“…that’s the sound of da police!”
Issued by Hip-Hop Police Department (HHPD)
Citation # – SNWMN2008
Suspect – Mr. Young Jeezy
Offense – First degree swagger jack; Three counts of recycling
Witness Testimony #1 – Mundy
I know I’m excited as hell for the new Young Jeezy album. Every cut off that has been ridiculous thus far – I think we’re looking at album of the year potential. I know I’ll catch some shit for that, but whatever – that album is going to be a beast, and you can mark my cracka ass words.
Witness Testimony #2 – LC Weber
I was enjoying a quiet night at home with my pit, Dylan, wrapping up some emails, listening to yacht rock, when bloop! TC sent me a link to a Jeezy cut that took me back to 2006. How could that be? This was a new track. But ahh yes… Dilla had already done it. With Steve Spacek. And Dilla crushed that shit.
Jeezy can’t just go around Circulating beats and samples like Billy Paul does Dollars. It’s not right! On top of that, only a few MCs can successfully rap over a soul record like that. And by “a few MCs” I mean “Ghostface.”
When I told TC all of this he said…
Witness Testimony #3 – TC
That’s the 2nd time this album. He got a sample Freeway used for his last album.
Witness #2 – LC Weber
But it didn’t end there. When The Recession leaked yesterday, TC sent me more… like a never ending cycle of Xeroxed samples. This time it was Beanie Sigel. And yet still, here’s Mundy talking about this is the second coming. I’ll say. The second coming of other people’s beats.
Witness #3 – TC
I’d be lying to say [Jeezy's] weren’t better though. Blame the producers.
Exhibit A
Steve Spacek Feat. Dilla – Dollar
Exhibit B
Freeway Feat. Scarface – Baby, Don’t Do It
Exhibit C
Sentence – Community service of taking all recyclables to the iPod bin where they belong and leaving them there. Probation for life to keep a watchful eye and ear over Mr. Jeezy for future offenses. And though Jeezy’s album should prove fruitful, an apology is in order to folks who believe he’s one of the only artists left making radio waves who’s original.
Rick Ross C.O. Sidebar – Keep an eye out for Mundy. Spells of schizophrenia leave subject prone to questionable judgment, irrational speech and TUI (Typing Under the Influence.)
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*gives LC a carafe of sangria and implores her to chill out on chastising Jeezy for being green*
listen to The Recession after getting rocked offa red wine. you’ll enjoy it. and it won’t matter if he recycles beats.
lol
lol..u dudes r funny as hell. thats mad tho..jeezy dnt need to be re-using others dudes beats!
started listenin to the recession today in the wheel with my lady…shit fuckin knocks…i gotta give it a pass so far
don’t blame jeezy, blame the producers…it’s not jeezy’s responsibilitjy to go check every random or underground (or even mainstream) record to make sure the beat he’s got hasn’t been flipped before…just like it’s not the producer’s responsibilty to check all jeezy’s rhymes and make sure he’s not biting some other emcees material
i still got luv fo jeezy. thats my nigga
dont 4get 9th killed that billy paul sample too.
let the laughter commence
http://www.youtube.com/v/-lqIEj5lulY&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf
ha ha – dude gets knocked the fugg out by a bitchslap:
http://www.bangedup.com/bu_posts/battleofpimphand.wmv
Other than album of the year potential: everything said there was true.
*Thanks God I wasn’t called to the stand*
in the words(ad-lib) of Jezzy
DammmmmmmmmmmnnnnnN!!!!!!
Yall hip hop snobs are funny; it’s the artist fault that the producer resold a beat. Hell why do you think he name the album the recession; he had to cut backl on originality. LOL
I hadn’t gotten that far into the album yet. Dammit LC! You ruined my surprise! lol
Ummm…sounds like you guys haven’t listened to hip hop before, so let me school you cats…
The idea of using other’s beats isn’t new. You newbies might not know this, but hip hop started in the park, on two turntables, based off of the dancehall style of djs, where early dancehall artists would try to come the best over a dub ( A plate of wax pressed up with the hottest beat of the hour.) This trend extended to hip hop (Thanks Kool Herc) and continued through until the misnamed old school, new school, daisy/native toungues,gangster, party,
and all the other eras of hip hop. In fact, you can say it’s a prerequisite in hip hop that you rap over other’s beats at some point in a rapper’s career. BIG got signed like this. 50 made a career off of this.
Why oh Why is Jeezy being tried for it? Because of picky blog commenters.
And oh yeah, because whoever has a problem with it is not a rapper, or otherwise you’d know beats don’t matter. A real MC murks them all. Even the Macarena beat if he has to.
The only ones who care about this small detail are the people whose appetite for music is so great they have over 10,000 bucks worth of music on their media player of choice and didn’t pay squat for it. They’ve listened to it all and are now bored with music, and quite possibly life, because as we all know…to them music is worth a listen and a half, then it’s…on to the next song on the next blog to pack my ipod.
Since hip hop is throwaway to them no wonder they talk trash.
