordan should not be on any list. and iverson is the only player in league history to finish a season in the top 5 in points, assists, and steals. he a definite lock for top 15 player of all time. you are basing your definition of player off team achievements which is faulty logic. insult my intelligence all you want. at least i know the difference and have the objectivity to not just accept standard lists created by other people who cant tell the difference between team and individual accomplishments.
@OED close our books and say AMEN?? why you reading out of a book, i thought we were producing our own thoughts here and not spitting out “facts” created by others.
I should’ve grabbed some popcorn for this exchange.
@ El
I’m glad Newark and Jersey City aren’t big enough to be on that list. They’d easily break top 10 if more people lived in each city. Then again Buffalo made the cut and it’s about the same size as Newark and Jersey City population wise.
@S.Cadet, im sure you still got time. My interest has only begun to get piqued with this cool, calculated, civilized discussion.
@ pandas: Wilt would still get 25 and 10. Dude was legit 7ft 270 and a great athlete. Maybe it’s not 35 and 25 but it’s still good.
Russel would probably be a PF in this day and age and get 15-12-3 blocks. Also, his basketball intelligence was off the charts so he could adjust to any era.
Stockton was not top-10. Top-20 sure. Players tend to overrated their peers post-retirement….I recently listened to McHale make it seem like Bird/Magic were dropping triple-doubles everytime they stepped on the court.
If Steve Nash could run (and thrive) in this league so could Jerry West. He was hitting 30 foot shots on the regular before the 3-pt line came around. Maybe he wouldn’t be a 2-guard, but if Nash could play point guard for 15 years so could West.
I’m not defining players on solely team accomplishments…however I do feel team accomplishments do carry some weight when trying to distinguish between all-time greats – otherwise you’re
just looking at individual stats and I could have swore this was a team game and not a solo sport like tennis or golf…that’s why you can’t just look at individual stats…shit statiscally Karl Malone has had a Better
career than Duncan but do you know anyone that would take Malone over TD? Exactly. You want to be about the individual stats to determine greatness then that’s
fine but there’s a reason why folks remember MJ/Magic/Bird/Zeke Thomas more and hold them in high regard even though Stockton has more assists and Malone has more points/rebounds and Nique was a
great dunker/scorer and the reason is because all those dudes won titles for their team in what is a team sport. Lebron is a great individual player, but his legacy will not be determined until we see how many rings he gets, otherwise he’ll be a great individual with pretty stats but no rings.
Lol, Bron brings people out the woodwork to comment.
Yeah I didn’t expect cats to go off like this when I wrote the post last night haha.
Im comparing basketball PLAYERS not teams. until you realize this point, like lady gaga with the phone up there your argument is invalid. These people who are considering individual players who you admit arent quite as good, better because of rings are talking out of their ass. This is a team game. Thats why every single person on the team gets a ring. But im comparing individuals not teams. And no, jerry west is not as good as steve nash, and yes malone is better than duncan. duncan would not have won a single title playing in jordans era. Hakeem (FAR more talented than both) only won cuz Jordan took a break.
Lol, Bron brings people out the woodwork to comment.
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Haha it’s not like I’m some lurker/first time poster, I been around these parts a few years now lol.
I just am wary of the hype and people that are quick to crown him or say he’s G.O.A.T. if he wins this year. He’s obviously the best in the league and a once in a lifetime talent but I can’t co-sign the hype until he delivers and proves he can win titles.
OED close our books and say AMEN?? why you reading out of a book, i thought we were producing our own thoughts here and not spitting out “facts” created by others.
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That’s a church reference, Money.
@ DjLilBigYungMC (a.k.a. pandasneedtivo2)
No need for a book to state MY opinion, Sir. I entered the convo late and co-signed a point.
The “book” referred to was “The Good Book”.
I will not change your opinions. You are unlikely to sway mine.
Put the uzi down, Homey.
@OED so was my comment. its a play on the fact that not only are you co signing el rosado but also using a reference in which people also co sign a book of “facts” not researched by themselves, money.
@ Panda: Truly great players make for great teams that win titles. Nobody is comparing teams, merely saying a great player makes his team better and the real greats win titles. Taking into account team success is useful in assessing players, otherwise people would think TMAC is a top-20 guy because his stats were nice. As for the West piece, agree to disagree, but in terms of athleticism he’s no different than Nash so if Nash could play well so could West, especially with the rule changes (3 pt line, no handcheck/physical play on perimeter, you can play zone to hide defenders).
As for Malone/TD one guy went 0-3 in the Finals and the other is 4-4. On the individual tip TD is a way better defender and is clutch…Malone has a rep for choking in the clutch. I’ve watched them both for a long time. I’d take TD in a heartbeat. What good is Malones 25 and 10 when he was gonna suck in the clutch when you need stars the most?
