The Saga Of The Black Quarterback
AUDIO By David D. on January 9, 2009 at 2:56 pm
As a lifelong New Orleans Saints fan, I’ve become quite accustomed to not having a team to root for this time of year. Though my boys are usually gone by December, I tend to find myself rooting intensely for some team when the playoffs role around — that team is always the one with the Black quarterback. My father went to Dillard University and I was raised near Jackson State University, so we have both been immersed in a culture that has celebrated the Black quarterback. NFL and BCS teams haven’t always been as enthused by the concept; successful, heavily recruited candidates being few and far between, for the most part.
Aside from perhaps the hockey goalie, the Black quarterback is one of the last frontiers of major sports. The fact that the quarterback is responsible for the cerebral field has historically made general managers and coaches hesitant to put the keys in the hands of an African-American who is characterized as merely a instinctual athlete good for running out of the pocket, with questionable accuracy and limited ability to think on his feet.
Doug Williams won the Super Bowl with the Redskins a couple decades ago, but he was dropped from the starting line-up the next season, making his win seem more like a one-time deal than a sign of progression. Then in the late ’90s there seemed to be an influx of Black quarterbacks invading the league. Cunningham almost gave the Vikings a perfect season in 1998 that ended prematurely. McNair led the Titans to within one yard of the Super Bowl victory. By the time Michael Vick rolled through the league, Black QB fever was sweeping the NFL. It seemed apparent that there would be multiple Black quarterbacks that would soon have championship rings in their respective collections.
Suddenly, the Black quarterback bubble burst. Vince Young had his breakdown earlier this season, taking him out of the Titan’s starting line-up so he could watch from the sidelines as his team took the best record in the NFL. Jamarcus Russell is a bust in Oakland. Daunte Culpepper couldn’t get a job for most of the season and when he finally did, he only helped cement the Detroit Lions’ place in the history books. Then of course there’s Michael Vick’s situation. Similar to the stock market, NFL scouting is based on trends and the Black QB’s stock has plummeted over the last year in a way that will be hard to bounce back from.
So I watch the playoffs this year hoping that the long shot, Donovan McNabb will lead the Eagles to an improbable win. Some people may think that I’m living in the past, rooting for a Black quarterback champion in an era with a Black President. And they may be right. Still, I am unashamed and unrelenting in my excitement.
Good luck, Donovan, you may be my last great hope for a long time.
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I have to tip my hat to Warren Moon…Vick could have been the greatest black QB if he kept his nose clean.
Go ravens!!
Bring the Chip Back home…
Fuck the Ravens.
Titans.
As for Black QBs, shoutout to Jefferson Street Joe Gilliam.
“Umi Says 12″
Now all I need is a Jordan commercial to direct…
Co-sign Dirk,
i love, absolutely adored, no homo, Warren Moon he was everything the N.F.L. needed when the L was a dirty game with Linebackers and Safeties leading with their helmets, hitting receivers that didnt have the football, and dragging players by their face mask. He talked with intelligence and maturity, although he only made it to the bowl once or twice, he still kept the utmost respect for the organization and the league.
First of all, Ima PHILLY, hood, nigga, and everyone knows that from my lack of rhetoric. I love the ‘dirty birds’, ’sixers’, ‘fly-boyz’, and of course the world champs but I also hate the choices the management makes…..
When the birds had the chance to win the nfc conference game j.lurie and company decided to take a.j. feely out the playoffs, in place of a injured d.mcnabb, after feely took the birds on a 5-6 game win streak to get into them into the playoffs. Than next season, when mcnabb faked another injury, they decided to replace, than later release, j.garcia for mcnabb only to see the man throwing up in the huddle, during the bowl, throwing passes to the feet of receivers, during the bowl, and not being able to conduct himself inside the huddle, during the bowl, only to see this man start crying after the bowl was over, but than he comes and start asking for more money and they gave it to him….
Ok, Ok, here is my point…..
I understand he is a great (black) qb that can change the game and stretch the defense, but why would you cut players contracts (players with heart, mind you) just to give a raise to a player that hasnt proved consistent, that is injury prone, and that never take his job seriously….Go back and watch important games in mcnabb’s history and I guarantee that everytime he makes a bad pass, mistake, or a bad read he smiling no I dont mean grinning like damn I wish I could get that one back, but smiling from ear-to-ear, than he hunches his shoulders like I will get another paycheck so I dun care….
