Have you ever been in a situation where a pending issue has been driving you crazy, but the topic is risque and you don’t want to embarrass yourself by asking anyone? Well, obviously, I have. And since I’m way past the point where I care what you bootleggers think, I’m asking y’all a question that’s been pestering me since I began listening to female-degrading raps more than ten years ago.
Why is it that I’ve heard numerous male rappers use the term “cock” when referencing a girl’s nanner?
No, I’m not crazy. This happens. Often.
“I got them bitches on the corner selling cock (selling cock),” the late Pimp C proudly professes in “Pimp Life.” On 2Pac’s sexually-driven “I’d Ratha Be Ya,” Richie Rich can’t wait to “stretch out the cock.” When the fellas of 2 Live Crew are asked what they like in their love song “H.B.C.,” they adamantly shout back, “Head, Booty and Cock!”
From Mack 10 to the original player himself, Too Short, the list goes on and on.
I know rappers create slang & alter the meaning of words, but this is just confusing.
We’ve seen enough porn to know that calling the Vagine © Borat a ‘cock’ is like calling an apple an orange. So why, and at what point, did this genitalia nickname switch become commonplace? Without getting graphic, is there a back story that I missed in my middle school Wellness class? Why are rappers, who are known to be more homophobic than most, yapping about beating up “cock”?
If you can clear up any of these questions, it would be appreciated, as it’d free up the tiny piece of my brain that has pondering this conundrum for years. I know someone can help. Based on all the rappers I’ve heard drop the C-bomb, there’s no way y’all haven’t heard this before.
You just didn’t wanna ask anyone.
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lol @ that pic.
y’know, Beware, I’ve always wondered that myself. never made sense.
I’m glad you threw that question out there.
I’m thainkin’ it’s gonna take someone deeply rooted in the ghetto streets to decipher this one
i forgot who said it in his rap, but when I heard “She got some bomb-ass cock…”
needless to say, I was like, “What the fuck..?”
Maybe it’s a regional thing, or dialect, but I can’t recall ever using “cock” in my daily vernacular lol. Every blue moon I’ll disparagingly call someone a “cocksucker” but only when I’m feelin real Tony Soprano-ish about the situation & ready to bash somebody’s head w/a hammer.
as much profanity as I use, “cock” is just not a word in my curse word repertoire…
the word “cock”, the way it’s meant to be used, I think is primarily used by white boys…corny as fuck
I agree with Gotty I think kit’s a Regional thing….I always thought Cock’s belonged to male (I guess it’s somehow associated with a male chicken…rooster being a cock…I don’t know) But, when I went to college I remember distictively hearing this dude form Philly talking about hittin’ some cock..
I understood what he meant but it did puzzzle me. After that..I heard it used both ways (no homo)
“You just didn’t wanna ask anyone.”
^ lol
I’m just not around that element enough, and when I am, the opportunity doesn’t present itself…it’s never been at the forefront of my mind constantly where I’d be pressed enough to walk up to another gangster-looking dude and be like, “Pardon me, but why did Pimp C use the word COCK when he was really talking about PUSSY? What part of the slang game is that? Huh?”
Hittin’ cock…ew
Word association:
Cock?
Things that white people say.
I posted this before for “wtf” reasons, but I’m doing it again….
(cause I’m an e-thug)
http://www.trishbennett.net/jtk/episodes/whatare/walgmo197.JPG
^ LOLOLOLOL
“Word association:
Cock?
Things that white people say.”
^ zactly
hehe, even in the most vulgar of company, if you say “this cocksucker” everybody will pause for a second.
No disrespect to anyone’s region, Pimp C, or whom-the fcuk-ever, but there’s just too many words in the English language for any overlapping type of confusion when it comes to this subject.
Yeah, G…
c-sucker’s harsh…you say that, and them’s fighting words, in the same way the “other” c-word (that rhymes with bunt) will NEVER go over well in reference to a female.
there’s no coming back from that…no pun
let’s just throw the usage of “cunt” in there as well.