Wait a minute, did fam say rings don’t determine who the best is? What is this “Epic Moments in Dick Riding Lebron?” I mean if you’re on somebody’s nuts because they’re great at what they do…cool. Championships are not the sole factor in determining a player’s greatness, but we’re talking about the “Greatest of All” not an individual. Where is BoondocksBootleg when you need them?
I dont think its malone chokes as much as jordan was money. and im saying not all basketball players have to make people around them better. yes to win you do, but again im talking about talent. either way lebron does make the people around him significantly better. tmac is a good example although his inability to stay healthy costs him. when he was healthy he was one of the best in the L. didnt make people around him better but that didnt take away from his talent.
@Greek. ummm late on the convo. that comment if any dick riding is going on is made because i feel Iverson gets madly slept on for having the 3 shittiest GM’s of his time. but an even better question is how does a team achievement equate to individual talent? now im going to get back to arguing with someone who has enough intelligence to keep this convo on the right track. fool.
but also using a reference in which people also co sign a book of “facts” not researched by themselves, money.
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Is Mo Williams, Varajao, delonte Wests’, etc “status” being elevated by their team situation and affiliation w/ LBJ a disputable fact, Panda???
If it is, I’ll retract my “AMEN”, but it isn’t, so I won’t.
and that cockiness has residually rubbed off on scrubs like Mo Williams etc…like these bums wouldn’t be shit without James and James still ain’t a winner so all need to chill out.
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and to this, we close our books and say, “AMEN!”
Both Mo and Delonte (DMV stand up) actually put up better numbers on the Bucks and Celtics respectively than they do now. AMEN retracted. Apology accepted. Know what you are righteously backing before you back it.
Come on.. i know yall got more to throw my way
@ pandas: My reference for Malone being anti-clutch wasn’t really in relation to MJ emasculating him in 2 straight Finals. He already had that rep prior, I know way more about Utah than I care to because I have an older cousin that migrated to SLC from Puerto-Rico in the late 70′s and he’s been a season ticket holder since 84. He always used to tell me that Malone was ridiculously overrated and that what we didn’t see (remember this is pre league- pass/Utah wasn’t a squad that was nationally televised often until the mid-90s) was that more often than not Malone would put up big numbers for 3 quarters but if the game was close in the 4th he went AWOL. He’d shoot jumpers instead of posting-up, for fear of drawing contact and shooting FTs in the clutch because he knew he couldn’t hit them. He deferred to Stockton and let Stockton score the big points. If it was a close game and Malone had 25 chances are high 23 came in the first 3 quarters and Malone didn’t do shit in the 4th. Again, this is coming first-hand accoun from my season-ticket holding cousin. He ALWAYS used to harp about Malone being scared to shoot and bricking when he did and making dumb plays like bad turnovers and fouls when the game was tight. Some dudes just don’t have the DNA to handle pressure, Malone was one of those guys.
Dude, I LIVE in Boston and Delonte was forced to be a scorer on a team that went NOWHERE. Not taking away from his talent. I watched him at St Joes hold #1 down on a guard-oriented team. He’s got game….but in the L he’s a role player… Role players shouldn’t be showing up teams b/c LBJ is affording them that opportunity.
Mo Williams was an all-star for one of the greatest teams ever assembled. The Milwaukee Bucks of a few years back. Trust me, he’s not even as good as Ricky Pierce was. he was supposed to be the x-factor in a championship LAST YEAR and what happened??? Orlando, Shaq, Moon, Jamison…. He’s a role player….Not an x-factor.
Your “knowledge” supersedes the allowances for others opinions who amy (or may not) have logged as many hrs playing, watching, and dissecting the sport.
oh yeah, “AMEN!”
@DjLilBigYungMC (a.k.a. pandasneedtivo2)
That is what boggles me about your commenting. You blame Allen Iverson’s GM’s for not winning championships. Would Iverson agree this is the reason he never won? So if Lebron never wins one, will it be the GM’s fault? Will he go down in history as the “greatest to ever play who couldn’t win a championship?”
You e-thug and insult a stranger on a blog? I didn’t outline your statement or even comment directly at you.
Your whole logic and participation is suspect.
Fair enough. Timmy D is a notoriously bad free throw shooter as well. But he does come through in the clutch as often as he doesnt.
Wait a minute, did fam say rings don’t determine who the best is?
I didn’t outline your statement or even comment directly at you.
So you are saying its better to indirectly insult someone than approach them like a man and tell them how you feel? And no, LeBron’s GM brought him Williams and Jamison so at least he is moving in the right direction more often than not.