Im sorry, but if he doesnt come thru this year…the year we seen history being made by a black man, and the year the phillies finally win a chip… we may have to visit this nigga crib camby style!!
Gotty,
Joe Gilliam was dope. (FYI: Remember “Joi” former singer/gf of Big Gipp? She’s Joe Gilliam’s daughter.)
I remember when Joe Gilliam died… Terry Bradshaw was new to Fox Sports and when they announced it, he said, “Had Pittsburgh treated him fairly, I probably would’ve never played because Joe Gilliam was better than me.”
The whole studio went Jo-Jo 1:50. He was dead serious.
And right.
The only throwback stuff i own is black memorabilia-related, Josh Gibson/Satchel Page jerseys. And a worn-out Doug Williams jersey which i still rock on ocassion. Doug got screwed; but like D. McNabb (sans that one interview last march) he never complained. Ever.
And don’t get me started on Vick. i tried buying a Vick jersey just to show some support–they pulled everything from everywhere. I had a better chance of coppin’ a brick of pure brown for $20 than I had (have) of getting a Vick jersey.
ps.
cunningham is a class act also, but he played in a time when competition was real and the refs didnt want any parts of players like L.T, Singletary, and D. Thomas so that nigga had to run for his life, but he also could give you a 65-70 yard pass (on the run mind you) with the accuracy being on point, mcnabb losses accuracy when he throws over 30 yards…..
If McNabb was playing any one other than the Giants I would root for him. Philly fans hasn’t given that cat a fair shake yet. When he is gone they will wish they still had him. But the Giants are on a repeat mission and he and his Eagles have to be their 1st victims. GO BLUE
How could I not mention Warren Moon?!?!? Man, I was a huge Warren Moon fan back in the day…had a lil Warren Moon action figure and all dat
Imagine if Warren Moon could have started his career in the NFL, he would have smashed the record books and perhaps won a SB. It was a shame he was on those Oiler teams that would scored 35 and give up 40.
How the fuck I got G’s gravatar?
^ enjoy it for the moment.
Jefferson Street Joe is a legend here (in Nashville) & so is his pops. He went to college @ my alma mater & his pops coached there too. He fell superhard to dope & only managed to turn it around @ the very end, cleaning himself up & even brought on as a coach. I can distinctly remember him humbling around the street he’s named after, begging for change.
And yep, I remember Bradshaw’s words. For all his negatives, he was honored by the local media during his low point, even more once he turned it around & then in full @ his death.
Moon & Randall were THE shit on early football games. Tecmo, Moon used to launch 70 yd passes lol.
Fuck the Ravens.
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So it’s like that, Gotty? (Says the lifetime Ravens fan that goes to University of Delaware)
On a more relevant note I’d go as far as to say black athletes are grossly under represented in hockey in general, pitching, and quarterbacking.
Randall C. used to give the Giants fits when he was with the Eagles. Being a Giant fan couldn’t stand his ass; but respected his game.
YEAH RAVENS!!!! WHOOO!!!
And if it makes you feel any better Troy Smith might get in and he’s black. He would have been out Messiah if he didnt get sick and Flacco didnt become DA MAN!
Remember when Randall would only get into games on 3rd downs and goal line and that was just to run the option? (God forbid anything happen to Ron Jaworski’s overrated, so-footed ass.)
Then Randall would come in, roll out and put it 50 yards down field on a rope or hurdle some cat at the goalline and score untouched.
But Philly loved them some Polish Rifle too much to really embrace Mr. Cee.
Troy Smith will never play QB long as Flacco’s in B-More… Flacco will have to develop a drinking problem like Kerry Collins in order to get benched. Troy Smith is gonna end up being Slash or Antwan Randel El part 2.
But Gotty, glad to hear that Joe G got some luv near the end. They hated his ass while he was playing tho.
Hate ‘em live, love ‘em dead. (or hate ‘em here, love ‘em gone.)
Warren Moon is one of the bess. He deed it.
And Cannonz,
McNabb, like most black QBs, gets a bad rap. If he’s yellin’ and gesturing, then he’s “got an attitude problem”; if he’s smiling and calm, then he “doesn’t care”.
Dude can’t win for breathin.