Oh yeah. Jeezy’s album is…I unabashedly admit…fire.
*Turns off computer…listens to King Tim III to see how it all began*
@Wit E
I don’t know where to begin with that youtube clip. I swear the government needs to restrict some cats net access.
The best line has to be I’m not even a rapper; I’m just yung rich. And I cut hair. LOL
Damn – I’m getting called out here, and I didn’t even get a warning.
Nobody can tell me The Recession – recycled beats or not – isn’t one of the best albums of the year, if not the best (thus far).
Jeezy’s got swagger to spare, one of the two best singles of the year (A Milli being the other one), titanic fucking beats, and he’s stepped up his rhymes.
This album is fire, LC – throw the backpack off and enjoy it a little bit. Won’t hurt… Put oooonnnnnnnnnnn
aren’t the same samples flipped all the time…?
I am not a Jeezy fan; but his new album is very good. No matter what type of hip hop you are into, you have to give credit where credit is due.
Wit-E I peeped it Fake ass Js
I LMMFO to keep from crying
LOL.
im so glad that guy explained where Hip Hop started, i was thinkin OutKast started it when they dropped Ms. Jackson….
http://vimeo.com/1610167
Emp3:
Yeah beats are flipped all the time; but when a commerical artist such as Jeezy dares breathes on a JayDee beat, the backpackers and hip hop snobs get in a tizzy. LOL
^The same samples are always flipped over and over again. Anything by James Brown, Cameo, Marvin Gaye, and especially the Isley Brothers…I mean, just how many people have sample “Between the Sheets” anyway? Recycling ain’t nothing new. It’s the same as it ever was.
On that note, I haven’ even listened to Recession yet. I’m still on Killer Mike. 10Gs = Hot Buttah
*buys Mundy an e-beer*
lol yo jeezy really has gotten better props, i never had doubts ive been with him since trap or die but deff didn’t expect him to be this good i can’t wait to get the cd when it drops fuck a leak this is worth buying
Hold On, you mean those “Shower Curtain J’s” aint real. Dammit!!!!
I better cancel that paypal payment, egg on my face. LOL!!!!
Wit-E sorry to correct you; but Hip Hop started with Puffy and those SHINY SUITS!!!!
LOL
ye’en know? thats how def jam get down…peep how they put out the Playaz Circle album…didnt promote it at all…but turned around and jacked the album for two or three beats and put them on the JayZ/AG and Ghostface/BDR albums.
Damn..when I first saw the title and the mugshot..I thought Jeezy recycled the old pre-album publicity via a petty arrest
Mickey Factz – The Leak Vol 2: The Inspiration
18. Overdose feat. Drake & Travis McCoy (Prod By. Omen)
19. Jumanji feat. Nakim, Nymesys, Charlie Clips, Smoke DZA, Curtains (Prod By. H-Storm for Beatz Galaw Music Group)
20. Live Water feat. Lauryn Hill
21. Good Money (Prod By. 9th Wonder)
22. Naturally feat. Jade
23. Rockin N Rollin (Prod By. Precize)
24. 6 Letter Words (Prod By. Jet Audio)
25. Machine Gun
26. Rockin N Rollin Remix feat. The Cool Kids (ILLFONICS REMIX)
27. Incredible (Prod By. Sebastian)
28. Keep Moving feat. Fresh Daily
29. Africa feat. D’Anglelo
30. Keys Of Life
30. We Aint feat. Tanya Morgan (Prod By. AEON)
31. Sublime (Prod By. Precize)
32. Going Nowhere (Prod By. Precize)
33. The Rush feat. Smoke Dza (Prod By. Ibe)
34. The Inspiration (Prod By. Black Friday)
35. Swahililand feat Jesse Boykins & Cocoa Sarai
36. Pick Up The Bass Snippet (Prod By. Precize)
http://sharebee.com/462214dd
In fact, you can say it’s a prerequisite in hip hop that you rap over other’s beats at some point in a rapper’s career.
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The album’s good but that right there…ill logic. So three times in one album we should hear recycled beats? I thought that’s what the mixtapes before the album were for?
Mickey Factz – The Leak Vol 1
http://sharebee.com/3512c395
jeezy should never appear in public without a fitted
fashion…Fashion…FASHION!
LOL. That clip reminds me of the B. Rhymes skit off E.L.E. where dude is trying to gas up that broad, which belongs in the skit HOF.
Well other than Ice Cube’s “Jackin for Beats”; most time you heard MC’s on other MC’s beats would be on mixtapes; usually up and comming MC’s trying to create a buzz. I don’t think you can directly blame an MC for rhyming on a recycled beat. How is he/she to know that the producer is double dealing?
Ah, yes, thank you, Hip Hop Realist. I was confused about the origins of hip-hop. Now I get it. You’re such a realist. And P.S. my dude, ask me how many free downloaded tracks I got on my computer. Go ahead. Ask me. Cause the answer will reduce your argument to null-and-void. I don’t download, yo. Sorry.