Dudes going in. I needed this. Cadet or whomever please keep the NBA blogs in constant ro’ for these here playoffs.
@OED you co-signed a statement that said they were nothing without LeBron, i said that was not true. Where is this wrong on my part? Especially when 17 and 5 a game is definitely not nothing (Mo Williams).
And don’t discredit THE PLAYER THEMSELVES when speaking on championships. Those players mentioned by Ros were also clutch (not that Lebron or AI isn’t)….but don’t just toss their inability to win the trophy at the feet of their GM.
Example: Carmelo Anthony.
Pick an era… Carmelo is as good as the best player. Scores big in big games… but until he and his teammates get their heads out of their cheeks at crunch time…. no rings…. and yes, a CHAMPION can will idiocy and dumb antics out of teammates when it matters most, especially by establishing winning environments.
@ Panda:
Mo is scoring the same or better in Cleveland than he ever did before and hitting a higher percentage of his shots, which is to be expected given that with Lebron drawing the D attention he gets more wide-open looks than ever before.
See for yourself; http://www.nba.com/playerfile/maurice_williams/career_stats.html
@ Panda
NOTHING in the sense that they don’t need to be doing the kid n play dance on the sidelines at the expense of an opponent in the 4th Q….
NOTHING…OK, excuse the “nothing”. This is a hip-hop site. I occasionally speak in fluent Special Ed hyperbole…. but as it relates to being a dominant player, and not just a role player, yeah, “nothing”.
BTW I’m loving this exchange amongst all of us can we get to 100 posts on this mufugga? Lol.
again im talking about skill, talent, ability. not championships. as much as yall wish it wasnt, in a team game talent is quite often trumped by teamwork.
We shouldn’t compare players of today vs those of the past, they were great in their own right for beating the best the league had to give them at the time. It’s not fair to hold that against them, or to criticize them for being lesser athletes then the players of today. Greatness is subjective, guys like Wilt and Russell were dominant players of that era, and that’s how they should be seen
12 greatest
1)MJ 2)Magic 3)Russell 4)Wilt 5)Kareem 6)Bird 7)Shaq 8)Duncan 9)Big 0 10)Dr. J 11)Kobe 12)The Logo
(6 Lakers and 2 Celtics… speaks on Russell’s greatness, think I just might bump him up from 5 to 3)
@rosado his last two years on the bucks he shot a higher percentage, had more steals, assists, and ppg than his first two years with cavs
100 posts gonna be hard unless someone else come in here talkin ish one way or another
@panda: Lebron is one of the most skilled players ever. Won’t argue that. But that doesn’t necessarilly means he is or will be the greatest when it’s all set and done. TMAC and Penny had rare skillsets too and should have been all-time greats, but we saw how that ended. Only
time will tell, all we can do now is watch. You want to argue Lebron has one of the greatest skillsets ever, I can agree to that, but a great skillset doesn’t automatically translate to being an all-time great player (again, see Tmac/Penny) but we shall see what happens.
Obviously you are right on that. My thing is, while Im not crowning him yet, he is already up there and in my mind only needs 4 or 5 more years of this 30 7 and 7 with a steal and a block shooting around 50 percent to be the best ever, chip or no chip. And as far as Tmac/Penny, i hope he doesnt get hurt but he also isnt built like them. They were skinny for their size…Lebron.. not so much. but it does only take one fluke landing.
Ha dudes going in on this post! I’m loving it! I will add that LeBron is a great player but way to overhyped if it wasn’t for Melo not being that clutch you could argue that he is a better player then Bron Bron!
eeeh. i love melo, but he doesnt do everything that lebron does. I used to say melo best pure scorer in the L though now its durant. And as far as clutch. statistically melo is one of the most clutch NBA players of all time. ill find the website real quick for you
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
i retract my all time statement. they only did it from ’03 on.
@DjLilBigYungMC (a.k.a. pandasneedtivo2)
My second comment was to let others know you can’t argue with someone who is insane. In my opinion, your logic is twisted when it comes to accomplishment in the sport of basketball. There is no sense in acknowledging/responding to your comments. I was encouraging others to ignore while not quoting you directly or mentioning your screen name. You obviously took it personal. I’ll leave it alone after this one though.
Somebody get this aggin DjLilBigYungMC some tissue and a band aid.
