Sheesh. Contra™ just sent this one over and…you’re gonna have to listen for yourself. Beans tells his version of the events that transpired behind the scenes better than any words I could muster up. When word first started leaking that Beans dissed Jay @ the Philly show, I was enh. Now, all doubts removed. Aggin even japped out & threw a shot @ Bleek LOL.
Remember when the Roc…dah well.
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UPDATE
Beanie Sigel explains himself with Charlamagne Tha God for a good portion of an hour. Includes how much money he actually made from his Roc days, his true relationship with Dame Dash and how Jay refused to bail him out to continue a tour and called the cops on him at the Powerhouse concert. He claims it’s all public record.
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Wrong link, G
fixed.
I bet Jay doesn’t even respond…
hell yes!!! props
Um… Beans went in. Should’ve been way more bombs, gun shots on that one. Man down.
How many times can somebody say the same thing before it sticks? How long has it been since Jay made anybody rewind the tape? How long can you be on top just because you saying you are?
This feels like that skit at the beginning of Dead Prez old album, where a nigga swear he eating and killing himself.
Valid points but sounds like Beans is just another disgruntled niglet fresh outta jail & spoutin off like Pimp C used to do lol. Everybody knows Jay didn’t bring all those dudes up like maybe he could have but fuck, these dudes swear they men & the illest alive, why aint they built themselves up after all this time? If you that cold, it shouldn’t be a problem. You was only on the hottest label around? You can’t build off that?
beans needs to leave them pills alone…them percs got hsi flow sounding mad lazy…
remember back on his first joint on songs like “Whats your life like” where it sounded liek he was rapping through clenched teeth and shit?
if he said those words with THAT emotion the shit would go HARD.
No doubt, you should have been able to build off that. But I didn’t take that as his criticism, money or finances surely contributed to his aggie, but still… It was a lack of character, he chose to go public after he felt like Jay called law dogs on him. From one black man to another, there’s no worse way to handle a situation. If you can’t handle me like a man, than what else can be said?
Wowzers…
A white glove slap to the face…
and nope, Jay won’t respond (directly). Perhaps a subliminal from Jay on a remix in the near future?
So I take it Beans WON’T be one of the MC’s Jay calls on if the Mos Def 5-on-5 battle (n)ever takes place…
With that being said.. Jay opened the door for em.. what else can he do? These dudes want him to walk for them. Yea, swiped from “Already Home” lol. But it fits lol.
Considering Sigel was the pit bull of the ROC, his words hold some weight. The post-rap rant, plus the situation with the po po WOULD have a cat just a littttttttle bit upset. That’s some wackness if it went down like that, and the way Beans is speaking on it.
If a nigga can’t eat cuz of some bullshit contract dispute and y’all sposed to be fam, I gotta side with this dude.
2 things.
1. If by now you don’t think Jay stomped on a
fewlot of toes, you’re being naive. But at the same time, if you didn’t expect him too, you’re equally naive. You don’t get to the top by pulling people up, you do it by pushing down on them. And that’s what Jay does/did/is doing. Get it right.2. If this is about loyalty and moral high-ground music should not be involved. Plain and simple. If they have a squabble and a real personal issue, a few subliminals here and there tops. If it’s about money, music should STILL not be involved. Why? Because this has happened *yawn* so many times before. Rapper disses Jay-z. Rapper gets internet buzz. Rapper drops album. Rapper flops like a fish out of water at a flopping competition. Rapper gets madder. Rapper goes mad. Rapper takes a year off. Rapper loses all. Jay gets richer and more obnoxious. Rapper cries himself to sleep when Jay drops a half bar subliminal 15 months later.
If he’s gonna put it on a track, a 8 minute track at that, PUT IT ALL OUT THERE. Start to finish. Call it a night. No Vaseline style. And then move on, move away, move quick. Because otherwise, you’re not doing it to get it off your chest, you’re pitching for a part in Days of our Rap Lives. You’re not gonna get paid for it, you’re actually gambling your whole career on David and Goliath odds.
*hops off Soap Box *
*sneaks back onto Soap Box*
and Kay Slay sucks.