Tsk tsk, Mundy… posting in the comments is always fair game, you know that.
And to EERRRYbody else who thinks I’m saying I’m not interested in this album anymore… relax. I have always and will always like Jeezy. The Recession included.
But come ON folk. THREE sample jacks from recent albums all on his ONE album… is a bit tough, methinks.
I just call it like I sees it.
*puts backpack back on and continues passing out flyers for Friday’s show*
*puts several on Mundy’s windshield*
I don’t want to go off an a tangent but…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhINFs01Eqw&
At 1st I couldn’t understand why homeboy was filming in a bathroom; but now that I think about it, it makes sense to film in a bathroom when those fake kicks and his show are quite shitty. LOL
Don’t ask me how much downloaded music I have on my hard drive; I don’t want the RIAA to Muxtape me.
yeah, the same samples get flipped, but the object (I THOUGHT) was to be original with how YOU use it…flip it a little bit…put YOUR signature on it….
and if MY interpretation is wrong, the 3 times on 1 album IS excessive…
but word to my man Flea, this may sound like complaining, and I don’t wanna do that b/c I’ve enjoyed what I’ve heard so far.
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and thank goodness the hip-hop realist has given us all a lesson on hip-hop.
so lemme get this right…
that’s TWO turntables???
LMMFAO
who cares. happens all the time. some of the beats did sound suspiciously heard-before though. not like anybody really listens to beans or freeway anymore though anyway and those tracks he ‘jacked’ were not even really the best on there. don cannon’s beats sound all the same anyway–they all suck. as for the album: fuckin fire. his best yet by far.
damn i thought hip-hop started with “in da club”
@ Old.Sole
Ahahahaha.
This is all making a mountain out of a molehill… As a hip-hop fan, I’m less concerned with where Jeezy gets his beats from (or who has rhymed over them before) than whether he does well by them. And judging from The Recession, he did so, and then some.
It’s nitpicking, and it simply ain’t worth the effort… It’s the end of summer, and I’m just happy to have some new good music to enjoy. Recycled/reflipped samples or not.
DOES happen all the time. The most important thing though, is to own that shit when YOU rock over it.
And it’s been said, but I blame the producers if there is “blame” to be placed.
I can’t really see Jeezy listening to Dilla like that, but who knows? lol
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King Tim III?
Is that Timbaland?
cosign mundy
@ LC ..
this sounds like something id write, then get hated on for making a big deal out of nothing. we cant help it, right?
Dammit, Matt…
“I’m less concerned with where Jeezy gets his beats from (or who has rhymed over them before) than whether he does well by them”
OED
“The most important thing though, is to own that shit when YOU rock over it”
both posted @ 10:56pm
if the hip-hop cops approach me, I’M TELLIN’ YOU RIGHT NOW…
I’m snitchin’…
lol
haha yeah that was some pretty ‘coincidental’ shit. great minds think alike, apparently, though i’m still gonna book you for unintentional plagiarism. you’re worse than jeezy lol
Sorry. I didn’t want to call out the “elitists” but…
Argument still stands because:
1. You many not have any for “free” but I’m pretty certain that you have promotional material. Plus this is a site that frequently releases links to leaked material, so it’s not a stretch.
2. Jeezy’s Album Is NOT OUT. I mean, even if you did hear it by divine intervention, you heard it before others who will pay for it, and
3. Your ideas and others who have opinions influence others. Real talk.
With no mention or even slight reference of hip hop’s origins in the post as well I feel you (and others)dropped the ball. The beginning of my post was sarcasm. What I should have said is,
” Ya’ll wrong for posting leaks of any artists’ material so close to the release. It’s becoming bad for hip-hop. It lends to the idea that ALL hip hop can be criticized for the things through which it was created.”
Kinda like saying blogging is the new DJ.
Recession comes from lack of consumer spending, among other things.
I’m sure that Jeezy’s album will sell well, but I also think that it would sell more if bloggers didn’t drop leaks. Period. (I Know, DUH.)
I enjoy reading this site and I listen to songs I’ve anticipated and groups I wasn’t familiar with yet. But I do this with the knowledge that I’m feeding into a mentality that ultimately is keeping some from making enough money to maintain a career. Those with 10000 free songs know what I’m talking about. Those with connections and an elitist attitude don’t.
They’re the slavemasters tossing hush puppy links to the dogs, and scrapple to the slaves. No major music on the web gets released without a leaky faucet. Doesn’t that say something about what’s really going on?
Sorry I’m just saying it’s sad to watch things get to the point you equate quality to whether or not the beats were recycled. I thought recycling beats was what hip hop was all about.
Jeezy’ only job was to come harder than the rest. Maybe I should do the same.
Oh and I heard it the same way you did. I just thought Jeezy was paying homage or the producer felt he could flip it better. I guess you’re right though.
Prologue…
Diamond D:” Yeah me and Premier we went back and forth on the sample tip. It’s all about how you flip the script.”