@ Pandas: RE: Mo Williams
Last season (1st in Cleveland) he set a career high in PPG. This year he’s averaging 1.5 less ppg but that’s expected with the additions of Shaq/Jamison. His FG% was higher in Milwaukee but his 3pt % and 3pt FG made have been way higher in both seasons in Cleveland than they were in Milwaukee, no doubt a by-product of having open shots created by the presence of Lebron. The difference in steals is miniscule. I’ll give you the assists, but with Lebron being the dude that initiates the offense, having great passing bigs like Shaq/Anderson, and other guys that can run PG like Parker/West, going from 6 APG to 4APG isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
I’m not feeling the cavs & their leader at the moment, since they’re handing a whooping to my boys, but LeBron is undoubtedly a legend in the making and he’s already an all-time great. Failing to acknowledge that is just ha…
Well, you know the rest.
Go Bulls!
you are being hypocritical. you are saying my judgement of a best player isnt good because it isnt yours. yet you claim thats what im doing. all im doing is saying what my analysis is based on. you however are attacking that because its different from your ideas. although i do appreciate your concern for my well being and i appreciate the tissue and band aid
Panda, trust me, I agree w/you as far as rings not being the end all be all, but in many circles that becomes the thing…and not just to us blogger types. Amongst the athletes themselves, the ‘ship is what matters at the end of the day.
You can’t blow me down w/ Halle, Alicia, Bey, and Vanessa Williams (throwback) and convince me that Marino was THE best QB ever. Dude could put the ball between an “o” on an “8″ from 40 yards away…but w/o the rings, cats like Montana, Aikman, and now even Brady eclipse Marino in conversation. To me it’s travesty, but as leaders of teams these transcendent players are supposed to will their way to titles, regardless of supporting casts.
*throws chair*
*correction
convince me that Marino WASNT the best QB ever
above post to the greek. yeah, rosado, i got to give you that, but people acting like Mo hasnt been doing this, he is the same player he has always been. @OED LOL my dude, I ALWAYS argue Marino is best ever. his best receiver was O.J. McDuffie, seriously, WTF.
in my mind only needs 4 or 5 more years of this 30 7 and 7 with a steal and a block shooting around 50 percent to be the best ever, chip or no chip.
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Ehhh, definitely gonna have to agree to disagree here. He can be an all-time great, but he needs rings plural before I can consider him the GOAT. But we are gonna definitely disagree on that end lol.
Aaaww shit. its on now. everyone knows throwing a chair incites violence.
*picks up D’s chair*
*sits it upright*
*sits down and girl watches for the remainder of the conversation*
I stopped reading when dude said LeBron was on track to be the greatest ever.
*turns on Carter III a.k.a. greatest-album-of-mankind’s-existence*
Kidzzzzz deeez dayzzzzz
yeah, i could tell early on that our difference in parameters for best player was not going to be resolved, but without “discussion” how would we ever learn the other side of the story.
I don’t know what site you are getting it from but Melo is no where near the top clutch players of all-time! Shit not even this era! Maybe there’s a slight chance regular season wise but definitely not in the playoffs right now where it really counts! I would know to because Melo is 1 of my favorite players in the L!
*throws chair*
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Whoa, am I at a hip-hop awards show now? Lol
@TC.. he isnt? statistically he is. Thats all that was said. Nobody is guaranteed rings, but if he keeps this up how you gonna keep rings away from dude? and if the kid comment was a joke cool, but i grew up watching 90′s basketball so based on the “eye test” LeBron looks like the most dominant player this side of Jordan.
“I stopped reading when dude said LeBron was on track to be the greatest ever.”
Lil nello, im telling you. click on the link. 82 games is a premier basketball stats website. Just look at the numbers. Percentage wise he is at the top. Playoffs and regular season.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
“I don’t know what site you are getting it from but Melo is no where near the top clutch players of all-time! Shit not even this era! Maybe there’s a slight chance regular season wise but definitely not in the playoffs right now where it really counts! I would know to because Melo is 1 of my favorite players in the L!”
I rest my case.
Psssh we pushed this shit over 100 lol….
Lil nello, im telling you. click on the link. 82 games is a premier basketball stats website. Just look at the numbers. Percentage wise he is at the top. Playoffs and regular season.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
Case re-opened. Evidence re-examined. Case dismissed.
@ Nello
NEVER did I argue Anthony was clutch. NOT ONCE.
I said he is as talented as any player of any era.
Clutch? Well, he got it done at ‘Cuse (unlike C Webb) and in the olympics, so I won’t say he’s not capable of being clutch….but no…he’s far from clutch in the NBA.
*resumes girl watching*
all we needed was for us to keep talking ish, forget a new person.
82 games is that shit…they breakdown basketball stats and create new stats in ways I didn’t know existed.
Game winning shots.
LeBron 17 of 50 34%
Vince 16 of 51 31%
Ray 15 of 39 38%
Kobe 14 of 56 25%
Melo 13 of 27 48%
Hmmm… men lie, women lie, and apparently numbers do too now. Sorry Hova
Andrew Toney… Just wanted to say that.
