The Audio History Of The Game Vs. Jay-Z
AUDIO By J. Tinsley on July 13, 2009 at 7:45 pm
One of the most beautiful innovations about the new age of music and the internet is the ability to flashback at the mere click of a button. With the situation between The Game and Jay-Z seemingly growing more and more intense by the day (at least on Game’s part), it is sometimes easy to forget the two have been been in each other’s rhymes for nearly a half a decade. After the jump, a crash course of subliminal and obvious disses are dissected in one of Hip-Hop’s most known-unknown “beefs”.
Hit the break.
2004
The Game -”200 Bars N’ Runnin’” (Joe Budden & Memphis Bleek Diss)
Quotables: “Like AZ from Harlem, Dre gon’ pay me regardless cause he know Jay-Z departed…” “…It was all a dream like I seen Memph Bleek in Marcy/ I ain’t say you won’t see Bleek in Marcy/ I said my man told me he don’t see Bleek in Marcy…”
Notes: Nine minutes of Jayceon waxing poetics over the “Deep Cover” instrumental with clear cut shots at Joe Budden (that beef has been well documented). However, similar to the beef with Nas, The Game’s initial problems were with Memphis Bleek.
2005
The Game – “Westside Story” (off the debut album The Documentary)
Quotables: “Payback, homie I’m bringin’ CA back/ And I don’t do button up shirts or drive Maybachs..”
Notes: Before Rick Ross made the Maybach his personal staple, it was no secret who made the vehicle a known commodity in the realm of Hip-Hop. And the world knows who started the button-up craze.
The Game – “The Documentary” (off The Documentary)
Quotables: “If I die my n*ggas, f*ck it, I did a song with Mary Blige my n*ggas/ Got a hook from Faith, no verse from Jay/ I guess on ‘Westside Story’ he thought I spit in his face/ Told Ed Lover and Monie Luv I was talkin’ to Ja with that Maybach line/ It was payback time…”
Notes: As big of a fan as I am of Game, I’m still confused at how that bar was meant for Jeffery and not Shawn.
Jay-Z – “Hot 97 Freestyle” (Game & Cassidy Diss)
Quotables: “You plan to bang, I plan to bang too/ You playin’ the games, I’m seeing the thing through/ You sayin’ my name to entertain ya’ crew/ I ain’t playin’ no games, the shots exchange are through/ Fresh off probabtion, I got a charge to throw away/ My lawyer say for 80 large it’ll go away/ And that ain’t no money to Jay/ So you can get broad day on Broadway while TRL tape…”
Notes: While it was never confirmed the lines above were about The Game, looking at Jay’s history (of subliminals) would tell you he was.
The Game – “300 Bars N’ Runnin’” (G-Unit, Memphis Bleek & Young Gunz Diss)
Quotables: “That boy colder than Hova unless he sober/ Like I’m the President but this ain’t the Takeover/ Now, there’s the speaker, bring your ears a lil’ closer/ Before you call this a diss and you make Hova pissed/ Why would I wanna do that? When I’m just a new cat/ That was taught if a n*gga take shots then shoot back/ Defendin’ his yard, yeah standin’ his ground/ I’m sayin’ if you gon’ retire then hand me the crown/ Nahh let Bleek do it then throw him a concert in Madison Square/ Watch everybody sleep through it…”
Notes: Obviously having heard the freestyle from a month before, Game drops his now infamous 15 minute barrage mainly aimed at G-Unit. The lines above are aimed directly at Jay. While not disrespectful at this point, he does leave the opportunity open for a lyrical tussle between the two.
2006
The Game – “120 Bars N’ Runnin’” (G-Unit Diss)
Quotable: “Ain’t got sh*t against Hov, I like the n*gga style…”
Notes: At this point, whatever friction between the two that was thought to have been there appeared to be over.
Jay-Z – “The Prelude” (off Kingdom Come)
Quotables: “The game’s f*cked up/ N*gga, ya beats is banging, ya hooks did it/ Ya lyrics didn’t, ya gangsta look did it…”
Notes: To Hov’s credit, this line was probably intended for a wide selection of rappers, but one of the main gripes by Game’s critics is his hooks, beat and image were the reason he found success. Maybe Jay felt the same.
2007
The Game – “My Bitch” (50 Cent, Jay-Z and Suge Knight Diss)
Quotables: “I was first introduced to her in ‘96/ She had a wavy haircut and some big ass lips/ At first she was hard to hit/ Come to find out the last 10 years she was suckin’ B.I.G.’s d*ck…”
Notes: Dubbed as an unreleased track which was mysteriously leaked, it was clear that Game’s feelings towards Jay-Z were past a friendly level of competition and elevated towards disrespectful status.
