As with any lifestyle, Hip-Hop gets old from time to time — slipping into a state where I don’t want to hear another boom bap, basic 4, hi-hat tap, two-step-able beat. Events and shows become an obligation as I stand in the back choking down a bitter by-the-glass wine or Heineken. Even wack music becomes more attractive than average music because there’s way too much of the latter and a few brilliant, multi-faceted gems of the former.
But when I start having discussions about how “It’s So Cold In The D” makes “Cupcakin’” seem fresh, it’s my chief indication that:
A) The rap game is barely making par right now (bogies heavily outweighing birdies)
B) The Game is barely making par right now (…smh…)
C) It’s time to dust off the joints that remind me this is a lifestyle, not a hobby — I can neither turn my back on it, nor do I want to.
Here are the cuts that supersede any of my 40 Degree Days. The cuts that make me do the ugly face when they come on at the club or crib. The cuts that make all of the common garbage pass by with an eye roll and a track skip, knowing the great music is still out there and can still be produced for the masses…
Ghostface Killah – Nutmeg
Whether the opening soul sample, the looped flute and bass line, or RZA’s “…uptown, boo doop!…” nearly incomprehensible gift of rap gab, the joint goes hard as much as it hits the refresh button. Ghostface never fails to entertain, even when a nonplussed Hip-Hop head like yours truly gets blank faced.
Busta Rhymes – Everything Remains Raw
The kick at the top is dope, but it’s that snare snap before Bussa Buss drops the first “raw” that brings the spine tingle. Why have I rapped “I, make, sure ev-ery-thing re-mains, raw” to myself or in a person’s face for no reason at all on so many occasions?? You will understand when I form Voltron.
Kanye West Feat. Talib Kweli & Common – Get ‘Em High
Kudos to any DJ who drops the needle on this because even the chicks who don’t know what they’re listening to will hit the floor with their drinks up. The beat goes tough and Kanye’s quips alley-oop to one of Kweli’s best frivolous verses on record — the kind you commit to memory immediately.
Outkast – Red Velvet
Little did you know that, hidden in the clos-et, is an Outkast banger catching Zzzz from everyone. On black sheep Stankonia, nestled between the bizarre “Humble Mumble”s and vastly overplayed “Ms. Jackson”s, is this electro-grime tale taking you to a ho (HO) tel (TEL) room (ROOM) shot up. Shit is quotable as soon as you drive that bitch off the lot, lot, lot…
On a recent post, King Petey said:
“music today aint movin me yall.
I find myself listening to alot of eastcoast mid nineties joints.”
True indeed. And I use the aforementioned from the past to pull my interest back to present day. We have to keep it moving, which is why we’re always looking for new talent here at TSS that gets us excited about the future.
On the same day theeducation system said:
YOU guys need to realize that you can’t just invent the next big thing and stuff it down peoples throats until it becomes big…
But it’s not even about that. It’s about being so frustrated with the current Big Things we’re forced to look outside of what’s being shoved down our throats and ears. We’re not trying to create talent, we’re trying to hear it… because these Big Things are uninspiring.
Raise your hand if you’re tired of rappers arguing on YouTube about the man-on-man world of video games, ring tone download sales and diamond incrusted chains. That shit is funny, but it ain’t fresh anymore. What’s always been dope in Hip-Hop is being different — and the only way to be different now is to make great music.
Not decent music… not good music… Great music. With a capital G.
Everything else just makes my lifestyle feel like a hobby.
Previously Posted — Being Bow Wow


foist
i will repeat myself…can someone up that damn marvin gaye’s star spangled banner. its too funky, and google is a letdown…
Ayo, ain’t you meet that chick at that conference wit yo moms?
wtf? its like u read my mind. ask TC an he will tell u i just spoke this same shit to him about 10-15 min ago, no bullshit.
AMEN
And ain’t nobody better be sleeping on Red Velvet… shiiiiiiit…
Me and my friends argue about this all the time. I shouldn’t be bored with an art form less than 40 years old. Sites like TSS help with keeping thing fresh, but we have to do more. Until things change on a mainstream level, we won’t see any real changes. Not when you have 50 years making decisions on what gets released, and what gets played on TV and radio.
i think all the ti is hot, cept let my beat pound. i didnt like the last one 2 much
LOL. I think Idlewild may be the new black sheep…
and btw, im glad yung berg got his punk ass beat. i dont like that nigga one bit
I remember the first time I heard “Everything Remains Raw”… that little snippet of him and the Flipmode Squad in the truck at the beginning of the “Woo hah” video. I heard that beat … Oh my Gawwwwd!