Realists know what samples and songs he was talking about.
is Jeezy wearin a bike helmet in that pic?
From Wikipedia…fakers.
“King Tim III (Personality Jock)” is a 1979 (see 1979 in music) song by the Fatback Band from the disco album XII. Released on July 25, 1979,[1] several weeks before “Rapper’s Delight” (which is often cited as the first commercially released hip hop song), this song is often cited[who?] as the beginning of recorded hip hop. The title refers to vocalist Tim Washington.
The song was originally the B-Side of the 7-inch single, with the A-Side “You’re My Candy Sweet” a mid-tempo disco song. However the song stalled at #67 after 4-weeks on the R&B chart and was replaced the following week with “King Tim III (Personality Jock)” on the chart. It peaked at #26 on the R&B chart and stayed on for 11 weeks.
Or better known as the first rapper on record. Not that you care OED.
And?
The album is still the shit. Probably the Rap AOTY
hahahahaha… exactly, Beware. I can’t help I heard “Circulate” and the first thing I thought was “Dollar.” Been done… and if no one else was gonna say it, I sure as shit was.
I can get hated on for nitpicking (Mundy) but if anyone’s gonna pay attention and muckrake… it’s gotta be the blogger. Or in the words of DJ Khaled, “the typer.”
oddly enough realist..ur the one that seems like the elitist
LC, its funny cuz when i commented on that circulate beat jack TC told me u had the post coming….we been on the same page alot lately….
i think the shit up and just wait a day or 2 to see the write up…i like how that works.
heres the results from the TSS overflow fantasy leages draft is any1 is interested:
http://www.shorttext.com/r9sdczr
old.sole Says:
oddly enough realist..ur the one that seems like the elitist
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Yeah that is odd…considering I’m not. Just tired of fakers in the hip hop game that don’t like the 5 elements of hip hop. All 5. You’re welcome to like any number you want. I just love it more.
Also I think bloggers need someone to “check” on them, too. Just doing my part, no hate, only healthy debate and discussion.
…and I need more haters. Please apply.
so you’re saying King Tim III
isn’t Tim Dog?
gimme a break, dude… you’re snobbery is excessive, and you’re barking up a plastic tree (meaning you got it all fcuked up right now).
If you gonna be a “snob”, let ME be a snob and tell you I don’t need wikipedia to tell me who the Fatback Band, Gap Band, Dazz Band, or a Band Aid is, my dude…
King Tim III/Timbaland…
SMH
Tell you what… got to dictionary.com and look up “sarcasm” and “context”.
that pic of Jeezy…
he looka like a Milk Dud with a face
I initially thought I was bein biased toward not feelin southern cats. I’m a grown ass man w/ limited time, so cats gotta be about somethin for me ta listen. Jeezy’s showin there’s more than the materialistic ish he was spittin about. He even used the word “unacceptable” in the intro ya’ll!! I mean damn Jeezy!! Speakin out on politics… I mess wit Jeezy now. DAAayum!
I don’t mean to hate or anything, but I do think this is more nitpicking than muckraking. My main problem was just having my name bandied about when I said something true – that his album was shaping up to be a monster. It seemed to have little to do with the argument (using that term loosely, of course).
And I still stand by my statements, which had nothing to do with the recycled beats – that Jeezy’s new album is, in the immortal words of Brownsville’s finest, ‘FIIYYYYAAAAHHHHH!!!!!’
Wow. Do you mean to say when you said King Tim III is Timberland you REALLY MEANT IT????
WoooooW.
Step ya Rap History Up.
I mean my brother knows THAT.
Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do.
That doesn’t make me a snob. Is someone a snob who graduated and you’re still in the 11th grade? Nope. I’m not trying to offend here but my feelings about this will not waver.
A bar has to be set sometime. We must be responsible for this culture, and for the generations that come after us.
Stop calling me a snob. That’s just showing you aren’t feeling what I’m saying without really taking me to task. Pontificate. Elaborate. Demonstrate. Make reference. Do something to enlighten me.
Make me believe you like hip hop as much as I do. Don’t hate on me for liking it more than you do.
dude, this is futile…
If you hadn’t wasted your time copying and pasting wikipedia’s definition (smh) of King Tim III, I would have NEVER made mention of it.
“Make me believe you like hip hop as much as I do. Don’t hate on me for liking it more than you do.”
WTF???
What the fcuk we gon’ do, pull out name belts, Lee twills, and Puma’s???
*lights up a j*
*passes it around*
*turns up stereo to drown out conversation*
*looks at sangria stains on LC’s sweatpants*
*smell of weed masks odor from funky-ass Birkenstocks*
he looka like a Milk Dud with a face
= = = = =
LOL!!!!
awww shit, we gon’ have us a Hip-Hip Shootout at high noon, fellas!