T.I. Feat. Jay-Z – “Watch What You Say To Me” (off T.I.’s T.I. vs. T.I.P.)
Quotables: “N*ggas get to running before you finish your sentence/ And then they back to riffin’ when they off in a safe distance/ You like, ‘you was just here, you disappear like magicians’/ In thin air, I’m like damn n*gga, at least keep it consistent/ I hear you baiting me lately, I been doing my best just to stay hater free/ Still, watch what you say to me…”
Notes: While this was thought to have been a verse aimed at both Lil Wayne and The Game when it first surfaced, all the hints point towards Game, especially the ‘baiting’ reference.
2009
Jay-Z – “Blueprint 3″ Intro Freestyle
Quotables: “I ain’t talkin’ bout gossip/ I ain’t talkin’ bout Game/ I ain’t talkin’ bout Jimmy/ I ain’t talkin’ bout Dame…”
Notes: Five years after ‘200 Bars’, Jay finally mentioned The Game by name on a record. What his next is (if he even plans on going that route), remains to be seen, but it did prompt this.
The Game – “I’m Wavy” (Jay-Z Diss)
Quotables: “No one on the corner gotta swagger like you/ Cause no one on the F*CKIN’ corner is 42…”
Notes: Nevermind the lingo from Max B, Jayceon took the swipe from Hov as a call from all out war. While the verses weren’t anything to get excited about, the disrespect factor in the song is on code red with swipes at Amber Rose’s infidelity, Beyonce and Jay’s alleged inability to procreate and Jay’s barring of Chris Brown from the B.E.T. Awards.
So what’s next? “Takeover 2″? “400 Bars”? Who knows, I’m just glad we’ve got something else to talk about other than Michael Jackson (no disrespect, but we’ve got to let the man rest in peace).
Related Reads — TRU Brain Trust Analyzes “I’m So Wavy” [TRU] | The Game: A History Of Beef [Complex]
Previously Posted — The Game – “I’m So Wavy” (Jay-Z Diss)
Posted in AUDIO, GENERAL, LOOSIES, MUSIC — Tags: Beef, Diss Records, Jay-Z, The Game
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Jigga>Game
and nah I ain no stan, just the truth
tru…..i feel like jay is just playin with this dude and anytime he wants he can just say fuck it and lyrically merk game. im interested to see what he does
HoVa
I`m the Duke, please bless me like Mike Krzyzewski
Two weak ass rappers beefin`, don`t impress me -
La the Darkman
Jigga>Game
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Don’t have to be a stan to admit that. It’s a given.
^word
^ true, but give game a name to drop and he can spit some serious bars. n jigga isn’t just any name
don’t get it twisted, jay will rip game apart, but i dont think it will be all that one sided
Jay made a lot of enemies with D.O.A. and I think a few more diss tracks from other artists are soon to emerge, believe that.
I think that on current form Game > Jay-Z. Obviously, Jay is the better rapper over time, but as things sound now, with that spoken word/whisper shit Jay has been kicking for a while (since he managed to hide Young Chris), Game might whoop him.
Jay gonna b subliminal if he sayz anything…. game will b direct.. who ever could come off with the wordplay has me….
Game>Jigga
(haha, I kidd, I kidd)
eventually the older heads and the older artists are gonna have to show some respect to the new generation and the fans that even put them in a position to even go at jays old ass.
we know jay put in that work and we know that jay got a monster catalog but these past few years jay has really kind of fell off to me. american gangsta didnt move me that much and kingdom come was subpar too.
im not surprised that this is the reaction hes getting from this site though most of the posters including myself are from the “grown” and sexy demographic and this comes off like some real blatent disrespect but i see it as changing of the guards…jay has the most overrated swag in the game he aint been a tastemaker in my eyes in at least five years…
so im gonna go against the grain and say that i hope game shits on jay in a major fashion.
^ Nah, when its all said and done, regardless of if Jay has won or lost a battle, he remains victorious.
Jigga > Game
… no matter how you look at it. lol
like i said i cant to nothing but respect jays work that hes put in but lets keep it g.
he aint been THAT jay since the black album.
jay still has superior skills and an unmatchable catalog but this is not just two overrated rappers going at it this represents old vs new…
the same cats that made gucci mane a success and made dancing acceptable again are gonna make sure that game comes off in this…after watching 50 spin his tires against ross i totally can see this going down.
i just hope it dont start a west coast east coast thing.
as much as i love jay, he needs to be making songs like “letter to the king”
Game is a stalker point, blank, period. If Jay calls him now and says……fuck it I’ll get on your record….Game will make a vlog and say he is sorry.
