(C)Rank It! – The Hook Edition
GENERAL By MZ on December 12, 2008 at 9:20 pm
In my opinion nobody is seeing Nate when it comes to hooks.
But based on their run within the past three to four years I can see where someone would be justified in throwing Akon or T-Pain’s name in the mix, especially with Hip-Hop not being the best genre at remembering people once they’re out the public eye. Sadly, with Nate having been out of the mix due to health reasons the past few years, is all he’s done remembered by the casual fan?
Here’s Akon’s take on the issue:
“I mean it depends on what you consider to be a hook man,” Kon told XXLMag.com. ”Nate, I don’t think he’s any competition to what we’re doing right now. The West Coast, which was incredibly hot, there wasn’t nobody touching Nate Dogg at that time. I was around at that time. It wasn’t no getting through them doors.
“Nate had it locked down,” Kon continued. “But I think as time started changing, I slowly took over because I came with more than just a hook. I came and gave you the song itself. When you came to Akon for a record, you’ll get the record, you’ll the track, you’ll get the song and the concept for it.”But when it comes down to best hook man off all time, Kon gives it up to his own signee, T-Pain.
“If I had to give it personally to anybody, I would give it to T-Pain,” Kon revealed. ”I always looked at him as someone that can add a lot of color to someone’s record. I do it a lot of different ways, but I’m always thinking business when I’m doing it. Pain is doing it for the fun of it. I strategize differently. I do it according to what territories I need to take over. Pain does it just cause he loves to do it.”
Personally, I think Akon is welcome to believe whatever he wants. When the reels stop recording, neither of them are seeing Nate. Closing in on twenty years in the game, he’s been apart of countless classic songs to make up for his lesser output over the last few years. Sure Akon & T-Pain may produce and craft the whole song – but that’s the same reason why a lot of their songs sound the same. Nate lent his voice to West, Coast, Midwest & South Coasts song with equal aplomb, seamlessly blending into the track and not the other way around.
Now if Akon was talking about solo success as well, I might consider one of them over Nate. But based on the merits of just hooks, it’s Nate hands down to me.
I welcome your opinions.
Previously Posted — “As Told To” – DJ Steve1der’s Nate In ‘08 Mix
Posted in GENERAL — Tags: Akon, Best Hook Singer, Nate Dogg, T-Pain, XXL
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“Nate, I don’t think he’s any competition to what we’re doing right now”
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Yep, and what they’re “doing” right now is Pop Music, plain and simple…
I don’t abhor T-Pain as much as I once did… his new albums gotten some play, and some cuts are even decent, but anything sung that requires that much electrical input is gonna come out the ‘the other end’ sounding sanitized lol…
Nate had/has a bluesy, gritty, soul aspect to his voice that the makers of the autotune apparatus haven’t programmed into it yet.
Yep, and what they’re “doing” right now is Pop Music, plain and simple…
@OED – agreed, there is a big difference between making pop songs, and being one of the most recognizable voices of the past 20 years on countless gangsta rap classics.
‘IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII cant be faded…….’
“I’m a nigga from the motherfuckkkkinnnnn streeeeeetttssssss”
^ ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nate is solidified~! They caint fuk wit dude…..
Okay, I’m done.
Noboooodddyyy…Does it betteeeeer!
Charles Hamilton (If that’s even his real name hehehe)-Word? Aight!
http://www.zshare.net/audio/526527453580dedc/
Noboooodddyyy…Does it betteeeeer!
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exactly what I was gunna say lol, was just bumpin this in the whip like 30 mins ago.
I respect opinions and all, but you trippin if you think t-pain should even be compared to nate.
i fux with pain… but that nate and freeway all my life brings chills to mah spine everytime i hear that shit..
shameless plug A.T Language Artz over bust ya windows he did it b4 skillz jus didnt hav the outlet..
http://www.zshare.net/audio/523171813d935c30/
Hold up…
Waaaaaiitt
Nate don’t need no damn Auto Tune
Nate was never in love with no damn stripper
“The next stop is the Eastsiiiiide Hoteeeeeeeell!”