I remember when he got drafted–they booed him like he was a drug-dealing pedophile or something (shouts to Mark Chamura and Bill “Coach” Romanowski). Philly didn’t then, and doesn’t now want or respect black QBs. period.
He goes to 4 straight NFC Championship games (Only Jim Kelly did this) yet they wanna shop him to the highest bidder after every season?
Eff outta here.
I’m from Chi… When skinheads firebombed McNabb’s house he smiled through it. His family’s just like that. They smile through everything. I wouldn’t but i can’t hate on him for being that way.
Speaking of McNabb…..
I’d sure love to see Donovan don a Bears jersery if Philly is quick to et him go anytime soon…haha!
Ha McNabb, what type of man is gonna blame his problems on someone else, T.O., and use him as a scapegoat for not performing. I dont give a fuck what anybody says no one man can break a team like that. McNabb is a horrible leader and that T.O. shit proved it. He just cried way too much. Having his linemen carry him to snap the ball was cool but that shit was long overlived.
Watch out for JaMarcus Russell though, his arm is unbleievable and he is getting some poise and confidence finally. Then with the running backs the Raiders got, they will be good again one day I know hey will, I pray they will ha
Quick question though. How can we sit here and complain about racism all day, especially with the recent shootings going on, then justify cheering for a player cus he is black. What if whitey said he is cheering for whitey cus he’s white. Come on now.
Aron,
Your points are so absurd they’re round.
For starters, the McNabb bashing began the day Philly drafted him. Secondly, with the exception of T.O. and possibly this year’s receiving crew of D jackson and Chad Curtis, McNabb has been stuck with WRs that couldn’t start for any other team in the league; yet he puts up 3,000/ +15 TD and a 2.5:1 TD to interception ration every single year.
But Philly’s success are given to Andy Reid and Westbrook, while McNabb’s remains blamed for every failure.
Westbrook gets hurt and it’s McNabb’s fault for throwing too many check-downs to BW instead chucking it downfield to receivers that can’t beat an egg with a whisk.
As for T.O.–you’re half right. TO exposed weaknesses in Philly—at the GM/Personnel level. No team wins anything when you’ve only got one topflight receiver. Every team that’s ever won a SB had 2 strong (if not necessarily equally famous/hyped) WRs. Who was on the otherside of TO in Philly? That’s why he saw doubleteams every down because James Trash didn’t scare anybody.
But that’s McNabb’s fault right? Sure.
And again. Why do other QBs get to “lead by example” or be “strong yet silent” but McNabb is called everything from aloof to indifferent to a weak leader?
lastly Aron, there’s a huge difference between affinity/connection and bigotry and ignorance.With all Black folks have been thru there’s a natural affinity to cheer when a black person succeeds even if you don’t know them or like them. Nine times out of ten, a black person’s success is the result of conquering barriers and lack of opportunities that few others face.
We cheer Barack because of what it meant to see the possibility of being black and having a reasonable shot at excellence. For Whites to blindly cheer Bush or Clinton or even Chad Pennington on some “he’s one of us” BS is just blind greed and bigotry. You might as well be saying, “we’re happy because ‘this’ (arena/industry/endeavour, etc) belongs to us and we’re gonna hold onto it, fair or not!”
But keep at it Aron. You’re making the condescending bigots out there mighty proud.
*turns old english autotune down*
@ Cansceo…man, i love how i always count on you to say something about any chicago-related. you make me proud dog! word up, we sure do rep our city so well. same goes to el rosado as well.
@ Cannonz…i respect how u feel, but i’ve said it and will continue to say it..and backup what Canseco said…mcnabb will always get my support because 1) i’m biased…that’s my high school homie and 2) he’s player…fuck what you heard.
and don’t even let me get into the fact that he’s never had any receivers or tight ends (except for the T.O. year…and we saw how far he took yall that year), so please save that “donovan doesn’t play hard” stuff cause it ain’t true. get that cat some better players around him (no diss to westbrook) rather than freddie “coon” mitchell and desean “butter fingers” jackson and then we can talk.
shout to your D though…them boys always bring that heat every game. too bad yall couldn’t convince kearse to stay there and perform like he has done for gotty’s team.
