Words By David D.
When mentioning the best “beefs” in the post-Biggie/Pac era, people tend to point towards the Canibus/LL, Jay-Z/Nas or 50 Cent/Ja Rule altercations. One battle that is seemingly overlooked was the tooth and nail series of records between State Property and D-Block. While the tension building towards the epic Jay and Nas clash seemed to overshadow this feud, these MCs released numerous mixtape tracks and radio freestyles to one-up the competition. What resulted was one of the most high-quality, sustained beefs on wax we’ve been fortunate enough to witness.
The beef seemed to come out of nowhere. I remember reading an interview in which Jadakiss mentioned he ran Philly. Sigel was quoted in the same interview as adamantly disagreeing with Kiss’ assertion. I read the interview and thought nothing of it. That is, until Jadakiss threw a few lines Sigel’s way: “I’m a show you the reason why I’m the truth for real/ can’t fuck with Kiss, I meanie that/ had to quit eating red meat cuz I ate too many Beanie Macs.” The rest, as they say, is history. Let’s look back at all these back and forths from this underrated battle.
Beanie Sigel – “Kiss Your Name Goodbye”
Beans seemed ready for these jabs because he went full throttle at Kiss with the “Fuck Jada” freestyle over the beat to Kiss’ “Put Ya Hands Up.” Beans gnarls his way through three minutes of insults aimed at Jada. He goes for patented murder raps mixed with insinuations that Styles is Jada’s ghostwriter and even brings up the *gasp* shiny suits. Ouch.
Knockout Punch: “You really think you grimy too/ everybody liked you better in them shiny suits.”
This track seemed to be released as a companion piece with the Sigel diss as they would come out on the same mixtapes. Kiss only goes in for about a minute playing it off as though Sigel was a Jay-Z flunkie, making his money as a lackey. Granted, Kiss was promoting his album, but a response to the Beans track called for a few more bars than was given. Still, Jada gives us some gems in the little time he alots.
Knockout Punch: “I’m stuntin on a Disco beat/ you a fag, ya next rhyme should be on a Sisqo beat.”
Beanie Sigel and Jadakiss- “Powerhouse Show in Philly”
Here’s the long story short: There was a big showcase in Philly – Lox was there. Sigel was there. Diddy was there. Jada kicks an acappella freestyle and says “send Sigel a wire, I’m ridin again” and the Philly crowd goes apeshit. The freestyle seemed to not necessarily be written specifically for Beans except for the mention. Sigel, on the other hand, came out guns blazing later in the show when Diddy (still hurting off the “Free Lox” campaign) introduces him to the home crowd. The Broad Street Bully hurls off a bunch of recycled Biggie lines and some gruesome lyrics about Kiss’ mom while throwing the whole LOX crew under the bus and making reference to some sort of “special” relationship between the LOX members.
Knockout Punch: “You a bitch, without the pocket book and the wig/ How you talk that Pac shit, when you rolled with Big?“- Sigel
Freeway – “Listen Up” and “Power 99 Freestyle”
When Kiss said “you can take ya baby gorilla with you/ he dyin’ for free,” it would be only a matter of time before Freeway joined the fray. He was seen as Sigel’s buddy for most of 2001, but Free came through inspired with a track aimed at both Jada and Nas. Freeway only gives Jada the third verse as the song was most directly insulting Nas. The Power 99 freestyle was more focused as Free calls in (with his own hypeman on the line) to give Jada a few bars while throwing the whole LOX crew’s name in the rumble.
Knockout Punch – “Leave Kiss dead in the ocean/ Sheek might get better promotion…”
Young Gunz and Beanie Sigel – “Hot 97 Freestyles”
It seems like the Roc was on Hot 97 enough to have their own show in 2001. This time, they spent their radio time on disses to Nas and D-Block. The Young Gunz decided to hop in on the battle and send some shots while the battle was on everyone’s mind. Beans gave some old bars but it was really Young Chris that shined.
Knockout Punch – “You can’t scream D-Block at the same time connecting with the cops”
Sheek and Styles – “Jigga that Nigga” freestyle
Surprisingly quiet up to this point. Styles was obviously chomping at the bit to get everything off his chest, even throwing shots at Mr. Hova himself. This worked to get some of the edge back to D-Block while also substantiating a few claims that he was the stronger LOX member.