Oh No
Niggas ain’t scared to hustle
It’s been seven days, the same clothes
Ask them originals cause they know
Mos Def, Nate Dogg, and Pharoahe
Step away from the mic they too cold
The funk might fracture your nose
Nate dogg homey….FTW
Smoke weed everyday
“I was at the park one day
That’s when I saw her face
She looked kinda catty to meeeeeee
But when I take her home
And tap that ass I’m gone
I’m just a dog don’t blame meeeeeeee”
Plain, simple, and easy…….. Nate Dogg.
Case closed and move on…..
“…next stop is the EASTSIIIIIIIIIIIDE MOTELLLLLL!!!”
^ LOL!
“You don’t wanna fcuk wit meeeEeeeeeee”
I wonder what Darth Vader on Auto Tune would sound like
Betta Lay Low!!!
Nate all day everyday
“all my life I’m gonna be…lovin dough, chasin
hoes, smokin dro… yeah yeah yeah”
Nate damn near INVENTED the hook for hip-hop tracks.
Two many 2 name.
In the words of Slick Rick the Ruler.
“There is no competition!”
Nate was always saingin about the consequences and repercussions of crossing him and his motherfucking crew. But he crooned his warnings and that sing-songy appeal lulled you into sort of a false sense of security. His hooks sounded so damn good you’d be like, “Damn, his hooks sound so damn good, but I don’t think he really be doing that shit he be saingin ’bout. Lemme test this fool.”
Then bam.
Alla y’all posting here, including myself, been knocked the fuck out by that motherfucker.
Anybody check C. Ham’s “Soulja Boy diss” up there?
Kinda funny.
i cant believe this is even a reasonable question…
i may be a biased west coaster but everybody knows that Nate holds the hook crown
T-Pain got the potential to surpass Nate though. Only thing is autotune is his achillies. Pain got some jamming ass shit folk. He not on Nate level yet, but he getting there. Akon is trash to me.
Nah, I can’t really hate on Akon or Teddy Pain, I fucks with them two, they just need to recognize who they daddy is, like Estelle’s NEW TEEF…”Boy, come get me a glass of water and the remote!”
Common :: Universal Mind Control
G.O.O.D. Music/Geffen
Author: Jesal ‘Jay Soul’ Padania
The following excerpts may have been stolen and transcribed from Common’s Dictaphone. Everything recorded was supposed to make up his forthcoming unofficial auto-fictional-biography, entitled “Common: I Used To Love H.E.R (But Now I Am Realising My True Dream Of Being A Bit-Part Hollywood Actor).”
JANUARY: “Thinking back on my childhood, hippity-hop was really only a minor player. I mean, I used to be a pretty shit hot basketball player, actually. I could drink like a motherfucker, too. But, honestly? It was always the lure of the silver screen that attracted me most… I remember sneaking into the cinema during matinee shows – my friends would go and watch the Saturday cartoons, but I was watching ‘Scarface.’ I remember it so clearly, this epiphany moment, studying F. Murray Abraham’s glorious bit-part rendition of Omar Suarez… Fuck Al Pacino, I knew at that PRECISE MOMENT that I would end up being the greatest bit-part Hollywood actor of all-time. Top five dead or alive… Good times… Then that bastard Abraham went and won on Oscar the next year. Sell-out. LIL KANYE! Clear my schedule for the next 48 hours – I feel good, ya little bitch! I think I might release another album this summer!”
FEBRUARY: “Lil Kanye is stuck on his Pac-Man machine. Poor guy… He ain’t in the zone to make music for me. So I’ma holla at The Neptunes. I feel good!! I feel like making some club music, make the kids dance, woo hoo!! I’m gonna release it this summer. I feel invincible… That’s it! Call it ‘Invincible Summer’ and fill it with club-bangers! A June release coincides perfectly with the summer blockbuster season, so I can do a couple of days of promo for the album in between takes on my new TERMINATOR movie motherfuckers!! I”LL BE BACK.”
