Comments on: Is Hip-Hop Finally Dead? http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died The Smoking Section Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:47:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Video: Pac Div “Whiplash” x “Young Black Male” « Slang Rap Democracy http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-879279 Video: Pac Div “Whiplash” x “Young Black Male” « Slang Rap Democracy Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:15:28 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-879279 [...] evidence why anyone saying Hip-Hop is kaput is legitimate jackass material. Pac Div drops a dual video for the buttery “Whiplash” [...] [...] evidence why anyone saying Hip-Hop is kaput is legitimate jackass material. Pac Div drops a dual video for the buttery “Whiplash” [...]

]]> By: FRANK http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-878027 FRANK Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:43:52 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-878027 Theres way too much intellectual posturing going on in this thread (and hip hop in general) Leave that shit alone, its about the music, you talk like you're getting paid by the word for your opinion, that shit is disgusting. In fact, over-intellectualising music at all is disgusting. You should go start up the hip hop version of Pitchfork so we can be sick all over your seasame street sneakers. We are in the 'Pre-The-State-Vs-Radric-Davis' part of history right now so all you little internet rap critics stfu untill that comes out alright Theres way too much intellectual posturing going on in this thread (and hip hop in general)

Leave that shit alone, its about the music, you talk like you’re getting paid by the word for your opinion, that shit is disgusting.

In fact, over-intellectualising music at all is disgusting.

You should go start up the hip hop version of Pitchfork so we can be sick all over your seasame street sneakers.

We are in the ‘Pre-The-State-Vs-Radric-Davis’ part of history right now so all you little internet rap critics stfu untill that comes out alright

]]> By: http://www.thehigherplane.net http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-876283 http://www.thehigherplane.net Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:22:38 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-876283 Well said AmpGeez. Hip hop is definitely not dead. Its just going through a stage of evolution. A separation of the real from the fake, of the talent from the clones, of the true artists from the wanna-be's. Its gonna take some time to see how this all plays out, but it will be for the better Well said AmpGeez. Hip hop is definitely not dead. Its just going through a stage of evolution. A separation of the real from the fake, of the talent from the clones, of the true artists from the wanna-be’s. Its gonna take some time to see how this all plays out, but it will be for the better

]]> By: Truth http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-875953 Truth Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:57:09 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-875953 Just like absolutely EVERY genre of music, Hip-Hop is falling hard to the music industry's equations. They were very economically viable for a while, but it's pretty easy to see that a tipping point isn't out of question due to blatant market saturation. I feel as though the Industry's next step is to usher in a new wave of bullshit country stars. Also, I personally don't believe that Hip-Hop could ever be considered pop music per se. Pop music to me is a rotation of many genres based on their popularity at the time. Music made to fit the popular mold at the time is then considered pop music (bastardized, but still). @EvanMCG .....not being on top will allow hip hop to grow and foster a stronger group of artists .....anyone who properly reads his article absolutely knows that he doesn’t think hip hop is dead at all ^On point, sir. What we need to decipher is true Hip-Hop from equation based popular Hip-Hop and eradicate it. Support mixtapes, underground artists and producers. Download as much as you can (with their consent). Share it with your friends, let Hip-Hop catch a fresh breath of air. When a friend of mine started arguing for the legitimacy of some of the artists out right now, I just shook my head and handed him a mixtape. The next day he thanked me, and I told him to go to our indie store and buy what he liked. Just like absolutely EVERY genre of music, Hip-Hop is falling hard to the music industry’s equations. They were very economically viable for a while, but it’s pretty easy to see that a tipping point isn’t out of question due to blatant market saturation. I feel as though the Industry’s next step is to usher in a new wave of bullshit country stars. Also, I personally don’t believe that Hip-Hop could ever be considered pop music per se. Pop music to me is a rotation of many genres based on their popularity at the time. Music made to fit the popular mold at the time is then considered pop music (bastardized, but still).

@EvanMCG
…..not being on top will allow hip hop to grow and foster a stronger group of artists
…..anyone who properly reads his article absolutely knows that he doesn’t think hip hop is dead at all
^On point, sir.

What we need to decipher is true Hip-Hop from equation based popular Hip-Hop and eradicate it.

Support mixtapes, underground artists and producers. Download as much as you can (with their consent). Share it with your friends, let Hip-Hop catch a fresh breath of air.

When a friend of mine started arguing for the legitimacy of some of the artists out right now, I just shook my head and handed him a mixtape. The next day he thanked me, and I told him to go to our indie store and buy what he liked.

]]> By: Jay-G http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-875863 Jay-G Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:56:33 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-875863 I was going to kill the guys piece, then I read it. He was on the money. What I don't like about Jay's album is what has made him a success. He has always had the smarts to ride a trend while always look like he was leading the pack. Do I agree with the entire piece? No, but I do have money on Freddie Gibbs. He is dope. I was going to kill the guys piece, then I read it. He was on the money. What I don’t like about Jay’s album is what has made him a success. He has always had the smarts to ride a trend while always look like he was leading the pack.

Do I agree with the entire piece? No, but I do have money on Freddie Gibbs. He is dope.

]]> By: Theo http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-875654 Theo Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:09:10 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-875654 bp3 is not "album of the year" bp3 is not “album of the year”

]]> By: Mad Max http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-875004 Mad Max Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:46:49 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-875004 HipHop aint dead....yet. But it's dying though. Hiphop is getting wacker by the day. No growth and oversaturation will make it less interesting for the people who go through changes. HipHop aint dead….yet.
But it’s dying though.
Hiphop is getting wacker by the day.
No growth and oversaturation will make it less interesting for the people who go through changes.

]]> By: EvanMCG http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-874825 EvanMCG Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:44:51 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-874825 If anything it benefits hip hop to not be the number one pop genre whoever is on top never the best anyways, the most popular i mean, flo rida souljah boy if not being number one means we have less of those rappers then this aritcle clearly shows that rap is turning in a better direction not being on top will allow hip hop to grow and foster a stronger group of artists sasha-frere jones should realize this and not herald his material with sensationalist titles in a transparent attempt to gain more attention anyone who properly reads his article absolutely knows that he doesn't think hip hop is dead at all If anything it benefits hip hop to not be the number one pop genre
whoever is on top never the best anyways, the most popular i mean, flo rida souljah boy
if not being number one means we have less of those rappers then this aritcle clearly shows that rap is turning in a better direction
not being on top will allow hip hop to grow and foster a stronger group of artists

sasha-frere jones should realize this and not herald his material with sensationalist titles in a transparent attempt to gain more attention
anyone who properly reads his article absolutely knows that he doesn’t think hip hop is dead at all

]]> By: Chip http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-874706 Chip Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:18:37 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-874706 BP3 is the album of the year and there were alotta other great hiphop releases from the likes of Ross Fab and Em to name a few. Certainly not dead. BP3 is the album of the year and there were alotta other great hiphop releases from the likes of Ross Fab and Em to name a few. Certainly not dead.

]]> By: Mike Jones http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/10/sasha-frere-jones-says-2009-is-the-year-hip-hop-died#comment-874671 Mike Jones Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:12:00 +0000 http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=67082#comment-874671 Mainstream hip hop is dead but the underground lives on! Mainstream hip hop is dead but the underground lives on!

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