Some words just don’t fit the jargon of anywhere minus porn lol.
white people have to be pretty angry to get to the point where they say “cocksucker”
like, I’ll kirk out and fly off the handle, and I’ll use every vulgarity in the world BUT cock
I think we can add Cunt as well to the Word association list…of “things that white people say”
I once heard this homeless chick say “Pig Snatch!” in some pseudo Tourette’s-driven fit
“Maybe it’s a regional thing, or dialect, but I can’t recall ever using “cock” in my daily vernacular”
I think you’re right Gotty, no one around here in Jersey refers to the vagine as “cock” but I’ve heard some suspect verses – can’t think off the top of my head – that I heard and I was like “ummm why did you just call pussy ‘cock’?”
I wish I had an explanation, but I’m comin up empty.
*SMH*
I happen to use the word “Cunt” an awful lot, but never in female company. Might be the “British” in me.
hahaha @ this whole conversation…but on the real, I’ve been with chicks that use the word “cock,” (i.e. “gimme that cock”) tryin to be all sexy…it always makes me pause like “…the fuck? you do porn? Maybe we should wait a while so I can do a quick google search of your name and possible porn aliases”
And y’know, as a guy, you can’t be like “ummm…please don’t use that word around me, it makes me uncomfortable” But on the real, that word ain’t ever got me in the mood.
And “cunt,” I remember this chick storming into a party and just talking shit about some other girl. Everyone was on her side while she threw out all kind of “herpes havin heffa” and “stank coochie slut” and even a “I hope her momma die!” Everyone was laughing it up till she was like “stupid cunt!” Then folks were like “…hey, maybe you should cool it down, take a minute. You’re getting too worked up and crossing the line, there.”
Whew, glad I could tell those stories…off to Church!
@ Keri Hilson’s Future Baby Daddy is Teef
- You’re turning into a beer geek homie…lol ….That Worldwide Stout is no joke. That beer is pretty rare. It is brewed on a very limited basis..The Beer Geeks will search out beers like the Sneakerhead will search for sneaks..Many of the Dogfish Head beers are both high in alcohol and in price. They have another one called Old School Barley Wine. it will fuck you up…Dogfish is one of the beers that I rep, so I get to try them all. You like the Hoppy beers or the Malty beers more?
Some other rare seasonals to look out for would be….Hair of the Dog- Doggy Claws, Anchor- Our Special Ale, Delierum Noel, Stone Double Bastard, Great Divide Hibernation Ale, Anything from Russian River, Dogfish 120 min IPA…just to name a few…sounds like you go to a store with a good selection of rare beers….You most definately moved way up from that Stella swill!!!
I’ve her Devin the Dude use it a few times. I can only remember once hearing somebody saying, “I’m bout to get into some cock”.
Had to pick up a bitch that wanted to give me the cock
-Devin the Dude
I ain’t say that he said that!
this post invokes a quadruple pause
Cocksucker gets used on the regular up here. Douche Bag as well..
What’s the difference btw Jelly and Jam?
I don’t jelly my cock down her throat…lol
*heard
@ Doug…
it’s funny though…you say “cunt” to any woman of any race and it goes over just the same.
That shit triggers a reaction in a section of the brain scientists probably can’t pinpoint.
You could say it to a female in Guam who didn’t even speak English, and probably still end up brawling.
I’ve been with chicks that use the word “cock,” (i.e. “gimme that cock”) tryin to be all sexy…it always makes me pause like “…the fuck? you do porn?
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LMAO
I’ve heard that and thought the same.damn.thing, and then went on to think she’s trying wayyy too hard to be dirty.
I’m glad we’re fucking talking shit about cocks and cunts on The Day Of The Lord
@ NDiamonds – I probably have developed a preference for hoppy beers at this point
what up folks…the term isn’t ‘cock’
but ‘cot’..as in a place to rest.
lol, O rly?
lol..yeah Gotty..I’ve thought about that
ish myself down here in the ‘H’..hearing
Bun and the rest of the heavyweights speak
on ‘cat’. It’s ‘Cot’.
Not the first time this has come up in convo.