MARCH: “It turns out that I was supposed to have 25 pages of lines for the new Terminator film, but since that interferes with my grand scheme of becoming the greatest bit-part actor of all time, I managed to negotiate a 22 page cut. Also, I was thinking that maybe I should take the feel of the album back to when the original Terminator shit came out, when Dick Miller ripped it up as the Pawnshop Clerk… You know, that Afrika Bambaataa feel… That should be a nice current sound for the clubs to bump to. In fact, that was the last time I went to a club, ‘84. PHARRELL, ya hairless bitch, make me a beat, and a soya coffee too! NOW. I need to walk the dog before my yoga session.”
APRIL: “I love filming. You sit in make-up for 3 hours, go on set for about 20 minutes, then you’re free to fuck the extras the rest of the day. I’ve fucked 3 so far – today, that is… I should write a song called ‘Sex 4 Suga’ for my new, slightly delayed ‘Invincible Autumn’ album.”
MAY: “I heard one of the extras listening to some cat called Notorious Biggie, just before I fucked her and all. He was from the post-Terminator 2 era of hippity-hop. Actually, technically, so was I. Had a lot of blackouts back then, hazy memoirs. I think I’ll make a track like him – if I dress it up as revering him, I might get away with it. Actually, I went to London one time to audition for the role of Falafel Stand Man 2 in ‘Quantum of Solace’ and heard there was a Hippity Hop Karaoke night. That sounds fun, if rapping was your kind of thing, that is. It’s not mine.”
JUNE: “I keep trying to change my Wikipedia entry from ‘Rapper’ to ‘Actor’ – but some motherfucker keeps switching it back… I traced the IP Address to G.O.O.D Music’s head office. LIL KANYE, ya little bitch, quit that shit ASAP! And make me a vegan sandwich.”
JULY: “Had another vegan sandwich with 2 extras after filming today, if you know what I mean.”
AUGUST: “Kanye ran out of quarters for the Pacman machine, so he came and made a song about a girl. It wouldn’t really go on his album, so I think I’ll take it. It isn’t actually too bad a song. I’ll just write about what I’ve been up to this summer.”
SEPTEMBER: “I’m really bored of rap. Seriously. Why can’t they understand that I want to be an ACTOR? If that Latino motherfucker could become President on ‘The West Wing’ why can’t I do what I want? I’ve already made like four tracks for the album. Pharrell’s bored too, he prefers playing his advance beta copy of ‘Little Big Planet’ on his Playstation 3 whilst fucking models.”
OCTOBER: “FINALLY a productive non-sexual day of post-filming action. Cee Lo came down, and we made a nice song for the album! That is FIVE solid tracks. I can put that out now, right? How many songs do albums have on them anyway? At least 10? Are you sure? JESUS, the Notorious just please us with your lyrical thesis… Frown.”
NOVEMBER: “Oh shit, that election thing came round! We don’t really talk politics on set – I can’t stand it when a Republican and Democrat are taking turns on my Lonnipop, and then they start arguing about fiscal issues. I should make a song about that Obama shit that went down. Oh fuck, he won already? PHARRELL. He ain’t here, damn. MR DJ!!”
DECEMBER: “I’m in full swing for promotion – putting it on MySpace – for my new movie, I mean album, ‘Universal Mind Control’ – I managed to record a whole ten scenes, I mean tracks, over the course of the year, and at least three of them are listenable. As for my rhymes, I favoured Stanislavski over Brecht, and inhabited the character of a typical rapper – I got quite into it, though it can’t beat the buzz I’ll be feeling on the weekend of 22nd May 2009 when ‘Terminator Salvation’ comes out! Still, this Lynn-method of ‘acting as a rapper’ thing might just catch on.”
Music Vibes: 4.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 6.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 5.5 of 10
Gay Vibes: 11 of 10
^jajajajaja perfect timing son
That write-up was hee-larry-us, though
“Gay Vibes” was the cherry on top lol.
I just hope Nate Dogg’s health is better after those strokes he suffered.
The sucky thing about being a musician is the health care plan, or lack thereof
Common’s been getting pwned.
I can’t even believe that the Nate Dogg thing is a question. I did these new cats on occasion, but I’d never even use their names in the same paragraph as Nate’s. From sentiments expressed, to just vibes, Nate forever-ly shits on these new jacks. Hip-hop lacks respect for the elders…
the funny thing is…Nate didnt even use autotune.That was his voice lol.