ROTFLOL@ TC and chairs flying and being repositioned
@Panda. Melo Definitely clutch. I say this all the time. Matter of fact if he wouldn’t have fouled out I have to believe that the series could be 2-0. But from the numbers of the link that you posted, this season hasn’t been added and I know Kobes numbers has to have increased by like 6. Melo a couple too.
yeah that was through feb of last year.
Andrew Bogut is taller than Andrew Toney.
Albert King was good, but he’s no Bernard.
Eddie Bird was no Larry…
And finally…Ron Artest vs Dennis Rodman for a rebound.
#Random
Clutch also means not committing a dumb foul to take yourself off the floor w/ plent…y of time on the clock. Jus’sayin
That wasnt a foul. Refs seemed out for him last night. Two of his joints were clearly calls that shouldnt be made. but i feel you. dont put yourself in that position. still doesnt take away from his “dagger” ability
Hundred and seventeen with no filler. damn. we got heated up in here. 200 anyone?
OED
The Nuggs are my niggs and their biggest achilles heel is that they are a bunch of hot heads who commit reckless moves that do more damage to themselves any of their opponents. Why they haven’t picked up Rasheed Wallace is beyond me. But Melo is still a clutch player nonetheless
The first couple of swipes weren’t…but that last was a reac around (not the good kind… ll) that impeded homeboy’s progress, which would have been cool if Melo was ahead of em on the court…and he wasn’t.
Denver, Denver, Denver…So good, so frustrating to watch at times.
@ pandas: 200? Lol that might be pushing it. It’s 4/20 pretty soon dudes are gonna be getting off work (ahem) and partaking in festivities lol.
LOL @ Rasheed… Eff it, let’s give em S Jax and Artest too…. That’d be INSANE to watch (literally/figuratively).
Where’s my PS3… I’m about to construct a team and make this happen.
@ OED/Cell: Give em back AI too, lol.
@rosado yeah i know. i got an two hours until my son mothers comes to get him. then im out with the rest of the world. But smoking and talking basketball… only thing better is smoking and talking soccer. im sure if i get blazed i can come up with a way to argue kwame brown is the best asset ever
Where’s my PS3… I’m about to construct a team and make this happen
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ROTFL
Can’t wait for this Celics/Heat battle tonight. You know its gonna be some ish. C’s!
actually…. brown and profit for butler and atkins… brown, crittenton, and mckie for Gasol….hmmm thats pretty impressive caron and pau gasol.
@OED I wasn’t directing the Melo comment towards you & that is what I meant NBA wise he isn’t clutch! His percentage is only higher to because he has the least amount of attempts of all the players listed! Not to mention he wasn’t able to get the Nuggets out of the 1st round only until recently within the past year or two!
im sure if i get blazed i can come up with a way to argue kwame brown is the best asset ever
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lol, I’m with you though…I used to for some reason defend Brendan Haywood like he was family, I was convinced that if his squad featured him on offense he could average 18 and 12 hahaha.
@OED.. how does that make sense though? he has hit as many shots as the others but hasnt taken as many shots… that means he’d have to play worse than he has been on average to fall to their level
Laron Profit…wow haven’t heard that name in ages…I thought he could be another Doug Christie..:turns out he wasn’t even Pete Myers.
Yo i feel you, dont knock haywood. thats my dude right there. i think you put him on a crappy team and he is 20 10 and 2 all night. although that doesnt explain why he only did 10 10 and 2 with the wizards this year.
university of maryland right there. i got the college game so i could play as him. terrance morris too. and of course stevie franchise
@ Nello
Of course we’re talking regular season here. Melo and Bron are too young to have All-Time in the post. Maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong but last year was the 1st time LBJ hit a game winning shot in the post.
Terrance Morris…that’s another name lol…he shoulda been a player in the league I think he came in the wrong era the tail-end of the slowdown/halfcourt physical era where teams wanted big guys and before the smallball era where teams could be effective with undersized (slim 6’8-6’9) but athletic 4′s like Morris.
He wasn’t able to get the Nuggets out of the 1st round until recently within the past year or two!
Case closed whether you like it or not most of the all-time greats NOT great HOF players are defined by what they did in the playoffs! i.e. MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, Bird, etc.
yeah. also i think he looked better at maryland than he really was. i thought hed at least find a niche in the nba, a big man who can shoot. but oh well.
uh oh… bait… ill say this. i think we have learned today that all time great depends on what your emphasis is on. could be rings, could be playoff stats, could be all stats, or could just be the eye test. its all up to the person.