CDQ NO GAY ASS KAY SLAY
http://usershare.net/qw5d1usy7l93
I co-sign everything Contra™ said.
“Um… Beans went in. Should’ve been way more bombs, gun shots on that one. Man down.”
Man, i have respect for the dj and what they bring to the game, but some NEED to have someone with a gun to their back to stop them from dropping every sound effect they have on new shit.
“Yo Jay, remember when…” (gun shot) (gun shot (gun shot)(sirens) (rewind) (bomb drop)
i can see all of SP going at jay. first run to the roc now this track.
*sneaks back onto Soap Box*
and Kay Slay sucks.
Hahahah Jeejus that was a lot of gunshots.
Damn. I wanted Beans to snap on this, but I’m kind of underwhelmed. Hope Beans is sober.
Damn. I wanted Beans to snap on this, but I’m kind of underwhelmed.
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Yep.
* yawn *
Hold up… he screamed it’s da roc at the end.
yeah that scream at the end had me confused too
I never thought I’d see the day, “This Can’t Be Life”
No G-Money shit all we got is…
Once again though…
if you gotta get some ish off your chest and the friendship has disintegrated to the point where this dude Jay is calling 5-0 on you in person, and otherwise not answering your calls, then c’est la vie.
He’s a rapper…how else you think he knows to handle it?
He ain’t corporate. What you expect?
If he was in advertising, perhaps he’d put up a billboard, but he ain’t.
Jay might wanna be Stringer and not respond otherwise, but I bet he WILL ‘manage’ to hear this, and that sounds like the point.
And despite the fact Kay Slay is playing it…er, screaming over it, the majority of the content sounds one-to-one. It sounds like dude ain’t trying to go the Ether route. Sounds like he’s just speaking directly to a cat that ain’t making the time to speak. I’m sure if he wanted to air some shit out, he could have, but once again. that doesn’t seem like the point.
The scream = sarcasm
*countdown to the Jay/Beyonce argument over that “look at you different” line*
beans is a sensitive dude [see: where have you been]…
i don’t see it as a diss necessarily… beans was pissed at jay for not reciprocating his loyalty… how else is he supposed to let him know???
dissin’ jay-z in pointless, this nigga jay just performed at the world series for the biggest sports franchise ever. handle that personal shit off wax
*I am about to get a little more personal in opinion than I should right now.
Real talk? Jay is one of the most difficult cats to actually get in touch with and speak to – even when you are working with him (beyond Timbo… I have NEVER even seen Timothy in real life – he may be a real life S1m0ne as far as I know – http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20015644,00.html).
But I hold nothing against him in that regard.
That said, we did speak and he talked in-depth about his artists/acts – specifically Beans. He basically kept it 100 and I sensed not one ounce of animosity. A man is a man. He told me that he believed Beans to be one of the nicest emcees in rap (which WAS true) – he just never applied himself.
It is like something in life that you are just really good at (anyone who watches MMA… think B.J. Penn) without having to even work at it. BUT, if you did, you could be the best.
Beans is a product of his own destiny. Jay opened the door.
Like Gotty™ mentioned… all of these dudes always talk about being men. What was Jay supposed to do… take your hand and walk with you through the door too?
He spoke of Beans ability to eat and live WELL off of rap. “Condo paid for… no car payment.”
People take that ish for granted.
It is the Young Buck syndrome – I swear.
These dudes look at the ones who put them on as if they owe them something. They gave you the opportunity that others will spend a lifetime chasing and NEVER reaching… and you squandered it.
And there just comes a time when you have got to stop blaming others and realize your faults and mistakes AND take responsibility for them.
As much as I know about Game… the one thing I admire is that the dude became rich. Forget that he talked bad about the one who put him on… he went out and kept hustling and made a way on his own.
You have Jay co-signing you publicly as well as privately. What more did you want?
Jay has made the right moves.
If you are a man, act like one.
Jay-Z called the police?
Man I bet Jay-Z pulls one his “I’m too cool to respond” shitty cards…how the fuck is Jay-Z considered the best when he won’t even battle…
@Theo….