*turns up old english autotune*
i bideth ye all a merry farewell gentlemen…i heareth my nearest pub calleth thy…
I’m not an Eagles fan but I would love for them to win the ship this year. For the simple fact they have Donovan. I co-sign with David D cause he is a black quarterback but it is more than just that for me. Donovan was booed when was drafted. He has been criticized in the media, not just this season, but pretty much his whole career. He has dealt with racism from the media, thrown under the bus by TO after the super bowl. Benched by his coach who is like his second father. He gets slapped on the cheek, turns it and gets slapped on the other side. For him to win the ship would be a BIG FUCK YOU, to all the doubters, critics, media, philly fans (turncoats) and his coach. So Donovan win the ship then bounce on Philly and go to Chicago and on the way out leave a note in your locker saying. “Pucker up bitches, kiss my ass good bye and good luck finding a replacement, assholes, i’m GONE”.. !
@ Aron
Raiders will not have a winning record anytime soon. Russell is not a good qb, what games are you watching? For every 5 steps forward he makes, he takes 15 back. That franchise is in turmoil, players are there for paychecks since winning is not expected.
G-Rich,
big shouts to Chi-town, baby!
Aron’s got his take on stuff, I got mine. I just think he’s a little misinformed.
And yeah, nothing would be better for McNabb to win in Philly then leave for a team (i.e. management/execs) + city + that actually has some respect for the dude’s accomplishments and ability.
@ Black Canseco
Troy Smith is gonna end up being Slash or Antwan Randel El part 2.
I think there’s a lot of truth to that statement. Not because Troy Smith is black, but because Troy Smith doesn’t have nearly the arm Flacco has nor the height, he’s quick as shit, has decent hands, and can make people miss. That sounds more like a WR than a QB to me.
On the whole McNabb situation
I think there’s truth to what everyone is saying. I don’t think McNabb is an outstanding quarterback by any stretch of the imagination. However, the talent McNabb has continually been surrounded with has been subpar at best.
Better teammates not only make better plays for their quarterback, they inspire the quarterback’s confidence. Why else is Donovan dumping off passes at the feet of his wide receivers and hitting Brian Westbrook between the numbers of a check down that goes for a TD?
Donovan doesn’t trust his wide receivers to make plays (why should he?) and feels pressure to make perfect passes which is turn creates mistakes. In contrast, Donovan trusts Brian Westbrook to make plays and is thus less worried about making a perfect pass and more concerned with getting the ball in #36’s hands.
Regardless, here’s to Lil’ Wayne’s prediction of a Ravens – Eagles Superbowl. It would make my day to see that.
GD,
Troy Smith is… i dunno. i just wish the guy hadn’t gotten sick and had the chance to start. Flacco deserves to keep his job based on his performance, so i don’t see Smith gettin’ a shot as a starting QB in B-more.
As for McNabb, we’re talking about a guy who’s gonna exceed 30,000 yds mark and 200 TDs next year. Which will rank above HOFers like Terry Bradshaw, Bob griese, Roger Staubach, and others. (And depending on how deep they get, he could pass those marks this post season.) And baring injury, he’ll end up in the 36-40,000 career range, which could put him in around 6th all time (Vinny Testaverde is 7th @ 40,943 career yeards.)
As for a championship, Marino, Kelly, Esiason, Fouts and bunch other cats don’t have rings, but we don’t hold it against them. And Favre only has 1 along with Trent Dilfer and Jeff Hostetler.
When you look at what DM’s past WRs did on other teams after leaving/before arriving, it’s clear that they didn’t deserve his trust. What have any of them done before or since being an Eagle?
But again, you don’t put up numbers like that in less than 9 years being a mediocre QB. and again he did this in the face of mediocre talent and near beligerent annual criticism.
Troy Smith definately has the arm & acumen to be an NFL quarterback. He (like GD said) lacks the height and thats about it. I always saw him around campus and he’s shorter than me. I’m 6′ something (1 maybe) and dude came a couple inches under me. I was surprised they gave him any burn, but he caught a bad break w/ that mono to begin the season
Every team that’s ever won a SB had 2 strong (if not necessarily equally famous/hyped) WRs.
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Not exactly, Canseco
Patriots Championship squads
Starting recievers
2001
80 Troy Brown
86 David Patten
2003
Deion Branch
Troy Brown
2004
Deion Branch
David Givens
Had to show some Patriots snobbery seeing as though we’re the first 11-win team to miss the playoffs…
OED,
Troy Brown, Branch and Givens were underrated and could’ve started for a lot of teams. They were a good balanced attack that you couldn’t sleep on. When it comes to the Eagles corps, they’ve had WRs that got shut down by their opponents rookie CB or 2nd stringers. Don’t get me wrong, they were professional guys, but they weren’t very good.