Knockout Punch- “All I see when ya niggas throw up ya sign is upside down pussy/ Fuck with me, I’ll leave you upside down, pussy” – Styles
Finally, we got a full D-Block track aimed at the Roc. Ehh, not exactly. Sheek and Jae Hood give a bunch of their standard gangsta ish but fail to mention Sigel, Freeway or anyone else in Roc-a-fella. Styles, though, makes sure that no one gets it twisted. From his first lines: “Holiday’s getting on you- fuck Beanie Sigel,” it was evident that this was going to be a scathing track. Styles continues on his rampage, spending a lot of time screaming in a manner that’s surprising to many familiar with the cerebral MC.
Knockout Punch – “How the fuck you the Roc when ya leader is soft?/ How the fuck you the truth?/ When it’s me you wanna be like when you get in the booth?”
It wasn’t soon after the rest of the LOX fellas hopped in that the beef subsided. The end to the feud had a lot to do with Sigel’s legal troubles. Kiss decided not to go the Shawty Lo route and diss the man in his trying times. That’s one of the reason this was such a good battle. There were no youtube videos or photoshopping gimmicks. It was just two cliques that wanted to prove who was the best. They are two of the most bona-fide hard ass groups in Hip-Hop yet they respected the history enough to keep everything on wax and come together a few years later. While it lasted, though, the State Property/D-Block series was great action.
You know the drill. Who won? Sound off.


Been waiting on this one…
D-Block for the win!!
LOX got that 1.
ALL NY ALL THE WAY D BLIDOOCK!!!
You gotta give Beans some love though. 1st time I heard that Powerhouse freestyle I was blown away. D-Block won but best 16+ has to go to Sig.
^^^ true, but Beans was basically facing 1 on 3
Wow! I was team D Block back then.
Powerhouse freestyle was nuts. Was looking for it online and aint know wtf to type in google.
Great post.
State Prop to me. Both crews went in though, and they both caught L’s during the battle.
u forgettin the ?empire strikes back” mixtapes that came out… there was like 3 mixtapes that came out wit the whole State Property/ROC FAM dissin LOX not jus beans and free…. oschino and sparks all went in on the lox, there was tons of tracks from free and beans and bleek was in it… im givin the dub to the ROC… i still rate them LOX niccaz HIGHER but as far as complete Onslaught for who had the illest bars im giving it to the ROC ARMY. strength in numbers!
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d-block all day. i mean, i fucks with beans and free but i really don’t see anyone fuckin with jada and styles…ever.
u forgettin the empire strikes back mixtapes which was filled wit tracks from Bleek, Oscino Sparks the Ranjahz, free the whole roc army goin in on LOX i still rate LOX higher then hese niggas i give the Win to the ROC. Strength in Numbers and wit all them freestyles and ill bars how could they lose!
I remember the pic Beans and Jada took after they squashed the beef. It was in the Source
Danny – Up that.
I vote….D-Block. And I actually voted too.
State Prop was a better crew too. I’m biased though because I was never a D Block fan.
this was a great beef…it was a tough one for me to call cuz i’m from the philly area but i’ve always been a huge lox fan…i had to give it to d-block tho at the end…same with the lox/fiddy beef
side note – anybody watchin the phillies/padres game on espn? peep the padres with the desert camo uniforms…shits are kinda fresh
I always wondered where that beat came from…fuck beanie. super dope.
dont worry im huntin for it its from 2001 hosted by dj envy if anyone got it or kno whereto look lemme kno im hunting
Sigel….I’m not saying the whole ROC…but Sigel killed Kiss with the first jawn…Kiss never recovered from the Sigel “Kiss Your Name Goodbye”
And if this is suppose to detail the entire saga, where’s the “Un Hunh” from off the album?
“….cuz i ate too many beanie macs”
“I’m about to son kiss like a soda”—
How is D-Block leading this? Total bullshit–Take any track up there and put it next to that first Sigel track….won’t last!!!
Indeed. Uh huh here we go again….
“Had to stop eating red meat cause I eat too many beanie macs”
you gotta read the intro
@ Mr. Rogers- the “Uh Huh” track is touched on in the intro…It was just an opening salvo to get it all started. But yea, I remember flipping the shit like I was about to watch an after-school fight when I heard that lol
d-block all the way..actually not all the way but ima give em da win
The Jada beat came from O.C.