“they can come closer than close.original, they never will beeeee.”
All Deen’s hoes look like Sasquatch (NOT!)
shit.”Clean LaTEEFuh” beat me to it with the auto tune comment. damn google chrome not updating shit lol.
Ain’t no 401K for a rapper.
Rappers have 401ks.
They’re called iced-out chains.
They can be pretty good investments, from what I’ve heard, provided that you don’t get Yung Berg’d
Nate ain’t passin’ nuthin’ but dope indeed…
Nate >>>>
nate FTW
*gets back to wormin*
Did Teef just snap on the Trackmasters’ Hos?
T-Pain can’t fuck with Nate Dog On the hook side. Nate ain’t using no voice box Or no Voice tones to salehis hooks.T-pain is tight and all but he can’t handle the DOG.
“Actually, I went to London one time to audition for the role of Falafel Stand Man 2 in ‘Quantum of Solace’ and heard there was a Hippity Hop Karaoke night. That sounds fun, if rapping was your kind of thing, that is. It’s not mine.”
Dying.
what the fuck is detox without a Nate dogg hook?
Is this even a question?
Nate got em, he’s too classic
Haha.
It’s possible T-Pain or Akon has made more money off being a “hook” man than Nate, but there is nooo way that 20 years from now, a 10 year old will know nearly every lyric from “Right Now (Na, Na, Na)”
However, my 10 year old little brother knows “Regulate” from front to back.
Nate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>akon/tpain
Nate Dogg iz more that dude. da hook man !
fo this ish with dre and dope beats, he’s !
Tpain iz not for real for mature/adult dude’s music
he’s good but too much teens/teenager’s spirit
Regulate bodies both of their wierd voiced contributions by its self. Nate once said he has a talent for hooks…A TALENT FOR HOOKS. Akon, come on now, nigga. Nate got a classic catalogue, believe that.
Nate uses his voice T Pain uses autotune. I wanna see artist careers after the autotune is over. Nothing is messing with The Next Episode and he’s only at the end of the song. Get that cooning ass T Pain out of here with that hat the only thing missing is the gloves and the black paint I won’t be surprize if we see it soon.
Nate’s voice is Timeless and he can do any subject matter I think. I couldn’t see Pain doing a song about anything but money, goin hard, or partying.
“Smoke weed everyday”
Nate Dogg, the voice of a generation. The G.O.A.T.
^ Nicely put, Tex.
Nobody can fuck with Nate, the man is a legend.
As far as T-Pain goes. I know I might be in the minority here, but…
T-Pain the hook man > T-Pain the solo artist
I can only take his electro-warbling in small doses…
Can’t believe akon even saaaaid that bullshit.
Nate Dogg was a master of the hooks because he had thug credibility and motherfucker could siiiiiing. Akon can’t sing, just says catchy ass stuff that gets stuck in peoples heads. How many times dude say the word “now” in that new radio track? And T-pain, I could see people trying to compare T-pain to Nate Dogg, but I think with all the autotune stuff I have to give Nate credit because he was killing it first and with straight vocal talent.
Anyone else tired of Akon completely? I’m waitin for dude to just fall off.
all of the hoes wanna kick it with meeeee
cuz I run with Warren Geeeeeee……
16 in the clip and one in the hole!
nate dogg is about to makesome bodies turn cold….
she says my car broke down and you sing real nice, would ya let me ride….
nuttin more to say here!
“”"”OED Says:
“Nate, I don’t think he’s any competition to what we’re doing right now”
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Yep, and what they’re “doing” right now is Pop Music, plain and simple…”"”"
Here, here!
I’m so sick of akon, and its good to read someone put him in his place after saying some egotistical cocksnot like “I slowly took over”. Man, fuck that guy.
Word OED
no contest. its nate dogg. akon said it best. he couldnt get through the doors when nate was here…thats cuz nate better than your ass. akon and t-pain are catchy, but nate has hooks with substance and also made you laugh with his nonsense hooks.
T Pain and Akon’s arms are too short to box with the god
I..Got..Hoes!