I weigh my greats by a combo of stats/competition in that era/playoff success (rings matter) and eye test. I think if you solely evaluate on one component as opposed to the whole body of work it’s flawed. Just my .02 cents
thats .04 cents so far. just my 2 cents
lol @ Nello
cool out. I wasn’t arguing that the regular season was more important than the post. I was saying that majority of their numbers are obviously gonna come from the regular season. And Melo not being able to get out of the 1st round is not a discredit to his ability as a clutch player but just not having a better team than the opponent. I mean back in 08 they played the LAKERS in the 1st round. Before that the SPURS. I mean these are champion caliber teams.
@ Panda
He hasn’t taken as many b/c they spend too many (should be victories) getting beat by the Clippers, Warriors, etc, instead of doing what they’re sposed to be doing. Kobe and ‘Nem are sitting on the bench watching Luke Walton in the 4th.
@ Lil’ Nello
Gotcha. I realized that just after I’d submitted the comment.
again how would that explain why kobe and them have more than melo?
kobe was drafted in 96 melo in 03. in fact all of them except lebron and melo were 96. 7 more years to take game winning shots
Damn Laron Profit and Terrance Williams in one post; if somebody brought up Lawerence Mouton I would have quit. lol
As far as the Cavs bench antics; it gets tired pretty quick because they like to dish but can not take. LeBron is a great player, but he battles with bouts of bitchassness. Joke Noah needs to concentrate on helping the Bulls not get swept; instead of talking junk about the Celtics. Hopefully tonight Sheed’s Robert Horry gene kicks in and he has a throwback game so we can hand the heat another beating…oh almost forgot Fuck Q Richardson; always talking about cats acting different in the streets. The only time his fist ever hit anyone in the head is when he used to pound his head after scoring a basket. He hasn’t done that in awhile cause the buster lost the ability to score.
Melo and them don’t GET TO the games that matter as often. Why? They implode every time to this point.
Melo’s clutch…Chauncey’s clutch… So why aren’t they winning more clutch games? According to the stats you give Melo the ball at the end and you win, right? That computation works until you realize they’re not there at the end as often.
WHEN Melo is there he comes through…. The WHEN is their problem. HIS team is inconsistent behind head-scratching plays. HE’S the leader. Right or wrong, he’s judged by that. If he gets in Player X’s face in game 54 of the reg season for taking an ill-advised shot, Player X doesn’t take that shot in Game 6 of the playoffs.
This, again, is how rings come into play.
The greats accept no bullshit from those around them in quest of their rings…
his is why I believe CLE WILL win it this year, but let’s not crown them yet.
@ Bigga. Terrance Morris, Byron Mouton
Last time I was here, it was at 40.
Left came back it was at 80.
Now it’s at 147???
Byron Mouton FTW LMAO
Where’s Moses Scurry to guide us through this when you need em?
Panda: No I was refering to Mouton from the Cuse another cat that was supposed to do well in the League and just couldn’t make it.
The greats accept no bullshit from those around them in quest of their rings…
his is why I believe CLE WILL win it this year, but let’s not crown them yet.
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I dont think that’s why CLE is this yrs favorite to win. Sometimes there seems to be an underlined lack of trust in the surrounding Cavs players. Maybe by Mike Brown maybe whomever. The game that the Cavs used to win last night is what made them lose last year. Too Bron dependent.
@ stay frosty my bad
I’m still salty that John Wallace didn’t pan out.
whats the record for posts here at tss?
Also it’s a damn shame Tim Thomas only played hard for about 50 games in his entire career. He should have been an all-star 5X over.
@ Bigga: don’t think I didn’t notice that “Joke Noah” comment…::TO Voice:: THAT’S MY CENTER lol.
Seriously though, you know your C’s could use Noah. Maybe then y’all would be able to grab rebounds and defend the post so that every athletic 4 in the league isn’t putting up 20 and 10 on you lol.
If (hypothetically) Gotty got like, I unno, a penny per comment from advertisers….man…G would have enough money for a coffee from Dunkin Donuts lol.
watch it buddy^
OED: Yeah until Carmelo becomes a leader they will not become a championship team. He has to pull JR Smith to the side when he starts to get out of control; he is such a talented offensive player when he is playing focused.
alright yall good talk. especially rosado and oed. 200 doesnt seem that far fetched. i leave yall with this. Kobe or MJ? Shaq or Akeem?
@ Bigga: don’t think I didn’t notice that “Joke Noah” comment…::TO Voice:: THAT’S MY CENTER lol.
Seriously though, you know your C’s could use Noah. Maybe then y’all would be able to grab rebounds and defend the post so that every athletic 4 in the league isn’t putting up 20 and 10 on you lol.