Quick where’s James Thrash now? Where’s any of these guys?
this just goes to McNabb’s ability to get it done with guys other teams don’t want which says more about him than them.
@ Black Canseco
I definitely wasn’t saying McNabb was a mediocre QB. He’s a good quarterback. He doesn’t have a lot of support (which holds him back) but he does have one thing that other QBs don’t have: Brian Westbrook (which perhaps inflates his numbers)
Since Brian Westbrook came into the league, Donovan’s numbers have improved nearly across the board. Passer rating, Average yards per play, percentage completion, total yardage, Touchdowns, interceptions, (although he didn’t play all 16 games some seasons which affects these numbers). Generally speaking, McNabb was a better QB after Brian Westbrook came into the league.
Is some of this improvement due to experience? Absolutely. But don’t underestimate the importance of Brian Westbrook in the game. He’s a force to be reckoned with.
Does McNabb have the skill set to be an outstanding/elite quarterback if he had better receivers? I really don’t know. Maybe. It’s really a shame that we’ll never know because he’s getting into the latter stages of his career and still hasn’t been paired with a competent receiver core.
Basically what I’m trying to say is McNabb is a good quarterback. He’s been held back by weak wide receivers his entire career and it’s impressive that he’s put up the numbers throughout his career given his unfortunate situation. However, it’s not like he had no one. Brian Westbrook is one of the best all purpose backs in the league and without him, I don’t think McNabb would still be playing.
(add this to the end of my comment)
nor would he have put up the numbers he’s put up over his career.
The Patriots have/had Kevin Faulk as well who’s basically a slot reciever. He was their 3rd down reciever.
@ BC
Definitely wasn’t disputing the lack of talent in the Eagles corps…
I mean, if they’re a chiseled team of “good” veterans, why were they so dependent upon a rookie receiver who still needs LOTS of refinement to his game and route running…
There is a direct correlation though…
Don’t sleep on what McNabb could do w/ top flight talent….
When Tom Terrific got 2 guys in Welker and Moss, you barely heard any comparisons to Peyton by the end of the year…and I remember before the season starting, all the experts questioned whether Brady could even get the ball to Moss on the deep ball.
Seems almost silly in retrospect….
McNabb’s always been stifled by the lack of talent around him, and Andy Reid’s play-calling.
black people are still goin hard in the sport nobody in the u.s. cares about: soccer.
yeah, yeah, yeah… nobody cares, i know.
black athletes ftw!
OED
points made, sir. can’t argue with much of anything you said.
Weezy, i actually dig soccer. In terms of access, opportunity and fairness, it might be the best sport for everyone.
Problem with soccer is internationally, it’s a poor man’s game. You play soccer barefoot on dirt roads and try to split trees and trashcans, if need be. Soccer allows every cat from every background a crack at it.
But here in the states, soccer is still a white kid’s suburbanite game. It’s a babysitter for all the Soccermoms who didn’t swallow when they had the chance and now want a play date for little tow-headed Kyle + Carol while they go shopping.
In Chi, brothas and latinos dug soccer but you get hustled into believing you need a fancy jersey, a fancy field and some fancy shoes and coaching to play it. Meanwhile, some Nigerian kid has tied crap-stained pieces of cardboard to his feet and is spending his youth dribbling a trash-filled sackcloth across broken glass in his village just because no one’s told him “no”.
That same Nigerian kid will get snatched up and fitted when he’s 15 for an amateur team, while the black kid in the states will switch to basketball or football because he’s sick of the suburbanite structure telling him he doesn’t belong out here without “the proper equipment”.
One of the best things about increased diversity is all these international cultures coming here and going, “soccer’s for everybody; so get over it, already.”
By 2020, Soccer will be the 2nd most popular sport in the US behind Hoops. Word to me.
I can see that BC.
I played in school and it’s definately the first sport kids are playing nowadays.
@ BC
You’re absolutely right. Growing up my parents had to hustle extra hard to get the dough needed for me to play top-level soccer. Even that wasn’t enough and it took scholarships (even during middle school and high school) to keep me at that level. When you get up to elite-level soccer at that age it’s 90% wealthy kids and 10% hustlers who have to do fund raisers, work extra jobs and do whatever else it takes to continue the sport. If you don’t have the will or the way, most of us (American Black kids) end up dropping the sport by early teens.
