Earlier this week, Gotty™ directed us to a piece entitled “Six Guests That Need To Be On Detox.” Throwing the element of surprise directly out the window, that list included Redman, Kanye West, Hova, Weezy, Raekwon and The Game. Now, I don’t mean to rain on another’s opinion…but aside from Jayceon, that list is subpar setup for a less than stellar presentation. It reflects someone who turned the radio off long enough to pick his favorite rappers, mix them with headliners Dre has yet to work with and, voilà, a “new & improved” version of Detox. “I would love to see a rejuvenated Hov kick sixteen bars over a supernova hot Dre beat. C’mon – you would too.”
Not on this album.
Nor would I ever want to hear Wayne ruin a Dre song by using one of disgusting Autotuned moan adlibs. The good Doctor’s series of Chronic albums are contemporary classics that have spotlighted emerging rappers and paved the way for two generations of the Westcoast. They’ve never been a who’s who of popular rap and never should be. Too many big names leaves a watered down product (See: Aftermath’s roster, circa 2004-2007).
With that said, let’s see who should really be on most the anticipated gangsta-rap album of all time.
Crooked I
Not only has this man been grinding harder, better, faster and longer than most emcees presently out, he’s basically the leader of the New West movement. He’s got the all the tools to keep the coast afloat, has had little to no help from his elderstatesman and the man’s breakout is overdue. If you’ve heard “Say Dr.Dre,” a track Crooked supposedly ghostwrote for Doc, you know this is probably already in the works. And that’s why it’s justified.
Ice Cube
It’s hard to believe how little these two have worked together since the demise of N.W.A. Aside from the ill-fated rebirth of the world’s most dangerous group and their sinister “Natural Born Killaz” collaboration, these pioneers have let the salty taste in their mouths keep them from making classic music for the masses for too long. If they can see past their differences and huge stacks of greenbacks, a reunion of sorts would be perfectly timed for Detox. While they’re at it, a call to Ren would be a great look on both their parts.
Warren G.
While Warren’s “Deez Nuts” intro on the original Chornic is possibly the most famous skit ever, Dre’s half-brother has never gotten proper dues on his fam’s projects. No, he’s not the best rapper, which is probably Dre’s reasoning, but there’s no question the man is super-talented in his own right. If he doesn’t get any bars, a featured beat or beat-collabo would be a great addition to the project, and an even better look for Warren’s dwindling career.
Too $hort
Besides appearing together on Scarface’s “Game Over,” Short Dog and Dr.Dre have never worked side-by-side. For the sake of the Left Coast legacy, real needs to recognize real. With all fakery in mainstream rap, there’s no better time than now for this pair of forty-somethings to give every Hip-Hop fan that true pimp single they’ve waited on for years. If they could add Devin The Dude on the hook, it would be straight retarded. Just a thought.
Joell Ortiz
Another member of Slaughterhouse, but more pertinently a former member of the Aftermath roster. Obviously, Andre knows what the Brooklynite is capable of lyrically, but couldn’t manage his career and let him go. A few featured guest spots on Detox, like he did for new jacks such as Hittman or Six-Two on 2001, would go a long way in terms of reparations. Besides, we’ve all heard what Joell does to Dre’s beats.
Nate Dogg
This is the main reason the original list gets axed. More than the fact that Nate Dogg needs to be on Detox, he has to be. These two are the epitome of a symbiotic relationship. They make more hits together than they do without each other and Dre knows it. If he was smart, Dre would wait till Nate is healthy to release the already oft-delayed album. Screw T-Pain and Akon. When it comes to California gangsta music, everyone knows it ain’t a hit ’til Nate Dogg spit.








Throw DJ Quik in the mix and you’ve got a deal.
Am I the only person that’s expecting Marsha Ambrosius to show up on this joint?
Yeah, that other list was garbage. Detox isn’t an experiment, it should be an instant classic.
This list though, on point.
Am I the only person that’s expecting Marsha Ambrosius to show up on this joint?
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ummmmm…….yup!
Im thinkin Lady of Rage and/or Michelle` woulda been a liiiiiiiiittle better!!!
@ Douglas Howser
I feel you on that DJ Quik. The list is on point though. Especially the part about Ice Cube.
How bout a apperance from the Lady of Rage
flawless victory
u niggas cant do shit to me
physically, lyrically, hypothetically, realistically….
1992 Cube? Yeah. 2009 Cube? FUCK NO!
One.