@ LC… on the real, you can play just about anything from Supreme Clientele and get the same reaction from me. lol
TC, wheres my confirmation i was just sayin this to u? dont make me look like a liar man.
Yes. We were just discussing this. Gears are turning. Light bulbs lit.
awkwardly enough i was bout to defend hip-hop when my homie said it had gotten stale..til i realized they were right
I think I’m more tired of the “nobody gets even pinched” beefs, and the “hard” for no reason posturing. Its like damn man just rap!!!
i miss the days when all MCs did was rap, an endorse the occasional hood friendly products like St Ides.
Wit-E… hahaha fear not, I believed you with no TC confirmation. How could I not believe you? I think we’re all frustrated/jaded/underwhelmed/bored as fuck.
D. Howser… Yes and Yes. On both counts. I see you.
Yeah…Hip Hop has its moments of dryness.
It’s times like these when I explore other alternatives
of music. Which happens to pop up here pretty often.
I’ve been into live performance music lately.
“Everything Remains Raw” is one of my all time favorite tracks. Easy Mo Bee murdered that shit. That shit stays getting burn in the whip…LOUD.
off subject – but there’s 2 BLACK MEN playing at the US OPEN!!!
yeah, times like these can be pretty hard…one has to find solace in the occaisional surprise classic (IMO PATTG2 – still can’t take that shit out the cd player in the whip) or, as LC so eloquently put it, “dust off the joints that remind me this is a lifestyle, not a hobby.” On the plus side, it means (re)discovering some old gems that you may have forgotten (or were too high/drunk/young to appreciate at the time)…on the other hand, the shit can get old…you have to try and take solace in the fact that, in all honesty, hip-hop NEEDS periods like these…these are the times when frustrated fan becomes innovative artist, and turns the game on it’s fuckin head
sorry to contribute to the mediocrity….
T-Pain ft. Lil Wayne – Can’t Believe It (Official Video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYW1-1CEdE
^^ lmao.
ill picks, so glad other people appreciate Red Velvet lol. Oh, and whenever i need that feelin I throw on AZ – Rather Unique…
Seems like you “Red Velvet” lovers are a minority lol.
And that T-Pain song is sick.
hahaha you just called a T-Pain song “sick.” Dance-able, maybe. Drunk-tastic, for sure. But sick?
You come back to me in as many years as the rest of us been loving “Red Velvet” and tell me if you still think T-Pain is sick.
You know I still love you though, boo boo.
Nice post LC – I agree that hip-hop gets stale every so often, and it’s always nice to mix it with a lil’ bit of something else. That said, not everything is so bad – I know I’m excited as hell for the new Young Jeezy album. Every cut off that has been ridiculous thus far – I think we’re looking at album of the year potential. I know I’ll catch some shit for that, but whatever – that album is going to be a beast, and you can mark my cracka ass words.
And in a few short weeks, Supreme Clientele will forever be known as a poor man’s DJ Khaled – We Global.
Hip hop isn’t getting stale or boring, it just doesn’t apply to you all the time!
When cats talk bout taking it back to 88′ or 96′, whateva random year ninjas is on these days, I tell em “you are by your gott-damn self dawg”…I’m all about keeping it moving and progressing, and if you don’t like the current state of “hip-hop” then make some beats, spit some bars, dead this whole “Ed-Hardy rock star” style and come up with something new, being an ole’ L7 ass hater accomplishes NOTHING!
Bottom line is…rap ain’t changed from its glory days you have!
sidenote: that pic made me think…I’m I the only one who call dudes out who rock the CD players (discman) with headphones in public…I’m always like “cuz go get an mp3 player or sumthin, you look ridiculous!”
Red Velvet is the ish… TC is 4ever da Hater
Outkast=Hip-Hop
T-Pain=Pop
Apples and oranges people.
If “Red Velvet” is the shit, then I guess “Spaghetti Junction” is a sewer.
Listen to Thugnificence people. He set the stage…
Ok I was side tracked with tennis, but nice read LC, and I like Red Velvet & the T-Pain song/vid. If not for the middle men, 1 hit wonders, & sideline DJ’s what would we do here at TSS. I remember the first quarter this year do u……
Thugnif… I’m with you, not against you on that one. There is no other year I’d rather be in because future potential far exceeds pining over yesteryear.