Jay FTW.
I said this in another post (another site) that these “young/new” rappers are disrespectful. Jay, Nas, Wu, Scarface, etc didn’t come up throwing shots at Rakim, KRS-One, KGR, etc.
Anyway…. Jay +4 with .02 seconds left on the clock.
The Game – “The Documentary”
I seriously love that track. Can’t explain.
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If Game didn’t have such a poor history with “beef,” I might find him entertaining. But since he hasn’t really deaded anybody, it’s Jay by default. I mean I can say “Game ain’t afraid to battle anybody” yet I know he’ll flip out & apologize later so…fuck it.
“I mean I can say “Game ain’t afraid to battle anybody” yet I know he’ll flip out & apologize later so…fuck it.”
^^^^^^
Yep
Plus he stay “dissin” 50 and Curtis is still eatin off of him for a couple more albums…he really shouldn’t say anything.
i think the perception is the majority of the people out there think he singlehandedly bodied g unit…
i dont think thats the truth but from what i gather thats what it seems how most feel…especially the younger cats…the ones that bump boosie and gucci and them…
What is Game’s whole deal with “…. Bars n Runnin’ ?” Does he save that for diss tracks, or is he just that unimaginative when it comes to giving his tracks titles?
Yeah but Games the type of dude who goes at it like he has nothing to lose, he goes down but he takes people down with him.
I think he took major wind out of G-units attempt at world domination by just down swinging, just one dude, and dude can rap.
Jay z will need to bring a gun to the knife fight to get rid of this guy.
Im more interested in Gucci Manes Jay-z disses.. Jay didnt want it with him, Gucci makes Jay Z look old and bourgie… Kind of like how Wayne made Jay look when they were throwing shots around.. “i could merk you and come out when im 44..” etc
Fuck at least Game goes at it and raps hard, and he’s a funny motherfucker
Also was good to hear Jay Z put some shit on Kanye, thats one dude i could never stand claiming to be the king… *uurgh*
Did I just read Jay-Z battle Gucci?
One of us needs to log off lol
“Im more interested in Gucci Manes Jay-z disses”
^^^^^
Please point me to this/these songs…I really need to hear these.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXfbD2DqeNM (Mr. Carter)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDjH1vDmz2Y (Hello Brooklyn 2.0 (Live))
These should answer any questions about Jay>Wayne
when did gucci battle jay?
was i asleep that week?
MJ vs. Harold Miner
i don’t want to get in a whole thing with TC over the definition of a “classic,” but if you ask me, Game’s first two = classics (or pretty damn close)…and better than anything Jay’s put out recently…AG was aiight, but not a classic
The Documentary will one day be considered a classic. I’ll give Game that even though 50 wrote 4-6 of the songs. Song for Song DA not fuking with AG at all. Put it up against KC if it wants to win.
I think game can rhyme but I also Think The Game acting like the psycho side jawn to Jay-Z’s Steve McNair. Stop being a stan and be a fuckin man . . .you confused ass LOser
Even if Game is gets the credit for deading G-unit, why would that mean he could do the same to Jay.
First Jay-Z is superior to G-unit in every way lyrics songs longevity pause etc
this not about fuckin swagger or clothes it’s about music and respect and Jay will always win those wars
jay needs a fucking haircut.
…and it should be noted that the diss from westside story was at ja rurle who a few months prior to this appeared on the cover of rides mag. with a maybach and wearing a button up….
Gucci dont even want it wit Jeezy, why would he go @ Jay?
Jay probably too busy figurin out which current rapper’s style he gonna mimmick next
K!ng Petey, you’re right bro. I swear I couldn’t find this when I was researching.
http://www.rides-mag.com/FEATURES/0504.JaRule/index.html
“Im more interested in Gucci Manes Jay-z disses”
^^^^^
Please point me to this/these songs…I really need to hear these.
Alright I’ll dig these up & everybody can feel free to tell me im motherfucking wrong (godblesstheinternet)
…I’ll be back might take me a little while
…Thissssssss motherfucking shit is stupid, but anyway here goes (its the internet whatelseareyougonnado)
“Gucci godfather, flow just like water, never bought s dot carters…”
“..ya mad cos i put jeezy on, jay z tell me wheres my finders fee…”
“…ya def jammin with that fat lip ni99a, ya both A.S.S so you belong with jigga…” …ok it wasnt gucci who said this line but its on Gucci’s track & is so fucking fire, classic diss song
“…i aint jay z but i got me a beyonce, i aint talkin bout her bein my fiance…”
There are countless more examples of Gucci dissing Jay Z, but you will have to wait till i upload & then search through my DREAM RECORDER because i fucking IMAGINED THEM.