*cues up soundtrack for The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly*
* lays out cardboard refrigerator box *
* puts on David Thompson suede Pony’s *
* dusts off 12″ copy of F-4000 *
* begins uprocking in preperation to do a windmill just to “PROVE” I love hip-hop remotely as much as THE HIP-HOP REALIST *
* laughs at the silliness of it all *
Maaaaan – I didn’t even read the entire post (half-baked arguments do that to a man), and I missed the Rick Ross C.O. sidebar… Libel! I think someone’s just bitter that they lost the 50 Cent GRODT classic argument….
Yawn.
*does a basic uprock to front like he’s a b-boy*
I thought The Recession was what Neyo’s album was gonna be called…in regards to his hairline.
^^^lol.
i just noticed in the picture it looks like Jeezy’s got 2 chins – one on the bottom and one on the top of his head…gives a new meaning to the term “Double chin”
http://www.youtube.com/v/DVcqLSYsKtI
I can’t believe y’all aren’t giving props on how this post was presented. on some legal shit. the attention to detail! i.e. the “citation number”: SNWMN2008
lol
LenDale White (9th), Brandon Marshall (8th), and Justin Fargas (14th) that late are “steals.” Listen to me know, remember me in a couple weeks. That was hard to look at, but those stand out.
I was watchin the DNC this evening with my pops and my main man Billy C said a nice quote that I would like to share with y’all:
“People will be more impressed with the power of your example, than the example of your power.”
Think about that for a minute.
I think that little phrase right there is going to be repeated countless times for years to come. Much like the phrase that a young President Kennedy said about what you could do for your country.
Just a lil’ sumpin’ sumpin’ I wanted to throw out there.
Peace!
* pulls out red Magnum 44 marker *
(sits down next to LC and takes a sip of her sangriá)
* buys a box of Boston Baked Beans & Lemonheads *
* takes of suede Pony sneakers & throws on orange & blue Ewing Adidas *
* turns down UTFO’s “Just Bite It” playing on the boombox…. *
* …..to hear himself laughing at the silliness of it all *
@ Big Fonz
have you not read the previous comments???
lol
we ain’t trying to do sumn silly like MAKE SENSE in here tonight, Mayne…
(in all seriousness though, Dope quote)
Damn, my bad.
With that I’m going to sleep. I’ll be gone ’til November.
Sike, just til Wednesday. Goin to visit my wife down in Colombia. Y’all have a good weekend!
I’m late and all but was this pt proven:
LC-”And P.S. my dude, ask me how many free downloaded tracks I got on my computer. Go ahead. Ask me. Cause the answer will reduce your argument to null-and-void”
HHR-”Jeezy?s Album Is NOT OUT. I mean, even if you did hear it by divine intervention, you heard it before others who will pay for it”
I missed the conclusion thought someone could clarify it for me thanks.
Also worth a spin is the fact that the time was taken to realize these re-used samples but not the overtly re-used Lil Wayne verses upon diff samples, if somethings worth an article indeed that is. I think there’s an art 2 changing the sample and mixing it around but fuc’ all that continual rhyme with a diff beat now that’s bullshit………
Be easy Fonz, not that I was engulfed in the DNC as you were, but that quote made me put the Chipotle burrito down.
I get ALL the salsa on my Chipotle.
corn too.
so I can see when it has left my body
^ TMI
Dilla got busy on “Dollar.” No question. But Canon brought that sample to life. Damn if that track isn’t an instant classic.
the rice in a Chipotle burrito is such an overlooked and underappreciated component/ingredient…subtle touches of buttery goodness seasoned to perfection
“Obama knows that America cannot be strong abroad unless we are strong at home. People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power.”
is that not closer to it? I suppose it’s the same, but I see it as much as a shot at the status quo as a call to arms.
“Are you a politician asking what your country can do for you or a zealous one asking what you can do for your country? If you are the first, then you are a parasite; if the second, then you are an oasis in a desert.” Khalil Gibran (WWI-ish I believe)
and there were others (before and after), JFK made us remember it, but certainly wasn’t the first to “preach” it…not that Fonz claimed that…just building.
Ask not what TSS can do for you…
Ask what you can do for TSS…
^Yes!
The rice in Chipotle burritos doesn’t have butter in it. It’s got cilantro, citrus juice and some salt. Peep the link: http://www.chipotle.com/#flash/food_ingredients
I get mine in a bol. Barbacoa – double meat. Everything no guacamole. Then sprinkle some lemon juice form the lemon they put out for the Iced tea and you’re set.
Now I’m going to sleep.
^ w/ a Corona or a Modelo Especial. and I’m good
ya just never ever know the direction these comments will go
lol
* continues uprocking furiously to “Pack Jam” in an Ivan Lendl adidas sweatsuit to “PROVE” my love for hip-hop *
I eat mine with a Pomegranite-Cherry Nantucket Nectar. Shit’s off the chain son!
OED – You’re good homey. We believe you already!
*smell of weed masks odor from funky-ass Birkenstocks*…just about choked on that chipotle burrito i was eating homie…hilarious
@ Fonz
My bad, I’m just having fun here recollecting.
^ and I’m bored az FCUK here at work tonight.