It doesn’t help that like basketball, the fresh gear is the expensive gear. The only problem is you can’t rock $180 soccer shoes to school the day after a game.
weezy,
the other thing about money is you really don’t “need” money to play basketball. it’s a ball and 2 goals, just like soccer.
i think what got people was the land–the concept of needing manicured fields to play soccer doesn’t apply to any country but this one. like i said, overseas, they’ll play on cement, gravel whatever… but here, people start feeding u a bunch of BS when you’re like 9 years old… plus soccer gear ain’t “cool”… not yet at least.
No mention of Jason Campbell…Even if he do look like Lionel Richie he is still representin, I think Campbell will be the 1st of the next gen black quarterbacks to win a Superbowl.
I wish Donovan the best this year even though his whole “I didn’t know a game could end in a tie” statement set black quarterbacks back YEARS, and prolly brought a big smile to Rush Limbaugh’s face.
LMAO @ Thugnificence’s comment about how Jason Campbell looks like Lionel Richie.
BC
there’s a company called concrete2green whose aim is to grow soccer in urban areas (specifically with african-american youth) in the u.s. they’re doing events around the country and building indoor soccer courts nationwide to make soccer as accessible to urban youth as basketball is.
http://www.concrete2green.blogspot.com/
if this idea can catch on, we might be able to change soccer’s image in this country.
plus, i stay fresh with my soccer track jackets and forces, lol.
This write up really got me thinking. What actually defines/makes an outstanding quarterback?
Of course you’ve got the tangible shit. The stats you can look up on NFL.com (passer rating, touchdowns, interceptions, yardage, percentage completion ). That’s all important in defining an outstanding quarterback.
Then of course the issue discussed at length earlier: personnel (both teammates and coaches)
But I think the thing that keeps good quarterbacks from great quarterbacks is more intangible:
1. Timing (not only in decision making but in playing well when it’s absolutely imperative)
2. Support (not only from teammates and coaches, but fans as well)
3. Ability to motivate (whether by example or through direct leadership)
4. Consistency
5. Durability
McNabb’s timing is questionable. Losing to Cinci? That was bad timing. Miraculously making the playoffs at the end of the season? Good timing.
Support? I’m not even going to get into Philly’s support for their professional sports teams.
Ability to motivate? If one uses T.O.’s tenure in Philly as a reference, then McNabb’s isn’t so great. But then again, T.O.’s a fucker anywhere so that’s not the best litmus test for that ability.
Consistency? McNabb’s consistency isn’t the best for one major reason:
Durability? McNabb’s played a full 16 game season 4 times with 10 seasons under his belt. Hard to have consistency when faced with this.
So yeah, perhaps McNabb would be a better quarterback with better personnel (I’m looking at you Andy Reid/Eagle WRs), but I don’t think that’s the only thing holding him back from reaching his full potential.
Ok. Now I’m done.
^^
Thank you GD, for finally coming with ‘FACTS’, thats all I ask….. and yes all you chi-natives are being bias!!
Black Canseco says:
I’m from Chi… When skinheads firebombed McNabb’s house he smiled through it. His family’s just like that. They smile through everything. I wouldn’t but i can’t hate on him for being that way.
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Never knew that, and I will watch what I say about families and such….But as a Qb. (even when he was at Syracuse) he never amount to anything, and comparing him to jim kelly isnt a plus (coming from a huge 90’s bills fans) they both lack whats needed to be a winner: confidence in their teammates, a authoritative voice in the huddle/locker room win or lose!….c’mon we talking about a man that rather go to the post game interview before he addresses his teammates!! Thats just plain lack of leadership….
Secondly, with the exception of T.O. and possibly this year’s receiving crew of D jackson and Chad Curtis, McNabb has been stuck with WRs that couldn’t start for any other team in the league; yet he puts up 3,000/ +15 TD and a 2.5:1 TD to interception ration every single year.
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And Mcnabb is the one that wanted receivers like stinkson (todd pinkston) etc….he pressed upper-management to make unprofessional choices.
ps.