I hereby BAN myself from commenting on the internet
i would have to agree that I am excited to see what will happen next. Hip hop needs battles to get it alive and it has been this way since the beginning….
Game…smh…cramming syllables into a verse is like one of them big 7-footers they find in Senegal or some shit, and shove a basketball into their face….
He’s clumsy doing what he does. Great for a highlight or two on some nights, but not about his shit (ll).
Game’s more Thabeet than Olajuwon is what I’m getting at here…
He ain’t even mastered his craft of emceeing yet. His verses hardly ever ride the beat, redundant as hell (Compton, Dre, 6-4, Fiddy references….chorus)… That ain’t gonna get it with Jay.
Jay DOES need to stop that feminine whispering shit though (my .02).
Say what you will, talk about records sold…whatever….(The) Game’s overrated.
He’s a great beat selector (a big reason his albums do so well), and more a product of a younger generation clamoring for that beef they heard about in previous (rap) generations… The Biggie/Pac’s, Nas/Jay’s, KRS/Shan’s… (I don’t think I’d include Ja/Fiddy… That shit was just comedy….in a ‘little dude got ambushed’ sort of way). Younger fans wanna see that shit, and this is the cat always in the center of some shit.
He’s like a little dog yippin’ and yappin’ at the big dogs. Dude got a whole lot to bark about til’ one of them big dogs actually steps in his direction.
Am I making this up?
All recent beef in Hip Hop is pathetic anyway, really the only notable one was Nas and Jay – really, if you want to talk about real Hip Hop. I’m not going to bother check for this
^the last notable one in history.
There needs to be an actual, factual, live battle… Somebody needs to set it up as a charity event in Vegas or some other neutral ground, put Jay and Game in the ring with the crowd on their feet, hanging on to every word and watch as these two, who are both great in their own right, slug it out (verbally of course) til somebody’s going in so hard people are jumping in the ring to stop it cause the loser couldn’t possibly take any more damage… After that, go in for round 2
lol @ jays feminine whispering.
he does do that shit too much and yeah he did swagger jack that shit from the philly boys.
game aint getting enough credit for his growth as an emcee…hes grown leaps and bounds since his first album.
Game is a punk simply because he disrespected a man’s WIFE! That was so uncalled for, Beyonce had nothing to do with that bullshit with him and Jay-Z. Where I’m from, a dude will kill you about his wife. To show u how stupid he is, Jay-Z name is in the cornerstone. Ppl will remember Hov for years to come. All this buffoon will be known for is neg things (beefing, getting kicked out of Gunit, being a studio gangsta) and the list goes on. Not to mention Hov would/could have a field day on his girl because she looks and dresses like somebody’s grandmother. He HAS lost a lot of fans behind this stunt. He is childish and selfish. He don’t want nobody on the West Coast to shine other than his weak ass. I hope Brazil Street Records, Glasses Malone, Bishop Lamont and all them dudes blow the f*ck up. He haven’t pushed one artist from BWS yet! This stupid asshole just sickens me!
Thomas says…”I said this in another post (another site) that these “young/new” rappers are disrespectful. Jay, Nas, Wu, Scarface, etc didn’t come up throwing shots at Rakim, KRS-One, KGR, etc.”
As far as I’m concerned, this is the point of the day.
I think the “old rapper” insult is a tad played out at thsi point. Lyrical ability these days is ageless. Jay is nice. Jay was nice and Jay is STILL nice. The Game is nice too, but as far as being on a Jay-Z level overall, I can’t see it. It remains to be seen whether Jay will even respond (and not subliminally), but if he does, it has to be on a “Takeover” level because everybody’s waiting for him to fall off…let’s see how this plays out. As a sidenote, “D.O.A” is my joint right now!
Juicy…wasn’t Jay the one that “left condoms on the baby seat”?
Please, Jay can yawn better than Game can spit…
@ JTinsley… yes but
1) Nas and Carmen were NOT married
2) Carmen set herself up for that because she was playing both ends from the middle (read her book, I did)
3) Mentioning a condom in a car seat does not compare to calling someone’s WIFE a whore and accusing her of screwing 3 sports teams.
I guess this will teach his silly self that with age comes wisdom. I am from Cali and we are not backing him on this one. Dude has lost a lot of fans behind this.
“I’m spiteful, if I don’t like you,
i’m liable to buy you just to drop you” – Jay Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBVUqV2wcE