Usually I’m pretty level headed when it comes to fighting and it’s hard to pull it out of me…except with my best friends. I’ve fought my best friends more than anyone.
Maybe it’ll end up mending their ‘ship.
@Beware
…hopefully…but this is a crazy week in hip-hop first Rakim goes in on Nas…now B. Sigel goes in on Jay-Z, never thought I’d see this…
P.S. How many albums did Beanie Mack drop?
How many opportunities was that for him to blow (II)?
Is that Jay’s fault?
If someone gives you the tools to make hits and get paid… and you do not? Was Jay supposed to pick your beats and write your hooks?
Maybe write your verses when he clearly stated (as well as many, many others) that you were one of the nicest?
Who produced your records again?
Oh that is right… the same producers that spawned numerous hits for S. Carter.
What excuses can you give to ALL of that?
Let us blame Jay, right?
*SMH*
Even Jayceon made hits in spite of claims that he could not… what with 50 being the one who wrote his hooks, right?
You cannot blame Jay. That mentality is why many of us are where we are.
Man up.
fuck all this shit Sigel sounds real mad an this shit is jus sad i wish it never got to this point
yeah he kinda went in on jay last interview i seen of him he said he was still listening to the ist track of bp3 giving jay credit now he wanna dis him u know what that means right …. i need money like hits on how high lol siegal is done dude all of his problems are his own he is the blame for doing all the dumb shit to him self ie ( rental car shit , shooting himself, numerous weed charges , probation so its jay fault he got locked up , yes he made good points on the song but could have handled that a differnt way totally but he aint mad and still scream the roc at the end like he said on 1- 900- huslter get a job holla at perdue lol
It is hilarious to me there are people who do not know Jay (some of ya’ll above me) who dedicate time out of their life to defend him on blogs.
HIL ARIOUS.
and oh yeah he jerked state property as well beans get ya life together dude
@ fiasco
What about those defending Sigel Sigel Ya’ll???
I co-sign everything Contra™ said.
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I second that.
Gotty has some good points as well. Other than Jay-Z, Beans has released more albums under the Roc-a-fella flag than anyone else,… he’s had more attempts at getting to the status that he wants to be at after all these years in the game. If anything, Beans’ behavior outside of the booth has kept him from getting what he deserves… in a nutshell, he made it easier for Jay to push him to the side. Let’s be honest, I don’t need to hear Beanie Sigel’s side of the story to know that.
Roc-a-fella Records is like the Sith. There is only one master and his apprentice. The Roc started with just Jay-Z & Memphis Bleek… and it will end that way as well. Plus I don’t see Bleek challenging the master any time soon.
This diss track was cool… but Beans has already played himself by even releasing it IMO. You waited this long fam?!!!
Jay-Z won’t diss back,… he know’s that Beans is dumb enough to come at him on some physical shit if he does. I don’t think Beyonce’s bodyguard would be able to stop Beans when he’s pissed either lol.
This shit is an airball. He got dealt pocket aces and checked on this one. He should’ve aired him out , instead he shot an airball.
I doubt you hear a peep from Jay on this, maybe lump him into a bar with the also-rans.
Here’s the thing…what woulda happened to Kanye West if Jay hadda stopped dealing with him after College Dropout. Yeezy would still be a mega-star. He paved his way with or without Jay. These cats had their chances…move on, broham.
PS. I bet Beanie woulda loved this pub when his album actually dropped
@TRA: Cosign, intensely.
Beans may feel bile for a lot of personal reasons, but the man needs to realize that it was business not personal. Granted, B.Sig went out his way to be loyal to Jay in a personal manner, and what did he get in return?
5 Solo Albums, The Dynasty, DVD’s, Rocawear contracts, a bunch of concerts, movies, a decent amount of $$(I refuse to believe that he refused Jay’s dough) and he got the most important thing any emcee could want. A Jay-z cosign. How do you start to call that not giving a shit?
Ok, he didn’t visit you in prison, but soon as you got out, you get your 16 on Ignorant Sh**, and another album out? You tour with the homie and all this other shit, so really what are we talking about?