We use to hate that shit, we wanted romanowski out after he win the SB and he started to get injured until the birds would get down inside the 30 yard line or so than he would come back into the game like a survivor or some type of messiah sort of like mcfag, oops that was wrong), “fukka outta here, keep cunningham!!”
ghostdini rich says:
and don’t even let me get into the fact that he’s never had any receivers or tight ends (except for the T.O. year…and we saw how far he took yall that year), so please save that “donovan doesn’t play hard” stuff cause it ain’t true
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Sorry my nig, but when you are at the top position at any sport that includes the responsibility of making players around you better and thats a attribute Mcnabb dont and cant possess.
ps.
James Thrash was a starter on other teams and thats who helped mcnabb stats, from catching a twelve yard pass from mcnabb he would stretch it to a 18-25 yard play with his speed and running ability.
California”Hollywood Sloan”Soul says:
For him to win the ship would be a BIG FUCK YOU, to all the doubters, critics, media, philly fans (turncoats) and his coach. So Donovan win the ship then bounce on Philly and go to Chicago and on the way out leave a note in your locker saying. “Pucker up bitches, kiss my ass good bye and good luck finding a replacement, assholes, i’m GONE”.!!
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BLAH,BLAH,BLAH….I hope he does, i really wish him the utmost luck, but its not going to be mcnabb that wins the chip….I believe westbrook deserves being on the pinnacle for the simple fact that he didnt get a CHANCE in hell to start in the L, after a stellar season at villanova university (a local PHILLY suburb college), he had to not only sit (matter fact ride) the pine until niggaz started to get injured, but he had to hear his own management (niggaz that drafted him and mcFAG, oops there i go again) tell him he was to short and small to play 30 snaps a game, now look at the lil nig killing it (barry style) everytime he touches the rock (35-40 times a game). And he is a superb teammate/leader in the locker room!!
OED aka Shoe T’Quille says:
Don’t sleep on what McNabb could do w/ top flight talent….
When Tom Terrific got 2 guys in Welker and Moss, you barely heard any comparisons to Peyton by the end of the year
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The Eagles had a chance to get Moss, but Mcnabb didnt want to take that pay cut, and he thought randy was to much of free-spirit (with the weed smookin) to be on the same team…
in conclusion….
So yes; us PHILLY sports fans are hard on our black athletes because its a predominately black city, besides tha jews in the northeast, and the m.o.b. running shit all over the city. So yes when we our owners get a chance to draft a high priced black athelete the management is going to do anything they can to get him, but us as fans really look at the big picture….Ricky would have been a perfect fit back in 99 or 2000, we had A.I. (another gangsta, weed smoking nigga) killing shit in the A, while skipping practice…It would have been like a love story in PHI!!
I understand completely. I’ve caught myself rooting for Tavaris Jackson when logic says he’s a backup that needs serious grooming. Some days I feel like that Chapelle SHow skit where his blackness won’t allow him to convivt OJ
^^^ I love me some Tarvaris, I can’t believe he wasn’t mention in the article. I’m from MN and I’ve never seen a QB more unfairly criticized by both the media and fans than T-Jack. I really think it has something to do with race, as everybody who rips on him says that he’s “not smart enough”. People talk about him like he has no talent and shouldn’t even be on an NFL roster. He’s not great yet, but he has ridiculous skills. Fast as shit with a rocket arm, and he can be very accurate when he has time. Unfortunately he just caves under pressure and struggles against the blitz. He’s probably not ready yet; another season on the bench behind Garcia or McNabb would do him well. But when he does get there, he will be a TERROR.
And why no mention of Kordell Stewart? Dude was my childhood idol, and he was another overly criticized black QB. He did have his struggles, no doubt, but when he was on he could make defenses look straight up SILLY.
And oh yeah, Jamarcus isn’t necessarily a bust yet. He definitely seemed to make strides towards the end of the season. He’s got the tools obviously, he just needs grooming.
Everybody seems to be so impatient with young quarterbacks nowadays, even the white ones. People forget that even the greatest QBs of all time took a few years before they truly became good QBs. Bradshaw, Elway, that fuck Aikman, both Mannings (even though Peyton really only had one bad season, whereas Eli was inconsistent for three and a half). The only ones who didn’t were Marino and Roethlisberger (although I don’t necessarily consider Big Ben to be among the greats, yet). Every single team and their fans have a “win now” mentality every year even though that isn’t realistic.