I really turned a head when I heard Ice Cube on “We be Clubbin” say the same thing
that picture reminds me of of this gem:
http://i36.tinypic.com/214uiig.jpg
Before I ever heard our favorite rappers describe that certain part of the female anatomy as “cock”, I heard an 86 year old friend of mine use the term. Quite frequently too, I might add. While I’m from Georgia, and he’s originally from Alabama, I’m thinking it’s more of a generational thing than a geographical thing. I’m afraid it’s slang such as “word”, “fresh”, and “jive turkey” that has all but fallen by the wayside. So with that said, I think I’ll dedicate the rest of the day to day, to resurrecting “jive turkey”.
Peace out you cock sniffing jive turkeys!
my homie from the bay was always playin shit where i heard these questionable lines…too short, and devin do say it many times
he said it was some old-school pimp shit to refer to hoe’s and their pussy as ‘cot’
i never hear niggas really say “she sucked my cock” but white boys often use this term.
i think the confusion arose from these two separate groups, and white boys often say this shit in films, so it has entered the nigga lexicon but i still don’t think it is a word niggas actively use to refer to their dicks, yet.
but yeah, i been like wtf? when i heard that shit myself
niggas should just dead it and leave no confusion.
The word “cock” is funny to some, offensive to others. I remember having a debate in english class with some chick over whether it was a slang or a prejorative; pretty much the same.
ps: I laugh my ass off when a chick says “give me that cock”!!! lol!!! You’ve never heard the term properly until a British girl says it to you, funny as a ma’fucka.
lol
ahah @ the picture.
reminds me that article : http://www.cracked.com/article_16158_11-most-unintentionally-gay-rap-lyrics-ever.html
Only people I’ve known to use the work “Cock” are pimps & wannabe pimps. And white boys lol.
I reserve the right to use “Cunt” only in the worst of circumstances. There’s no coming back after calling a chick a “Cunt” lol.
And that one is especially for you Gotty :
http://www.cracked.com/article_16158_11-most-unintentionally-gay-rap-lyrics-ever.html
The whole thing is shitty, but the #7 spot..mmh. lol.
always wondered too. i feel better now that noone’s been able to definitively answer.
on a similar note:
why “llama”?
^ Camel Toe?
was definitely a questionable ass line in the coughee brothaz’ “rize and shine” bout “the condition i put the cock in” that made me do a fuckin doubletake
Lol @ Columbus’ own Chuck Strickler making TSS. He famous now.
“I laugh my ass off when a chick says “give me that cock”!!! lol!!! You’ve never heard the term properly until a British girl says it to you, funny as a ma’fucka.”
LOL that’s on some porno ish right there
it meant pussy until I went to a predominantly white high school, and I was like “why are yawl calling dick cock”
ooh lawd, i swear, some days, i need to go to church after reading TSS. Now listen up you jive turkeys:
this madness is a by product of unintentional homoeroticism, overrated lyricism and kickin’ it with white folks too much.
You’re hard-pressed to ever hear a brother talking about cock. Being from the south and rural, i think the deal was cocks (roosters) were up at the crack of dawn; and somehow, “cock” became slang for “morning wood” and then just bein’ hard all the time. stupid, but that’s the best i can do on Sunday when i should have my face in a bible instead messin’ with y’all degenerates. (lol!)
let’s be real there’s a lot of DL cats in the game and some of their personal seeps into their art intentionally or otherwise. On one of my all time favorite joints The Militia remix with WC, Rakim and Guru, Dub-C spits “me and my eastcoast sistahs gettin’ together rappin’”
Every time i hear that i think “but it’s just guys. when did ‘sistahs’ become slang for grown men? Is Dub tryin’ to tell us somethin’ here?”
Even Freddie Foxx, on an earlier Militia remix, in talking about how tough he is goes, “Gloria Gaynor on you Muthas—I will survive!” Now. I know Freddie’s hard. But “gloria gaynor”? that’s your thugged-out metaphor? the joint from all the disco clubs and the anthem of every Will&Grace actin’ queen in america to this day? that’s your middle finger to wack emcees?”
So you get a lot of cats tryin’ to be tough or sexy and it just comes off as… well… gay.