*rocks Spider-Man Underoos with cracked silkscreen print from early 80′s to prove he’s Old School like Will Ferrell*
^ See?
that was somewhat therapeutic wasn’t it, ET? lol
yup!
I swear, Boston Baked Beans & Lemonheads was the best candy…
Uknowho… thought I was done for the night… but I’ll clarify for you. I don’t download. In fact… because I don’t download, I haven’t heard all of The Recession. I’ve heard the tracks that are on zshare, but I don’t actually take them.
A leak really means nothing to me… not because of any other reasons other than A) I’m not too impatient to wait for an actual release and B) (and more importantly) I’m technologically skeptical.
Let me clarify further… I DID download in the days of Napster — yes, Napster — but you get that one virus that fucks with your cpu (i.e. life,) and you never really look at DLing the same, feel me?
No divine intervention. I just listen. If I like what I hear, I buy. If I don’t like what I hear, I wouldn’t waste my time downloading the shit anyway. If I only like one track, I buy it on iTunes. No bullshit.
wHoop wHoop! … that’s the sound of a da beast !
you are an idiot hiphoprealist. go away with your stupid arguements.
u come online with this ‘holier than thou’ attitude. please. i couldnt give a fuck about hw much hiphop history u know or who wikipedia says started hiphop.
u think if tss stop posting links that will somehow affect dwnloading or people who bootleg? lol.
music means different things to different people. and human nature means people will always have different tastes and opinions.
dammit. i hate people who try to preach.
I think this thread just “JoJo at 1:50′d” the Killer Mike thread.
LOL!
Has me thinking though… that is for sure.
(I have not yet heard the album – the advance is somewhere in my closet)
P.S.
The price of rat meat quadrupled in Cambodia as inflation bites.
Now THAT’S a recession.
Wow ©Flavor Flav
remember off the inspiration : Bury Me A G !!
plus Ludacris’ Release therapy : Do Your Time !!
that samples was used by a french crew of producers in new york city called Get Large.
(tracks for Ali Vegas, and other)…most undergroud,
but a swagg also!
just a thing, that ain’t the first time… for jeezy so.
but the problem ain’t he spits on track with soul/soulful samples!
the lil problem iz that he don’t take producers from NYC, old school or not, but with the quality and the practice of this. yall!
peace
*swagger like us*
I would like to note a few things:
1. LC is awesome – one of the best writers TSS has been blessed with.
2. I have a Young Jeezy t-shirt.
3. I am unemployed, thus possessing infinite emotional artillery to launch into innernuts arguments.
4. The Recession is really great.
5. LC is awesome, once again.
but dat’s whatitiz, A Banger Is A Banger !
now isn’t One Time 4 Your Mind, One Time ;
no 2 For The Show…
it’s
One 4 The Money, Two For The Banger !
“Whoop Whoop”
Fuck the police. Since when is recycling a sample new to hip hop?
Exhibit A -
Steve Spaceks “Dollar” isn’t even hip hop. He wasn’t rapping on it. Only reason its even mentioned is because Dilla produced it.
Exhibit B -
Example where the original wasn’t enjoyed by most. I don’t know many Freeway fans who loved “Baby Don’t Go”. Both Midnite Black and Jeezy improved on that sample.
Exhibit C -
B.Coming has been out for a minute now so its had time to be enjoyed by most. I think if u enjoyed “Look at Me Now” then no need to be mad another producer decided to revisit it. I think J.U.S.T.I.C.E breathed alil more life into that sample than Buckwild did. And Beans could care less another artist got on that sample cause he already shined and did his thing on it just like Jeezy did his on “Word Play”.
To me caring about recycled samples in hip hop is like if someone in Dancehall cared another artist got on the same riddim.
“Offense – First degree swagger jack”
If Jeezy sounded like any of the original artists on the tracks in your “exhibits” then that would be swagger jackin.
Jeezy is guilty of alot of things but in this case swagger jackin isn’t one of them.
Ummm…what Nina said. Wish this was posted earlier.
Also all the sarcasm by previous posters was for the purpose of masking the truth…that I had some very valid points. Sorry if you feel like I’m being elitist. With all the people who commented I would have thought I’d get some responses that understood the passion behind what I was saying and welcome some irreverent discussion about today’s blogging practices, and how they hurt hip hop to some extent.
Hip Hop on blogs can be very “tabloid”. But I love this site and I’ve been reading it since almost day one, as a earnest, thought provoking daily commentary on current hip hop and the pioneers.
Things have changed for some, MMmmrrrrreskayMMMmmm but even with the “merger” I could still come here for some irreverence and biting commentary. I guess you don’t like anyone to bite back. And I didn’t even bite…yet.
You never know who you’re talking to on these blog comments now do you….
Best of luck to you all. I will continue to fight the good fight. In my eyes it’s worth it. And to those who actually insulted me as a person, instead of challenging my ideas, I’ve got a Hater-Prize for you. I appreciate you.
@ HipHopRealist
All I can say is wait for TSS’s review to see what we really think of the album as a whole.