Nice list(& on point), but I wouldn’t care if Peter Pan & The Lost Boys were on it as long as I get to hear it by the time I’m 30.
You got 3 1/2 years Dre… otherwise I’m wiping my hands of Detox
im on it with everyone that said Quik needs to be on that album
“Nor would I ever want to hear Wayne ruin a Dre song by using one of disgusting Autotuned moan adlibs.”
Never that.
Dre is far too much of the perfectionist in giving artists (correct) direction to allow that to happen (if it were to happen).
I remember Gwen dropping through to do her vocals for the E-V-E joint and as simplistic and generic as that hook sounds (i.e. meaning you really could have stuck any female singer into that hook and it would sound the same)…
She was in that booth for hours (I mean HOURS).
The problem with artists such as Weezy is that most often, they are bigger than the producers that they are working with (minus Kanye – but why would ‘Ye argue against Wayne using auto-tune… lol).
Not so with Dre says TRA.
You listen to what Dre says because he knows what he is doing, has been in the game far longer than you, and will simply…
Well, it just does not happen.
Artists have that much respect for him.
Not caring too much for the “new” Wayne… but I actually believe that if something as the above were to happen (a collabo), it would bring out the absolute best in him.
Dre is not just a beatmaker (as SO many of these so called “producers” are these days). He is a true producer who will tell you to re-write your verse until you get it right.
I do not care if you are Prince, Michael, or Madonna.
You are going to work (and work HARD) on a song with the D-R-E.
On point list…but Bishop Lamont is also a must. Just like you said, Dre has always put emerging rappers on. Bishop is synonymous with where Dre is at, at this point in time. It’ll be like the perfect one-two punch…The Reformation and Detox. Aftermath will be back.
But yeah we all know Bishop will be on there for sure anyways. Any news on the Reformation?
A crazy posse joint – The Slaughterhouse cats (they all have some link to Dre except Joe Budden), Eminem and Cube/Ren or both. That alone would be worth my £12.99.
A 2009 version of Some L.A. Niggaz/Lyrical Gangbang!
^no way in hell is slaughterhouse getting a track on Detox. Only one I see getting a chance is Crooked I.
Snoop is the overlooked must. There CAN’T be a Dre album without at least one Snoop feature.
This list is supposed to be better??? Fuck that….it’s WORSE!
You want a classic by including wash-ups like Crooked I…Joell Ortiz??
Nate Dogg for the millionth time??? Two old ass rappers like Cube and Short that have no pull with the younger generation???You got to think harder than that man. I know you all for bringing back the West…but with this sorry ass list?? Naaaaah man…..let DRE handle it…theres
a reason why it’s taking forever to come out.
change this title to “Six Guests That Really Need To Be On Detox……to help there non-existent career!”
How about he pays us back for the wait by releasing 3 albums worth of material. I dunno how he’d structure it (one disc with the old west, one with old/current non-west guests and one with the new west), but he owes big time at this point. I’d buy all that shit and he gets to fit everyone in.
And there is nothing wrong with 2009 Cube. Fuck!
Bishop Lamont ain’t maybe needed but he will fucking be on Detox !
dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn’t do diddily
i vote also for : mef, styles, jada, royce da 5’9”,
maybe just for ghostwritting… like always ;
but pinero over a dr dre beat, that will be straight crack !!
Ay-yo my murderous rap verbal attack is actual fact
Tactical tracks match perfectly with graphical stats
Half a you lack the magical dap of tragical rap
That tackles you back and shackles and laughs at you
That’s…the mathematical madness I’m on, the savage, the strong
The marriage, a bond of havoc and song
dre should just let every artist who has been on aftermath/chronic album get a few bars on detox. rea/joell/bishop/eve/busta/em/etc. call that shit the “bonus disc”, along with detox.
“I remember Gwen dropping through to do her vocals for the E-V-E joint and as simplistic and generic as that hook sounds ”
^i heard she was on the brink of tears in the booth
ps: big pun is dead (r.i.p) he wont be on detox
Detox is never coming out, period. Who the fuck cares about Dr. Dre anyway??? He puts out two tracks a year and people say he’s “the greatest producer”, yeah right. I’m tired of these dudes getting props for past/minimal work; if you’re a true producer you better have bangaz on deck all the time and not once in a while.
You made a grave mistake
Shouldn’t of come here, you changed your fate
Your brains’ll make the debut on the table when I raise the stakes
@ Douglas and Crash…
If i would’ve put Quik on the list, I would’ve felt like a Stan…even though he defintely should be on there. Thing is, based on his recent videos talking about Dre’s studio, he probably will be.