And i’m sory, but as someone noted earlier, i grew up in all-black hoods on the south and westsides of chicago and got fam all over the mason-dixon line… there are 2 words i neva-eva-eva heard in my entire life till i started going to school with white kids: cock and -unt.
white girls would call each other -unts when they got pissed. white dudes would call white girls -unts when they wouldn’t give up the booty. i don’t think sistahs even knew what a “-unt” was until recently…
the 1st time I heard a male refer to a females genitalia as a “cock” was when Pimpin’ Ken said it in Pimps Up Hoes Down.
He said and I quote:
“Make the money fall out her cock into a pimp’s sock…”
lol my favorite is from phonte “…. wanna come in my face,
fuck that tofu I need a pork chop on my plate”
Might be the “British” in me.
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I never heard cock used to talk about the cat; that’s just ass backwards!!
lol
@ PB and Black Cans..
Thanks for trying to help clean this mess up. I still don’t know tho. I dont know if well ever get a definitive answer.
@Micah…
“Make the money fall out her cock into a pimp’s sock…”
Awesome.
@ Everyone else…
What the hell are you guys talking about anyways??? Cock and Cunt? Its Sunday. Who the hell started this disgusting thread anyways??
I’ve wondered too. I think it was in a penthouse players song where I heard the term “cotton patch”, possibly “cot” is derived from that?
Sighhhh
It is a term used for both mostly found in the late 70′s – early 80′s “blue literature. AKA those lil books you used to find in adult bookstores.
if you watch porn films from that era the term was very interchangeable, The rapper’s you named Too Short, Pimp C, and Freddie Foxxx all came from that same era of those books and also of listening to Redd Foxx and Lawanda Paige (Aunt Ester was REAL raunchy).
The term wasn’t so much regional as it is/was generational. this is a term for some one that is/was considered too old to be listening to rap … in 1998. This does not mean all early 40 dudes use the term with hermaphroditic (spell check the rescue) meanings, just that you should not be shocked to hear it in earlier works.
That said anyone using it these days needs to upgrade their vocab
this is so hilarious! I was shocked the first time I heard “cock” come out of Pimp C’s mouth as well….no homo…HA!
I was like wait….then I had to rewind to make sure I heard what I thought I heard…and like Gotty said, I thought I was a Texas thing…but I didn’t even know they said it in Cali, or Philly. I’m lost….
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Not having read all of the above, but when it’s a female, I don’t know if it’s “cock” or “cot” (as in something to lay in). I do know though that it is not new because I got the best of Rudy Ray Moore aka Dolemite (probably got it from here) and he says “gotta get me some of that good hot cot/cock” a few times….
I always get all creeped out when people start on that whole “Now you know theres a lot of closet gays in hip hop” path.
I never found any reason to care about a rapper’s sexual orientation, i dunnno.. guess I’m in the minority there.
The only thing sad about it is that we could have some totally amazing gay rapper who wouldn’t ever be able to be truthful about his sexual experiences on record (Because, you know…all other rappers are totally serious when describing their sexual escapades) because of the absurdly homophobic lean of the hip-hop fanbase.
All I really got to say is, I’m a 1st grade teacher, and the brightest/most emotionally well adjusted/most engaged polite child (lil white girl this year, lil chunky brother last year) in my class this year as well as last are both being raised by homosexual male couples.
A lot of my kids are raised by parents who couldn’t give less of a shit if you paid them, with my experiences, I find it frustrating that the right wing bemoans homosexuals for their lack of family values when the 2 kids I’ve had with gay parents so clearly had a better home support system in place than probably 90% of the other children I’ve taught over the past 5 years.
Maybe things are different in better parts of town where 60% of the kids don’t come from broken homes, but considering the divorce rate is 50% nationwide, I can’t see the grass being much greener anywhere.
Granted, gay parents are always going to come out looking better on average as they have to go through the whole adoption process and show a consistent willingness to be suitable parents whereas almost 50% of reported pregnancies are unplanned.
Just be tolerant. These folks are tryin to live just like you.
ps- I feel like “Cot” make more sense, but I’m listening to some Pimp C and some Devin today, and good lord I swear they’re saying cock. Mysteries!