Will this post have a factor on the verdict?
Probably not. None of the “bit samples” are even big like that. Not a big deal.
But the post is factual. And there’s nowhere in the post where any of the songs in question’s quality is devalued. Just a lighthearted read.
Ok.. See. I was willing to not say anything to this because. It sound like an elitist conversation from both sides.
LC was stating her case about the side of it she sees AND in a humorous fashion.
HHR you somehow took some offense to someone POINTING out the beats used in an album. Why?.
If your point was to educate you could have done so without even making light of the post itself. Then you proceed to toss about your love of hiphop and the 5 elements and a abridged history of the origins of hip hop, That is basically the best example of elitism anyone could ask for.
I also noted that you stated you have been on this site for quite awhile, well I haven’t and I even I could see the comedy of what was being said, YET the entire time you were being told .. the album is good and go get it (hate to say I will go get it and have to eat my hate from 2 yrs back on the MTV Hottest MC debates) but by then it was more important to win the argument right?
I beg you go back and read your comments to one of your friends, but with the caveat of saying, No one else was talking about the “History”. And then see how elitist he/she thinks you are being.
Your argument has much substance.. but you killed it for anyone else reading not because you were.. challenging the system.. but because you choose to take those how took an element to task.
*takes J from Sir Teef*
so whens that Block Obama droppin’ Crooked I?
LC- great post, pure comedy with that HHPD gotta luv the set up as a whole, it just seems as if a few people didn’t comprehend……
LC- great post, pure comedy with that HHPD gotta luv the set up as a whole, it just seems as if a few people didn’t comprehend……
^Guess I’m guilty of TUI as well……
Just wanted the good comments to outweigh the malo.
Again LC nice read
^Guess I’m guilty of TUI as well……
Just wanted the good comments to outweigh the malo.
Again LC nice read
Jeez Ain’t A Swagger…
but Justice league brings out “soulful sample” with a touch mo dirty, mo south. so take the work of nyc producers !!! but it’s business, it iz what it is !
and the sampling iz fo everybody… i u pay, u can !
Jeezy – ‘Everything’ ft Anthony Hamilton & Jay-Z
that would have been great ! no disrespect to boosie. but maybe a remix even if he has already remixed ‘Put on’ so …who know!
This is Hip-Hop…swagger jacking & sample stealing is all part of the game. Doesn’t “Hustlaz Ambition” steal it’s title from Fiddy & the hook from Pac?
This is definitely in my top 5 of 08 albums so far. Jeezy delivered on here, who cares about a reused sample…or three. Jeezy, Anthony Hamilton & Lil’ Boosie on a track together? A no brainer.
This is Hip-Hop…swagger jacking & sample stealing is all part of the game. Doesn’t “Hustlaz Ambition” steal it’s title from Fiddy & the hook from Pac?
This is definitely in my top 5 of 08 albums so far. Jeezy delivered on here, who cares about a reused sample…or three. Jeezy, Anthony Hamilton & Lil’ Boosie on a track together? A no brainer.
Still, good read LC. It inspired way more conversation than I woulda expected.
Exhibit B :
Freeway – Baby, Don’t Do It
Young Jeezy – Don’t Do It !
(not Don’t You Know)
HHR – I went back & reread your comments just so that i could say I did give them time & thought. And I did.
However…
Make me believe you like hip hop as much as I do. Don’t hate on me for liking it more than you do.
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That’s the type of thing that shuts me down personally. I don’t even debate my love when I’m talking to the people who are on the team with me, not w/friends, not w/anyone.
I don’t have to.
Especially not online. There is no competition to me. My love & appreciation for music is mine and mine alone to love.
I understand your points; however i don’t agree w/them in full. Fundamental differences in views I guess. But it’s not my gig to “convince” you of anything along those lines. The only task I’ve ever had is to make sure we’re pointing out things we love and enjoy w/in this culture and to sometimes poke fun @ other aspects.
Jeezy – ‘Everything’ ft Anthony Hamilton & Jay-Z
that would have been great ! no disrespect to boosie. but maybe a remix even if he has already remixed ‘Put on’ so …who know!
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Boosie’s a go to guy right now if you ask me. Voice, emotion & content, he knocks his appearances out. If he expanding his content, it’d be better…but I can accept what he’s giving right now.
exhibit a and c are from 2005 and b is from last year…this has happened b4…..no1 caught nas and rza both using “you cant stop us now” they are like the same song
And oh yeah, because whoever has a problem with it is not a rapper, or otherwise you’d know beats don’t matter. A real MC murks them all. Even the Macarena beat if he has to.
“The only ones who care about this small detail are the people whose appetite for music is so great they have over 10,000 bucks worth of music on their media player of choice and didn’t pay squat for it. They’ve listened to it all and are now bored with music, and quite possibly life, because as we all know…to them music is worth a listen and a half, then it’s…on to the next song on the next blog to pack my ipod.
Since hip hop is throwaway to them no wonder they talk trash.”