Same goes for Bishop Lamont, Snoop…I didn’t include them, because they’re guaranteed.
@Hell No…
You got disregarded as soon as you called Joell and Crooked, who are in the prime of their professional career, ‘wash-ups.’ Bad call. As far as Nate, Cube and Short having no pull with the young’ns….it doesn’t matter! Dre doesn;t need to sell records, they’re going to sell themselves…it’s DETOX. He needs to find the best artists for the project, and imo, collabos with all three of those older gentleman would be something 80% of the rap world would want to hear.
Hell No…are you BDub? lol
I would rather just trust Dre’s judgement on this one.
If an artist doesn’t fit into a song, and if that song doesn’t fit into a record, he’s not going to make it. Let’s not forget he’s been working on this for years, and multiple sources have claimed it to be finished, from Snoop Dogg to Just Blaze.
Completely unrelated to this post but I just took my lsat test…trying to get in law school and smash on crooked judges… Test was a breeze but god damn I had the most ghetto, most hood fuckin test proctor imaginable. I wish coulda videotaped how hood this chick was. Appearance, demeanor, language, this chick easily been in the goonies with alfamega and company. I’m on the crackberry and bout to hit lake shore drive with a vega of kill in hand and cruise and celebrate so I can’t go into details now but just know I got a muffugin story to tell like biggie to TSS crew lol. This dre album better be ill! Oh yeah, got a business trip to the 504 tomorrow, first time there since 2006, hotel in the quarter, sorta familiar with the area but if any tss crew got reccomendations on weeknight/sunday ish to check (I leave wednesday nite) it’s definitely appreciated…holla holla!
Who the fuck cares about Dr. Dre anyway???
“if you’re a true producer you better have bangaz on deck all the time ”
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every real hiphop head cares about detox. and rumor has it that dude has about 10towers of beats ready to go, he just deems them “not good enough” to put out. you can flood the market with sub par(weezy) or put out solid classics. i choose to listen to classic. and we can go on all day about ppl who bit dre’s style….
dr dre wants perfection for his last album.
critical acclaim and commercial success.
a weak dre beat is sometimes way better
than a great beat by mainstream producer…
itiz wah titiz. hope for the 3rd revolution of hiphop’s sound. beats by dre !
what the fuck is up with this fake gruemsy? stop it man, no ones buyin it.
lol @ Done…
That’s so not Greums… G must be sick or somethin’. he ain’t been on here for a minute, now…
And “Hell No” is obviously Hater Chris in disguise.
As for the list, I dunno…
I’m partial to Crooked I and I’d go for some new D’Angelo, R. Saddiq, Mikkey Halsted… I think Black Thought would be a dope curveball to throw in–he can ride hard with any concept/producer….
You need the Pun to dis you if your whole steez is unofficial
I’ll come and get you and let the desert eez tounge kiss you
With one pistol and two clips, I’ll make your crew do flips
Like acrobatics, I’m charismatic, my gat is magic
It makes rappers disappear, whipser in your ear
Crystal clear, come here, let me kiss your tears
Everything you fear is here, you ain’t got to search further
The first murder’s the worst now I thirst further for reverse birth
Every verse hurts, every curse word’s already more offending
Than Eddie Murph’s worst
I thirst for blood like a vampire, any man claimin’ his game’s tighter
IS A GOD DAMN LIAR!
I set ‘em on fire, retire your train of thought
Drain a quart of blood out your brain and leave you insane in the dark
The king of New York! Lays his crown in the Boogie Down
And sprays the town, with a Mac hoodied down
I’m no joke! (Yuh!!) I soak your face with a sweeper
Dying disgrace, I’ll face your death through the speaker
I ain’t anyone of those people…been up on this site for a minute, just never put my input unless I really feel like it…seriously this is like my 3rd post.
Reason I ain’t feeling the list is cause it’s wack!
Simple and plain….I respect each artist individually, just don’t think they could make Detox a classic or dope for that matter. Crooked is a beast but can’t put out a real album for shit….same with Ortiz! With all that Internet shit they do they still bitchin about they’re situations, fuck trying to get on thru detox…do it they damnselves!
You want Cube in there too?? Get the rest of NWA then…..get Ren, dig Eazy out his grave and tell them to shoot thru the studio,you realize how stupid this sounds right??
What the fuck Short dogg gonna say on detox that he can’t do on his own….? I’m from the Bay and even I don’t wanna hear him on Dre shit.