But what I’m saying is, man… sometimes shit gets a little fuzzy. And I have to remind myself with a few certain joints that this shit still makes me happy. Cause I be frownin a lot when I turn on the radio, fam.
This summer??? OOoowee. Summer is supposed to be the time when classics are made.
…I’m still waiting.
They got about a month left before fall, and what we listening to? Some average rappity rap from Game and Weez on the autotune, some Kard and Akon (again on the autotune) that gets old before “Jessica P,” and Chris Brown intertwined on some Enrique Iglasias 1998 knock-off about gum.
Fam, I’m not saying shit’s unbearable… I just find myself playing the joints that remind me of Greatness more often than I’m finding new shit that can be on that level.
i get you, good write up.
but my thing is this:
what is Great music? everyone has a different definition of it.. and that’s what makes hip hop so great- opinion.
hip hop ain’t dead as long as we all arguing!!
my .02
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ktm-x-bow-scale-model/558541/
I want.
LC i hear ya…ain’t nothing wrong with listening to good music, I take it back to the 70′s, 80′s, 90′s & the new millenium on a regular basis.
But I quote Witchdoctor when I think about the music in 08′ “this could be the best year we eva had”…
I purchased (own hard copies of) Badu, Killer Mike, Little Brother, Zo & Tigallo, The Roots, (Nas & Plies wit honorable mentions) & I plan on buying Jeezy and Big Boi.
Now I realize that there ain’t any “new school” cats on that list but it takes awhile for those guys to get your money…people on TSS talked about The Cool Kids foreva before I even thought about wasting the time on a download.
I ain’t taking shots at nobody, my comments are aimed at people who can’t see the forest for the trees…
Artists that do dope stuff, i’m taling longplayers-beginning to end and back again:
Dave Hollister
Redeemed Thought
Beckah Shae
Shai Linne
Da Truth
Trip Lee
Adrianne Archie
Christion
Lecrae
R-Swift
the Roots
Pigeon John
Blackalicious
Jill Scottr
hymefest
Japhia Life
jazzy jeff
murs
ledisi
alice smith
pigeon john
raphael saadiq
http://www.crossmovementrecords.com
I dunno… I live and breathe this shit, and have for some time to the detriment of relationships, etc, so if being “one of those cats” means I have a healthy respect for the places this art form can go, and has been, and also have a vivid memory of the times past and present that artists have taken it beyond its’ limits, then I’ll just be one of “those dudes”…
In ’06, ’07, ’08 unfortunately that means being labeled a hater.
I keep a healthy ADHD and open ear for the next “big” thing because I LOVE this music and culture, and am occasionally pleasantly surprised, and in turn root for that artist wholeheartedly… and there’s quite a few new cats who do their thing but stay rooted in “that good shit”…
BUT if I “graded” what I know up against what I’m hearing, wouldn’t I be doing this thing I love a disservice if I graded on some sort of curve? If cats ain’t bringing it, they just ain’t bringing it, and I’m sorry if this is your era (speaking to no one in particular), but yo, a LOT of this shit just ain’t fly. The game isn’t even predicated on the elements that make it fly anymore (Ringtones, sales, style over substance —> swagger), so it’s hard to even blame the artists sometimes. they’re doing what they know, and I can see the shit mutating into something that’s hardly recognizable anymore…
and that’s cool IF that doesn’t mean that it’s becoming diluted in the process….
Originality, attention to flow (HELLO! You ARE speaking to an audience), and enough put out to offset “the bullshit” are killing this mofo like a weed does the flowers…
I enjoy watching Kobe, but if I gotta be the pebble in his shoe that tells him he ain’t no Mike, then so be it…
I mean, fcuk an NBA analogy, love your girl/lady, but be honest enough to tell her she got mustard on her chin, or needs to lose a few pounds…
AMEN.
OED nailed it.
There’s no grading on a curve @ TSS
Word life LC….dope post
I’d say luchini would be on my list though.can’t ever grow tired of that joint
LC rocks.
TC, T-Pain, sick? You’re the sick one, apparently.
The rest of the crew, I see you sneaky lil bastards….wats good? TSS=Major
OED, spot on, chap.
Michelle Obama is da woman !!!
I tip my fitted-cap to Thugnif: My thoughts exactly my ninja. If what you’re hearing ain’t moving you then find something else!!! I’ve heard plenty of bangaz this year, and I’m looking forward to the rest of the year too. There’s waaaaaaaay too much hiphop out there to make such a statement that hiphop is stale at times; there’s a lot of bullshit but there is dope music to be discovered also. Whaddup LC!!!