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HA HA HA!!! I think Hip Hop Realist touched a nerve in some of y’all with that statement, hence the backlash. I agree with him to an extent though, specially in regard to his blog comment.
I’d get some responses that understood the passion behind what I was saying and welcome some irreverent discussion about today’s blogging practices, and how they hurt hip hop to some extent. Hip Hop on blogs can be very “tabloid”.
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Some blogs are very “tabloid”…but that’s b/c people flock to them. I’m sure if we flipped our script, we’d be doing 30-50k per day lol. But do they hurt hip-hop? No more than the actions of those they’re speaking on.
But I love this site and I’ve been reading it since almost day one, as a earnest, thought provoking daily commentary on current hip hop and the pioneers.
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Appreciated. We still try to provide that while providing doses of irrelevance lol.
then it’s…on to the next song on the next blog to pack my ipod.
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I’ve spoken on that many times in previous posts. I’m an advocate of digesting albums/artist materials. You can’t do that 24 hrs after hearing a leak…but some will try. On my playlist are albums & songs from July still. Those are my listening tendencies & I don’t try to push’em on anyone else.
I’m still trippin off Mundy saying that Dj Khaled’s new record is gonna be the new Supreme Clientele
young jeezy is a conehead.
@ steve
yo nas and rza, it’s like puffy and jay with press play and kingdom come! it’s the same year, same month approximatively… so just coincidence
that the same sample on two tracks !!
BUT here jeezy comes in 2008,
b.sigel and freeway joints was out in 2007 !
@ gotty
no disrespect to boosie. again. (but i don’t have read his lyrics on it ; but i trust you!) plus sure he’s the futur in principe ! but the track is tight with a.hamilton so i think jay-z would have been great on it. too! *[more]*
haven’t read all the comments but a wise man once said…
“Rap is an art you can’t own no loops
It’s how you hook em up and the rhyme style troop
So don’t even think you could say someone bit
off your weak beat come on you need to quit”
@ Gotty: Pretty much sums up this post my ninja, case closed Judge Gotty has made the verdict!!! Did you get my Rock The Bells pics??? I don’t know if they made it to you because I sent them from my office pc, so my corporate email might have e-blocked me.
You guys are losers…er…i mean, true heads.
@ LC…
estelle made me catch the ‘tails.
“Issued by Hip-Hop Police Department (HHPD)
Citation # – SNWMN2008″
I agree with Mundy. you already know.
you guys are friggin hilarious.
I missed the humor in the post.
I felt pointing out samples on Jeezy’s album that have already been used was like HHR telling us hip hop started with two turntables (not 3 for those who were confused). It was stating the obvious but it was done in an “in case u don’t know” kinda way.
This quote didn’t seem funny it seemed like it was talking down to Jeezy fans-
“an apology is in order to folks who believe he’s one of the only artists left making radio waves who’s original.”
I was under the impression that the author(s) felt they were one of the few familiar with Dilla, Freeway, and Beans takes on those samples so they felt they needed to point it out to “Jeezy fans” who might not be familiar.
Get outta here with that shit!
I didn’t think anyone was hatin on the album. I don’t see TSS hatin on The Recession but individuals might. If you don’t like Jeezy then obviously The Recession isn’t your cup of tea but for Jeezy fans its nice when an artist u like drops an album worth coppin. More artist need to do that shit.
I just don’t think the Whoop Whoop shit would have been done with an artist that the ppl pointing out the obvious love. They wouldn’t have cared much to point out the obvious. Because its understood that thats hip hop, nothing new. But Jeezy has some samples on his album that have already been used and its a Whoop Whoop lets school these Jeezy fans post goes up.
Smh at LC.
“HHR telling us hip hop started with two turntables”
^Atleast when HipHopRealist said that shit I got the humor in it cause it was like well since LC thinks this post is worth posting then maybe he/she isn’t familiar with sampling in hip hop and thinks Don Canon, Dj Pain1, and Justice are the first producers to recycle a sample.
Its much more entertaining when samples are traced back to the originators (not the first time it was used in hip hop) if that had been done with the above exhibits and every other track on The Recession or any album then that would be one thing but this whole well that sample was used on Free At Last or Beans album that dropped in 2005 is kinda lame.
“Its much more entertaining when samples are traced back to the originators (not the first time it was used in hip hop) if that had been done with the above exhibits and every other track on The Recession or any album then that would be one thing but this whole well that sample was used on Free At Last or Beans album that dropped in 2005 is kinda lame.”
^lame to you maybe, but i knw I thought the post was very clever, and very entertaining – and i knw im not the only one.
I think some people r taking it wayy to seriously, it was a simple observation which was conveyed very well by the author. Very clever journalism IMO.
Flea – Shoot me an email so I can search my email. i think i did get those pics but they got lost in the shuffle.
I think some of you took this post (and perhaps yourselves) way too seriously lol. Go fly a kite. Have some fun.
and to think I thought people would be outraged by the recyling of the ad-libs…..