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You are right the Celtics do need an athletic, long 4 that can rebound and defend. And Noah is playing well; he just talks too much for my taste. I am looking at Amir Johnson for a free agent pick up; I don’t think the Raptors are going to sign him; he would fit the C’s needs nicely.
4:20pm is about to occur. hmmm.
@ pandas: good convo. I’m assuming you mean in their primes, so I’ll go MJ/Shaq.
@ Bigga: maaaaan all KG used to do and still does is yap…no different than Noah except KG is wearing Celtic green.
no different than Noah except KG is wearing Celtic green.
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You dont believe that. lol
@ cell: in terms of yapping yes what’s the difference between the 2 ? Seriously, they both talk and TALK all day, Noah is just a public enemy like Rodman hahaha.
no different than Noah except KG is wearing Celtic green.
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You dont believe that. lol
^^^^
Haha… It must be 4:20 in Chicago standard time
*drum roll*
Haha.. I know you were joking, Ros.. I had to chirp in from the gallery tho.
@ Biggga… Keep your fingers crossed tonight. I say they win with G Davis getting more PT. (I hope)
I dont think this thread can handle any more comments.lol
@ El Ro
Oh ok, I thought that you were saying that’s was no difference in them as players as a whole. Yeah they do pop a lot of ish. I immediately remember this post…
http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/04/kevin-garnett-is-a-douche
My girlfriend refers to Glen Davis as “the oaf” lmao.
El Ro I tried to post my reply to you like three times already and it has yet to post. I think it has something to do with the TSS link I was trying to refer to but here’s half of it:
“Oh ok, I thought that you were saying that’s was no difference in them as players as a whole. Yeah they do pop a lot of ish. I immediately remember this post ”
referring to the “KG is a douche” post from last year on this site when they were playing the bulls in the 1st round. The pic was epic though with KG screaming in Ben Gordons face lol
Haha cell I remember all that…KG is honestly insane though….he’s cranked to 100 all the time…he’s gonna be a crazy old man when he hits AARP age lol
lol @ he’s gonna be a crazy old man when he hits AARP age .
I just started reading the old thread and I was in opposition with you THEN. lol . TSS, where amazing happens.
OED: I’m not worried about playing with KG for 1 game. The Heat can only score if they create turnovers; as Game 1 showed as soon as the Celtics started to take care of the ball and made it a half court game, the rest of the Heat couldn’t score. Wade is going to get his points, what kills you is when Beasley goes off for 20 and 10 rebounds, then a chalmers will chip in 15, and so on.
Cell Block Kid:
Don’t worry about El Ro; his Bulls are about to take 4 L’s in a Ro!!!
LOL
KG is nuts; I remember a playoff series between the Wolves and the Spurs. I believe it was the game before the Spurs beat them in that series and it was a close game until the final 4 minutes. KG played his heart out but he didn’t have enough weapons to play with the Spurs. Duncan grabs a rebound and KG swooped in to tie him up. The refs called for a Jump Ball. KG goes nuts gets right in Tim Duncan’s face and starts to cuss him out for a good 45 seconds. You can see Duncan saying to KG Calm down its a jump ball. lol
Oh no doubt. Glad to see a fellow Celtic head in da house. Cause the green hate around here can get kinda outta hand
I remember that Styles P & Kevin Garenett commercial from years ago. “Every dunk is drastic, 1st to get drafted outta high school since Moses Malone”
Man Bigga, we better not get swept, we need to win at least one game…preferably game 3 since Thursday since I’ll be in attendance hahaha.
isn’t Wilt statistically the best player ever?
KG is a bitch. He only stands up to sorry ass role players and white centers. I’m from MN, I’ve seen it for 10 years
What does a role player have to do with a fight? Basketball talent and fighting are not synonymous
he’s a bully. He only picks fights with doods he knows aint gonna do shit back
CBK: Man that commerical was crazy!!! In hindsight how ironic. lol
El Ro: It is going to be tough on the Bulls; other than Rose they don’t have anyone who can create their own offense. Deng should be that guy but the injuries has slowed him down. Plus they don’t have any low post back to the basket scoring. Noah is getting his points from rebounds and facing up illgukas/shaq and driving past them. For them to win a game they will need Noah, Rose, Hinrich, and Deng to play well plus have someone like Miller and Murray have big games. I do think they found their PF in Gibson; if he ever gets a consistent back to the basket game the Bulls are a 2 guard away from making some real damage.
Calderon, Pryzbilla, Peeler, Rickert….
