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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Victory Is Finally Ours&#8230;History So Long&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: SMH</title>
		<link>http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2008/11/victory-is-finally-ourshistory-so-long#comment-791674</link>
		<dc:creator>SMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im getting plastic surgery to construct my face like jayz&#039;s. i believe he is my illegitimate father. until he fesses up i will grow into my 30&#039;s holding his balls idolizing him with posters of him all over my bedroom wall so when i do get lucky enough to have a lady over when my mother is out of town i can tell her yeah baby thats my daddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im getting plastic surgery to construct my face like jayz&#8217;s. i believe he is my illegitimate father. until he fesses up i will grow into my 30&#8242;s holding his balls idolizing him with posters of him all over my bedroom wall so when i do get lucky enough to have a lady over when my mother is out of town i can tell her yeah baby thats my daddy</p>
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		<title>By: Tru School</title>
		<link>http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2008/11/victory-is-finally-ourshistory-so-long#comment-791567</link>
		<dc:creator>Tru School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first listen I thought the only thing I think they could have done better is the hook.  It doesn&#039;t sound very victorious or historic.  I thought why not use John Legend or even Matthew Santos for a more grandiose sound.  After a few more listens I realized the hook is actually perfect.  The way Jay is trying to sound reflective, almost tired even, on his verses is what I picked up on. 

Here&#039;s a look at the song Luda has w/ Nas &amp; Jay on it.  This shit sounds monumental.  You get to hear all of Nas&#039; verse and the about 8 bars of Jay&#039;s.  He rips it btw.
http://2dopeboyz.com/2008/11/11/ludacris-i-do-it-for-hip-hop-f-jay-z-nas-live/#comment-46679</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first listen I thought the only thing I think they could have done better is the hook.  It doesn&#8217;t sound very victorious or historic.  I thought why not use John Legend or even Matthew Santos for a more grandiose sound.  After a few more listens I realized the hook is actually perfect.  The way Jay is trying to sound reflective, almost tired even, on his verses is what I picked up on. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a look at the song Luda has w/ Nas &amp; Jay on it.  This shit sounds monumental.  You get to hear all of Nas&#8217; verse and the about 8 bars of Jay&#8217;s.  He rips it btw.<br />
<a href="http://2dopeboyz.com/2008/11/11/ludacris-i-do-it-for-hip-hop-f-jay-z-nas-live/#comment-46679" rel="nofollow">http://2dopeboyz.com/2008/11/11/ludacris-i-do-it-for-hip-hop-f-jay-z-nas-live/#comment-46679</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tru School</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tru School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr.IHateRappers
I got the same vibe from this as Beach Chair, which was criminally slept on imo.

@ Nadine G.

&quot;his rhyming style since Reasonable has changed, sheeit, it’s changed since Blueprint, but I feel like half of his fans grew with him, the other half- maybe he went over their heads a lil’ bit. He DOES have the tendency to do that…&quot;  Thanks for the vindication.  I can see why people want him to sound like he used to, or rhyme the way he did on their favorite album of his.  I think he&#039;s past what people expect of him to a certain extent.  He still gives them what they want.  Just not as much as he used to.  60% of his albums are allotted to his personal artistic growth.  I&#039;ve enjoyed him growing from a drug dealer/hustler to a business man/artist since he came out of retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr.IHateRappers<br />
I got the same vibe from this as Beach Chair, which was criminally slept on imo.</p>
<p>@ Nadine G.</p>
<p>&#8220;his rhyming style since Reasonable has changed, sheeit, it’s changed since Blueprint, but I feel like half of his fans grew with him, the other half- maybe he went over their heads a lil’ bit. He DOES have the tendency to do that…&#8221;  Thanks for the vindication.  I can see why people want him to sound like he used to, or rhyme the way he did on their favorite album of his.  I think he&#8217;s past what people expect of him to a certain extent.  He still gives them what they want.  Just not as much as he used to.  60% of his albums are allotted to his personal artistic growth.  I&#8217;ve enjoyed him growing from a drug dealer/hustler to a business man/artist since he came out of retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: jaywest03</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaywest03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! theres no excuse for an artist like Jay to spit over this garbage. Production flow and content. I demand all 3 in my music especially from an artist on his level. Anything less is unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! theres no excuse for an artist like Jay to spit over this garbage. Production flow and content. I demand all 3 in my music especially from an artist on his level. Anything less is unacceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kell-El</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kell-El</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half a song in my opinion

Lyrics are coo but the beat falters

J been in the game too long not to know cats fiend for a tight beat

J still losing, effin his legacy up like J did kinda with the Wizards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half a song in my opinion</p>
<p>Lyrics are coo but the beat falters</p>
<p>J been in the game too long not to know cats fiend for a tight beat</p>
<p>J still losing, effin his legacy up like J did kinda with the Wizards</p>
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		<title>By: texastoker</title>
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		<dc:creator>texastoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love when I bump tracks like this and aggins start looking at me like im bout to teach a class or some shit. Step your lyrical appreciation game up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love when I bump tracks like this and aggins start looking at me like im bout to teach a class or some shit. Step your lyrical appreciation game up.</p>
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		<title>By: MZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Production has nothing to do with his lyrics...

But the beat aint that bad either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Production has nothing to do with his lyrics&#8230;</p>
<p>But the beat aint that bad either.</p>
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		<title>By: jaywest03</title>
		<link>http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2008/11/victory-is-finally-ourshistory-so-long#comment-791363</link>
		<dc:creator>jaywest03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aint about growth. the production is weak. No excuse for that shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aint about growth. the production is weak. No excuse for that shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadine G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadine G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved this song from the first time I heard it. I got a homie back home that&#039;s &quot;BK all day&quot;, LOVES Jay, understands his angle for the most part, HATES this song though. I don&#039;t get it. I feel like you gotta let that man grow and change. I mean his rhyming style since Reasonable has changed, sheeit, it&#039;s changed since Blueprint, but I feel like half of his fans grew with him, the other half- maybe he went over their heads a lil&#039; bit. He DOES have the tendency to do that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved this song from the first time I heard it. I got a homie back home that&#8217;s &#8220;BK all day&#8221;, LOVES Jay, understands his angle for the most part, HATES this song though. I don&#8217;t get it. I feel like you gotta let that man grow and change. I mean his rhyming style since Reasonable has changed, sheeit, it&#8217;s changed since Blueprint, but I feel like half of his fans grew with him, the other half- maybe he went over their heads a lil&#8217; bit. He DOES have the tendency to do that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jaywest03</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaywest03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>production sounds like stevie wonder in the 80&#039;s. Jay knows better. Getting tired of this half assed bullshit from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>production sounds like stevie wonder in the 80&#8242;s. Jay knows better. Getting tired of this half assed bullshit from him.</p>
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