YOU FORGOT THE STYLES JOINT OVER THE RAY- J WAIT A MINUTE BEAT
KNOCKOUT PUNCH: “AND THE ONLY THING YALL NIGGAS GONNA POP, IS THE CORKS ON THE WINE BOTTLES/ BETTER STOP FLASHING THE CASH/ WHEN I SQUEEZE 3, DON’T BE SURPRISED IF YOUR MAN HAPPENS TO DASSHH!”
THIS BEEF HAD MY FULL ATTENTION BACK THEN, I STILL REMEMBER ALL THE LYRICS TO ALL THE DISS SONGS
I can’t call it, but this is high-caliber legendary shit…in some regards, I’d say this battle is better than Nas & Jay in that State Prop & D-Block not only had the streets buzzing AND hanging on their every word & response, but the barrage of volleys back & forth was consistent & frequent…and these were street cats, so there was the possibility of some street shit popping off, which miraculously didn’t materialize, but the tension definitely added to the spectacle…folk from each crew definitely had to be on their A-game lyrically with guns blazing…
One of the last great battles that stayed on wax, hip-hop needs shit like this to keep it interesting…too bad that, nowadays, these dumbfucks gotta resort to primal shit like stealing on each other…just think of how much better the music would be if dudes could rap as well as they commit assault & battery
Damn, Marta Dominguez from Spain in the
3000M Steeplechase..WOW
That’s eq out of balance!!!!
One Beans track and a bunch of nothing. D-Block got it. Team Roc or State Prop or whatever you wanna call em are pretty weak, minus Beans.
I’m glad this was competition. Hearing Beanie and Styles P on the same track is a great thing
anybody remember this line?
rock the boat, rock the boat/thats one less bitch in a rocawear coat
that has to be the most disputed line in hip hop history..everybody say they heard it but can never provide audio
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/features/id.1201/title.ice-cube-true-to-the-game/p.1 he speaks about label ; nas, snoop concept albums .. !
I ain’t trippin’ too much, but your timeline is off for the start of that beef. The interview about Philly is what started it, but those Jada lines about eating too many Beanie Macs came after the first wave of mixtape disses and such, alluding to the fact that Jada thought he had already won.
Peace
whole
R.O.C > D-Block
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but L.O.X > State Property
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NYC… state of mind……………….and to me,
d block > dipset > g-unit
but
back in the days
dipset > gunit > dblock
commercially
gunit > dipset > dblock
imo I thought State Prop was alright until that Funk Flex freestyle session w/ Jay as the hype man. They went in, and Freeway actually dissed Nas almost every time he spit. His Oochie Wally freestyle is timeless. My boy is more of a Beans and State Prop fan, but he also was a big fan of The Lox so I got to hear everything over and over again. I voted State Prop b/c they cemented their legacy w/ this battle. The Lox didn’t put out near as many disses, and Beans was basically on his own until Free decided to help out. Beans > The whole Lox. At least at this time in his career.
whats good wit that nas track dissin roc where he says something like cruise down freeway eat beans fast. i need that. it was over the paid in full beat
@timekeeper
your time line is off, that song your referring to was off kiss’ first solo. Everything else happened afterwards. If you look back at that first mixtape w/dj envy he plays the line from the kiss’ song then goes into beans diss. I vote roc but barley b/c it seemed as if kiss’ underestimated beans and then realized oh shit i just got ate up, then the rest of the lox jumped in. The role players diss’ were also better from roc. I can’t remember a hot line from j-hood or sheek really. I know chris tore them up on that mobb deep beat from the hot 97 freestyles and beans on the special delivery beat.
Mna if y’all niggas broke that shit down line for line..D-BLOCK AIN’T WIN SHIT AND I WAS A HARDCORE FAN OF THEIRS…call a spade a spade…Sigel ripped kiss so bad all by himself and then them roc-a-fella radio freestyles just put the nail in the coffin…
Great battle but the Roc won…simply because of Chris and Sigel…they had the dopest verses out of everybody…
SIGEL SIGEL YA HEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beans Is A One Man Army On A Beat. Single Handedly In One Track Destroyed Everyone Of Them Niggas. The Whole Shit Produced An Excellent Time For Music Though.
No Looser, Both Sides Came Out Swinging
The L.O.X. ruined The Roc in this.