I guess I can go for that if there is a situation where he picks a fight with someone only to find out that they will do something and he backs down OR if someone starts with him and he doesn’t say anything back. I just watched video of him riffing with Lebron the last time they played ball. He was getting at him for his lack of free throws while LB was shooting em. KG is an equal opportunity ass hole.
DAMN! y’all still going? Y’all musta took off for 4:20 or something.
^ just celebrated on the minute (remember I’m in central time zone)
Lol yeah its about that time now my G’s. Peace and Love.Oh and C’s.
Ok what are we talking about again, I’m lost? Lol.
And since we’re this close, yall make sure we break 200. They never thought we could do it lol. ANYTHINGS POSSIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLEEEE!
Lmao @ cell channeling his inner KG.
@ Bigga: I think Gibson can be the 4 of the future too and if not he’s a hell of a “1st big
man off the bench” to have the next 3 seasons. One thing about the Bulls is they draft well, especially since Paxson took over in 2003 (Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Duhon 2nd rd, drafted LaMarcus Aldridge and traded him for Tyrus, Noah, Rose, Johnson and Gibson this year). That’s an impressive run of picks. They just never landed a franchise player until Rose.
Double take. 196 Comments. Wow.
I don’t know what I’m more impressed with.
Aldridge is nice.
The only thread on TSS I can ever remember having as many or more comments was the thread from election day 2008…pretty historic day and the thread was ablaze in comments…
4/20/10…. A day that shall live in infamy hahaha
I got y’all & yeah it’s been awhile since we’ve had one creep up this high.
MZ officially brings us to 200….damn….I feel like we made history and accomplished something…not quite sure what though lol. All I gotta say is it’s been a fun way to kill a slow workday hahaha. So many unresolved questions too…
Is this going to end up as the most-commented TSS post ever?
Would we get even more posts if it wasn’t 420?
Are the other less-commented posts jealous?
What are people saying to themselves when they see the number of comments next to the article?
How many people tried to read every post before quitting?
What were we talking about again?
Will the Bulls win game 3?
Is Pandas gonna do a double-take when he comes back mañana on post numbers?
Can the night crew take it to 300?
Does S. Cadet get a bonus?
Is a 200+ comment post about being dunked on the highlight of James Johnsons young career?
So many questions lol. I’m out of here y’all, been a good one, gonna go enjoy the night.
*cues up Ghostface Killah ‘We Made It’*
peace
Yo, exactly what happened in here? When I left we were having a lit5tle convo about Lebron’s sense of entitlement. I come back and there’s bullet holes in the walls and dead bodies strewn everywhere.
All you guys are geeks lol.
Labron aint all that…
*hides labron rookie cards*
I take an internet break for a few hours to come back to you all breaking 200 comments. Wow I’m quite proud of you guys in a geeky way. Cats came out the woodwork for this post and it wasn’t even about music. It’s kinda funny to see how one dunk by Lebron brought forth such discussion.
@ El
I don’t think I’ll get a bonus but the unexpected response, allegations, jokes and obscure basketball player references throughout the comments section were more than welcome haha.
I got tired of scrolling down in my bberry to read all this so I’m just giving my 2 cents. MJ is the greatest of all time and that’s bar none. If he didn’t take two years off to play triple-a ball the Bulls may have won 8 straight chips instead of back to back three peats. MJ kept more Hall of famers from winning a ring than anyone ever. Lebron is amazing and the best player in the league currently but he’s already lost a final so that excludes him from any GOAT convo just off that alone. He does not have that killer instinct that Mike and doesn’t impose his will the way Jordan did. And unlike Kobe, all 6 Bulls chips came against great teams, some of the best the respective franchises ever had. The Suns w Barkley, KJ, the Jazz with Malone and Stockton, the Lakers with Magic, Vlade, Worthy, Portland, Seattle. Lebron won’t win a ring until he bounces from Cleveland
Chicago will always own Cleveland, word to Craig Ehlo
Win a ring you bums
im very very late but –
im too young to see russell and chamberlain. but this copy n paste will do justice
Magic Johnson said, “There’s Michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us.” Larry Bird, following a playoff game where Jordan dropped 63 points on the Boston Celtics in just his second season, appraisal of the young player was: “God disguised as Michael Jordan.
i dont know if that is even relevant, but the greatest i’ve seen in my lifetime..i’m a kobe stan – but they dont ever say that about him ( or lebron for that matter…)
Getting back on topic lol… A friend of mine played with the Pistons a few years ago… The scouting report on Lebron: “If he gets his shoulders by you, either foul or get out of the way.”
Ridiculous
*sniff sniff* we broke 200. so proud.
Is this going to end up as the most-commented TSS post ever?
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Far from it, unless I’m mistaken. Some giveaway posts had a couple hundred, I believe