Is Beans mad because Jay did more with less? Is he mad that Jay would cosign him on a track and call him the nicest shit out but not visit him in jail? In which case, having known Jay all these years and seen everything that’s happened thus far, why did he deem this the smartest move to make?
And before I believe that Jay called 911 on anyone, I’mma need some heavy proof. Watch how quickly Beans backpedals on that story.
sigel we need that ‘collabo wit scarface’ album. don’t fuck it. lol now it’s a duo album. ain’t no mo jigga on it. fuck! HA
:)
ps: gangsta gibbs’ boxframe cadillac’s lyrics, please !? someone ?! thxinad
^ Hahaa… word.
man look i dnt kno jay or beans an plus none of us were there on rocafella to kno wat actually went on behind the scenes
all of kno enought should kno enough about the record industry to that behind the scenes alotta shady stuff goes on
so for us to b agreeing with jay or beans is stupid since we were not really there an dnt really kno these people
i jus feel like just blaze did today ” im sad that im hearing this” because one thing we all do kno jay n beans were tight an rolled thick as thieves together an we all wish it never came to this
i’m ok beanie. BUT just.. WHY it NOW ???????
if jay was a bitch, it’s not just this year
2006 AG LP you a guest so you was cool
2009 BP3 LP you not, thus…
what!?
it’s all about doe
doe makes the world go
krazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Authorized Audiobiography of Greumsy Greums
*dead*
“Beanie Sigel’s fuckin’ up!” (C) Dave Chappelle
Dame is sitting somewhere doing the ‘dame dash dance’ listening to the Black rock album saying to himself “See I told you so!!!” And Biggs is next to him nodding his head in agreement. lol
Both parties are at fault, jay-z for his shitty treatment of the roc-a-fella roster for exception of bleek; and beans and the rest of sp for not learning the business and taking the fullest advantage of the opportunity given to them. While Kanye used the opportuntiy to learn how to fish and feed himself; the whole sp just wanted jay-z to continue to give them fish.
^
*bury*
Both parties are at fault, jay-z for his shitty treatment of the roc-a-fella roster for exception of bleek; and beans and the rest of sp for not learning the business and taking the fullest advantage of the opportunity given to them. While Kanye used the opportuntiy to learn how to fish and feed himself; the whole sp just wanted jay-z to continue to give them fish.
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truth
but jay still a flaw ass aggin…every friendship or partnership jay ever had soured, thats gotta tell you something about the way he values people and friendships…and dont bring up bleek in jays gay ass defense hes like that boys daddy…and if he were in fact like his daddy then that makes bleek a latch key child.
I wasn’t defending Jay when I mentioned Bleek. It is just the truth the only person he has shown any loyalty to has been Bleek. The end of the day Jay-Z’s #1 concern is the building of the Jay-Z brand, nothing else.
Hey greums: who did your biography Souljah Boy or the New Boyz?
LOL
What you must always remember in the music industry (and any industry of business for that matter) is that it is just like EPMD said:
“Business Never Personal”
I have been a part of it far too long to trust anyone, because the moment that you do, you get played.
And yes, the automatic human response is to get mad, criticize and complain… but you have to realize that it is your own fault for allowing such things to occur.
So Jay left him and others… he gave them enough so that when he inevitably did, they should have been millionaires able to make it on their own.
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it within himself.
Again, Game is a great example…
Buck is not.
Kanye… great example.
Beans… nope.
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The moment I begin to think anyone in the music business is my “friend,” is the day I become a fool.
every friendship or partnership jay ever had soured, thats gotta tell you something about the way he values people and friendships
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that tells you about those that you know about. There’s a good number of people still eating off jay(||).
anyone got that BISD?
The moment I begin to think anyone in the music business is my “friend,” is the day I become a fool.
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Hear ye, hear ye, a sage has spoken.
that tells you about those that you know about. There’s a good number of people still eating off jay(||).
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I guess we now know what Beanie meant about things he knew that will make B look at him funny. Thanks for spoiling the surprise Contra. LOL!!!