Why Nate dogg?? That muthafucka a given too!
Seriously…no hating over here, I just call it how I see it….and by the looks of these comments, this site needs some NEW input.
Completely unrelated to this post but I just took my lsat test…trying to get in law school and smash on crooked judges…
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Go for it my ninja. I’m a third year law student about to take the bar in a few months myself.
PEACE HOMIES
cheers BC, thats been irkin me for a good while, this internet anonimity ( and spellin) has its weak points.
and devin could easily replace warren on the list (no hater chris!), outside of production assistance, dude would lessen the jammin-ness altogether.
devin brings everything to the table a west classic needs – weed/party themes, humour, laidback flow, everything that is apart from …. actually being from the actual coast itself, damn.
and aside from joell and a few others, the idea of “everyone hes worked with”, however literally it was meant to be taken, might make this far less west-orientated, which could make this the equivelent of the carter 3 – most anticipated third of a thrilogy, but also most generic, boring and least autentic.
man,stop. your like a really bad elvis impersonator, if the elvis in question was this loveble(no yeezy! on a sidenote, where are you yeezy? this black robot elton john is using your name) eccentric/frenchman/martian/japanese b-boy (who knows?) of very minute internet forum fame.
what do you get out of this nutso impersonation?
it just occurred to me i must be havin an incredibly borin friday to devote so much time to this, but il be damned if i dont post now.
the one and only greums !!!
damn, i got in some e-beef. better stop before we take it to youtube and become just another e-statistic.
there i was, an adult lookin through the comments, when boom- im 14.
^ lol
good read, beware.
yeah, that other list wasn’t too good. rae & ra already tried working wit dre & that ain’t turn out to good.
i wouldn’t mind seeing cube & ren on there, a lil’ reunion. they could have yella take a break from running his porno company & be the DJ.
how about bun-b?
@ KStrick….
Yunno, funny you mention Bun, cuz I was thinking he might sound dope on that shit this afternoon.
Has he ever rapped over an Andre beat?
Ras Kass He’s in Dre’s Fav 5
Listen to what I’s says. 50 and Em are locks for it…if it ever comes out. A healthy sprinkling of Snoop (Probably with Warren and Nate D) is another lock. I definitely think a crew reunion of Dre, Ren and Cube will be on it. Now once we get past the tea-baggin – balls in your face – obvious, the second tier obvious will likely be Raekwon/Ghostace either or likely both. Hov, Kanye, Nas & Wayne are prolly locks too especially since it will be 2011 or so bye the time someone smacks Dre upside the head and says release the shyte before the retirement community van pulls up to the door for you aggin. Likely to be Hov that says that to the while sittin on the porch with B and Dre drinking some country-time spiked with geritol and absynthe. Now for my unlikely but some crazy shyte I’d pay to see…Dilated Peoples any of em or all of them (“grin” O please hip hop god hear my plea). Young Geezy, Joel Ortiz and Killer Mike on the same track might force even non-smokers to light up a cuban (filled with what else…CHRONIC). A Clipse/Dre joint = hot hot heat. Last but not least, I’d pay for this album on the one track alone if Blu with Petey Crack, with Jeff or Premo cuttin were on it (Alright I know the Petey, Jeff and Premo is askin way too much, and I’d still buy it if Blu alone were on a track). Come-on Cali step up and let Dre know he doesn’t have to put Ne-Yo, T-Pain, Cardinal Offishal, Nelly or any other “cat in the hat, candy ass” Shit on this thing! Surprise us Dre and do it right after all this F’in time!!!
Good list,
Here’s a couple more though:
Devin The Dude
W.C
Ras Kass
M.C Eiht
and in the “pure fantasy” section….
G. Rap
M.O.P
Raekwon
GZA
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Peace.
Man, you go offline for a few days and look what happens. This is actually my list: http://yourfavoritewhiteboy.com/2009/02/05/six-guests-that-need-to-be-on-detox. Nappy needs to cut me a Google Ads check.
Weak list? You must be out of your mind. The idea here was to think of artists who would do up a Dre beat properly. A rapper who would work off of Dre’s creativity and take things to a higher level Rae? Kanye?
But if you want to take it back to essentially the original Chronic line up, then that’s on you. But c’mon, man – Warren G? Nate Dogg? 2009 Ice Cube? Its a list that supposed to make a hot list, not be some west coast purists wet dream.
Thanks for the love…but that isn’t our work…we just swiped it from our boy a YFWB.
Good Lookin