TRA is spitting that real.
You guys want a perfect example of how this was SUPPOSED to go down?
Look at Amil.
Waaaaaaay back when she had a record deal with the ROC, what happened? Jay gave her studio time. Jay gave her countless looks (The Rush Hour soundtrack, Jigga What, Do It Again, etc). Jay gave her tours and hookups with people (let’s be real, she didn’t get that cameo with Eve by herself). When it came time to re-up for that second album….
…she squandered it. And when Jay noticed it, he dropped her. Period.
What has she said against The ROC since then? Nothing, nada. She knew it was her own fault. She didn’t have the work ethic.
Everybody wants Jay-Z to not only get them to the door, turn the knob, open the door, and walk them through it, but hold the damn flashlight if the other side gets too dark.
I want to say be a man, but this is business. So, I’ll say this:
Be an artist.
Like TRA said, Game and KanYe rose above it all, and turned what little they had into something big.
Fuck a co-sign, I’ll co-sign my damn self. If I can’t make it on my own, then I’m not supposed to make it.
@ biggga
who did ya biography mcdonald or burger king ?
I agree with most of y’all that money and career wise Jay did a whole lot for Beans and he really should not complain, 5 solo albums should be the end of the conversation.
But I think the real point Beanie is making purposefully or not, is Jay left behind any association with the hood shit and just cut Beanie off silently instead of explaining himself.
Beanie was Jay’s soldier, popping off about potential gunplay so Jay didn’t have to. And when Beanie started catching all these cases, which were not typical rap shit like gun or weed possession, but rather maniac hood shit like bucking a shotty in broad daylight despite the fact you are on a gang of sedatives, Jay chose (wisely?) to not take responsibility for Beans any longer.
In open court Jay let it be down he would not vouch for Beans, and slowly but surely cut all lines of communication and separated himself.
It’s not a new story of rappers separating themselves from their wild cards as they move up tax brackets and social circles, 50 did the same shit with some of his old unit, but he was public about it saying they were simply a liability.
When Jay is doing 9/11 shows you think he still needs someone who still prolly got some maniac in him like Beanie? Nope, and even Beanie understands that Jay is in a different space and said so in the interview. But on some real shit at the end all he asked for was a conversation.
But actions do speak louder than words, and if any anybody I was down with told the judge they wouldn’t vouch for me at a parole hearing, I would know what was up immediately.
Off topic, but im wondering what The Real Anonymous has to say about Bleek. Regarding his lack luster career, relationship with Jay, and if Bleek really even cares anymore.
Just curious, if you have a few minutes to drop some insight.
Bleek’s on tour with Jay. He cares and he’s apparently down to play his part.
@ biggga
who did ya biography mcdonald or burger king ?
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aw damn, Gruems is snappin
@ biggga
who did ya biography mcdonald or burger king ?
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LMAO!!! Wendy’s did my biography. Don’t be mad that you are French and couldn’t get MC Solaar or Tony Parker to do your biography. lol
Bleek’s career is lackluster only because Jay said he was the next Jay-Z.
bleeks career is lack luster because he sucks.
and when ether came out and jay was on hot 97 crying and whatnot it was the philly boys that held jay down and made him look street worthy again…
what about jay jacking the whisper flow from lil chris which he still employs till this day?
jay z is a good rapper and a decent business man but all he knows is how to do jay…his only motivation to push beans was so he hopefully didnt have to rap anymore @ one point.
Yo I agree at the end of the day, they gave the opportunity, its all about what they do with it. 50 wrote 4 songs for Game, and kept used the little momentum he had and went with it.
Its a mentality, that people have I guess. They think that they are owed something from the world and wont make something out of nothing.
Will all you cats stop DICK RIDING jay-z, this dude been doing niggas dirty for a long time but you NY cats wanna stay on his tip because of the career he’s had. Come on man! Beans is telling the truth and its bout time niggas start puttin him out there man. Jay did all them niggas wrong and he knows it. he hids behind this “oh im not the same man anymore image” when niggas aint buying that shit anymore. 1st you was loyal to the ROC and everyone involved know you claiming niggas want you to breast feed them. SCREW JAY!!
Beans sounds mad slowed-down and pretty forgetful in that conversation with Charlamange.
:(
sounds like the big guy just wants ah hug and exsplination didnt hear him say jay owe him money but he did say dame did so whos really to blame nobody cause who really cares nobody cares enough to give there friends that vital advise why couldnt he just say to the guy hey man when u start to have millions of dollars get someone to manage it thats all the guy was asking for some big brother advice some great uncle advice u kno most people need help in life thats all the dude asked from jay and bleek when was the last album he had out nobody cares
oh yeah and dame and jay the best buddies in the world there laughing at everybody screaming iam rich
Watch your friends who you smoke with and run joke with
The only friend whe mi love is the one up above
Keep HIM closer to me than how a rope twist.
True words by JaVinci.
Will all you cats stop DICK RIDING jay-z, this dude been doing niggas dirty for a long time but you NY cats wanna stay on his tip because of the career he’s had. Come on man! Beans is telling the truth and its bout time niggas start puttin him out there man. Jay did all them niggas wrong and he knows it. he hids behind this “oh im not the same man anymore image” when niggas aint buying that shit anymore. 1st you was loyal to the ROC and everyone involved know you claiming niggas want you to breast feed them. SCREW JAY!!
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Hey, I’m from NY & I’ve been saying Jay is shady for years.
Does he blame Jay for getting locked up too?
so let me get this straight….
we all know jay is about doing business and makin porfitable decisions.
beanie had 3 albums and a state prop album, plus numerous mixtapes. and then he goes in jail.
if im jay, i wash my hands of him too. how many times do you have to put someone on before they realize that they gotta stop doin ignorant street shit and stop trying to “be a real street nigga”.
enough of that baffoonery. grow the fuck up beans and make something of yourself. cuz no matter how he tries to spin it, HE IS STILL USING JAY TO GET MONEY AND FAME.
that what comes when you try to put out a diss record towards someone more successful than. you wanted to be a street nigga and think that be out of that and keeping your nose clean is some soft shit? come on now. BE A MAN NOT ANOTHER IGNORANT ASS BOY
First of All, Jay-Z is kinda wack now and probably did call the police.
Secondly, Beanie Sigel is not mad at Jay for his legal and financial issues, that is his own shit. He’s mad because Jay was his friend. Sort of. If there are friends in rap.
Beans is nostalgic for the heady days of the rock around the turn of the century, when the Roc was like a team. Hov was the Quarter Back and Beanie Sigel was the wide receiver. All he is asking is for Jay to visit him in the bing and acknowledge him.
But then again, people grow apart (||).
I mean, Beans did handle the battle shit in the early ’00s.
And fucking with a man’s livelihood by locking him into his record contract is some Diddy caliber shit.
separate rap careers from character and u kno sigel would be on top. he rode with jay and now jay can only stack up from switchin his style….the thug shit aint hot for some reasom its all bout the glitz and glamour—jay’s specialty.
Beans had a clothing line, a record label, a sick crew, and the number 2 spot on the ROC. I remember on MTV’s the diary, Beans was in a club about to wild out and Jay went and got him. I think Jay just got tired of pulling this dude back from the edge.
@since1979
thats exactly what im sayin! howlong do you have to carry along a grown ass man before youre fed up that you are still carrying a grown ass man who continues to mess up what youve given him
It’s a sad day if you’re a ROC fam.
I dont know about any of whats going on with them outside of the limelight obviously… but not sending something to your boy in jail… come on
After listening to the song and radio interview it seems as if this was a heartfelt convo tht beans wanted to tell jay buts has not gotten a chance to say since jay is hard to reach. now the who money and fame part beans admitted he has squandered his chance (on the interview he said he need tht jail time to wake up) now as far as wht he wanted from jay he wanted him to school him to the biz which you are supposed to your self but i guess he expected jay’s help so tht is wht it is also it seems as if beans is more hurt about the loss of a friendship if you notice beans wasn’t hatin calling him camel face or any other dumbshit he was just venting which is cool at the end of the day beans wants a convo with jay about evrything and i think jay does owe him one
also on a side note how else could beans have handled this situation you wanna have a convo niggas wont answer your calls he wont speak to you in person you can;t have a press conference so wht do you do??? i think beans did the only thing you could do holla at him on wax and see wht happens. i think jay beans dame and the whole roc did there fair share of dirt but at the end of the day recird biz or not if you claim to be fam fam this fam tht crew love this dynasty tht yall shld be able to communicate.
If u work with Jay-Z, and u get played, u deserve it.
Damn A Nigga go on Vacation and all types of Shit Happen SMH
Beans is the truth
P-H-I stand up
Its too bad…
Y’all heard him say its not about the money..cos it aint. Examine the proof. Freeway, Beans, Young Chris, Omilio Sparks, Peedi-Crack…not one sustained career. We could say they all fucked up but it Kinda mirrors exactly what Sean Combs did to his artists. They responsible for their own futures and they know that. That’s not the grouse. They were played by someone they thought was their friend and Brother.
We can talk all we want about the music biz but Jay know he played these cats and he played them cold. Not in any of the tracks have they asked for handouts. These homies wanna do what they do best and they thought they could ask Big Homie, who’s back they had when the bullets were flying, who they went to war for, gave credibility cos lets not get it twisted, cos my ass is east coast, Jay isnt and wasnt near the hardest or most liked homie on the block. These brothas created a coccoon for him to be who he is now.”Ether” could have been the end of Jay, all the other battles that he should have fought but deffered to these cats could have dented his aura (y’all seemed to have forgot how hot Ja rule was), now he living large and they back on the corner with homies laughing at the “Roc”
I have a new found respect for 50 cent now cos his crew living!..I read an interview with MOP, where they said thanks to the situation, even though they were off GUNIT and didnt release an album, they were debt free for the first time in years!
I did not cop BP3. Jay dont need my 10 dollars anyways but it would have been me co-signing bitchassness. Money aint everything y’all.
The music industry is exactly that…an industry. Its subject to the same rules that apply in any business industry. You think Donald Trump didn’t step on some people to get where he is? cmon now. J did have a brief response at some press conference I saw on http://www.thehigherplane.net. Didn’t say much, but what else do you expect
In the end of it all Jay-Z is going to say his shit and then move on, No one expects a Beans diss record from Jay-Z and because that nigga status too high If he did….It would only make such a situation worse, Beans aint doing shit on his own anyway But look what the record did it has us tuned into Beanie Siegel Okkay?…..and where the fuck has Beanie Been? Ha
Co-signing phillysaracen to the fullest.
That’s the truth right there.
This can’t be life! This can’t be us…
I’m from Brooklyn and I hate grown men that dick ride Jay Z! Damn this is nothing new. He’s a brooklyn dude and brooklyn dudes are grimy. He been doing dudes dirty and for everyone that’s riding Jay is going to see in the end that what goes on in the dark always comes to light. Jay know he has some things coming to him. I mean come on this man calls himself God and people still follow him. That shows you how guillable people are. He actually said he doesn’t pray to God he prays to Gotti and yet people still ride this dude. His down fall is going to be something crazy.
JAY-Z IS WRONG FOR NOT PAYING THIS BROTHER LIKE THAT BEANIE SIGEL IS GETTING OFF ON HIM THAT ALL GET THEM BEANIE SIGEL WEST COAST ALL DAY…..
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I LOVE BOTH ARTIST DON’T GET ME WRONG BUT IT A SHADY BUSINESS 50 CENT,DIDDY,JAY-Z ALL KNOW FOR SCREWING THERE ARTIST WEST COAST ALL DAY SLAUSON BOYZ.
KEEP IT H60D CUZZ ALL DAY SLAUSON/CRENSHAW DISTRICT SLAUSON BOYZ
JAY-Z PAY YOUR ARTISTS ALL OF THEM FROM JAY-O AND THE WHOLE ROCC NATIONS PERIOD YOU SHADY CUZZ