I tip my fitted-cap to Thugnif: My thoughts exactly my ninja. If what you’re hearing ain’t moving you then find something else!!! I’ve heard plenty of bangaz this year, and I’m looking forward to the rest of the year too. There’s waaaaaaaay too much hiphop out there to make such a statement that hiphop is stale at times; there’s a lot of bullshit but there is dope music to be discovered also. Whaddup LC!!!
I tip my fitted-cap to Thugnif: My thoughts exactly my ninja. If what you’re hearing ain’t moving you then find something else!!! I’ve heard plenty of bangaz this year, and I’m looking forward to the rest of the year too. There’s waaaaaaaay too much hiphop out there to make such a statement that hiphop is stale at times; there’s a lot of bullshit but there is dope music to be discovered also. Whaddup LC!!!
Sorry for the triple post, I dropped my cereal bowl on the “ENTER” key!!! lol!!!
A Crew from L.A : The GodBody
Album called “We Are The GodBody” probably in 2009. With joints by
Dr. Dre, Hi-Tek, Just Blaze, Mark Batson ,Britten (new producer) and Dawaun Parker. but now and before listen this :
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=7HQPF4Z6
The Godbody – Beef (Prod By Dr Dre & Dawaun Parker)
The GodBody – Beef (Prod By Dr Dre & Dawaun Parker) (Instrumental)
The GodBody – Drop (Produced By Dawaun Parker) (Instrumental)
The GodBody – Get To It (Produced By Dawaun Parker) (Instrumental)
peace yall.
plus :
http://unboxing.gearlive.com/unbox/article/q208-unboxing-live-038-monster-beats-by-dr-dre-headphones/
thanks, y’all
bad grammar, punctuation, multiple Coronas, and lack of sleep notwithstanding,…
Despite what we’re led to think about the summer, the 3rd & 4th quarter are what makes or breaks a year. Especially from Aug. on out. Singles rule the summer for the most part. Even Jay who “ruled” for 8 summers did it with a hot song, not an album.
As for yesteryear vs. present: I stand firmly with one foot on each side. I need the older stuff to remind me why I like this music so much & I need that new stuff to keep the relationship fresh. I check new cats on my own schedule though. They may sit on the hd for a week or month before they get a listen just to get an unbiased ear.
I just woke to a text from Rich [Huredia] saying Dr. Dre’s son passed away???
Can anyone confirm this?
Coming from Segal I tend to believe it.
But I hope not.
http://www.dubcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=190996.0 Dr Dre in studio with him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jU6B3ryDpY
@ the real a
yes. “Andre Young Junior” is dead today. http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/08/26/Dr_Dres_son_found_dead
and he ain’t Hood surgeon (the other son of the doctor).
but if someone have some tracks about hood surgeon. thx in ad.
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*yawn*
good morning people!
SCOOBYSNACKJURRASSICPLASTICGASSEDBOOBYTRAP
10 YEARS WORKIN FOR ME! YOU WANNA TAP SHIT?!?!?!
BONGBONGBONG YA BELL GOT RUNGRUNGRUNG!!!!
My day has officially started.
The fact of the matter is this- Hip-Hop is that Woman (or man) you’re madly in love with no matter what. For some reason, they got you in that spell- no matter how much they cheat, abuse, fart in they sleep or whatever, they know as well as you do that you ain’t leaving. So you can go out to the bar and complain to your homies all you want and reminisce about the first date and first taste you had- but fact is, you gonna marry that bitch no matter what. So, basically, she can treat you like shit knowing you ain’t gonna leave, or she can step her game up- even though she doesn’t have to- out of some goodwill desire to see you happy too. But y’know what, every few months she gonna bust out that sexy lingerie, cook you a big ass steak and try some freaky shit you ain’t done in a long ass time- then you gonna roll over and remember why it’s all been worth it.
Scene.
Red Velvet AND Nutmeg?! LC- you are the shit- but you already know that (but yet you don’t and that’s what’s so cooooool)
“cuz go get an mp3 player or sumthin, you look ridiculous!”
hope you don’t see me…I’ll still rock a Walkman Personal Stereo if I feel like it, I let my tape rock, till my tape…
Does the new era give something worth listening to…yeah, sure…is it going to match the “golden age” would be the question and the answer is no. The youth don’t think it’s “hot” to be on something from 2 months ago…doesn’t last…always want something “new” and new doesn’t mean “fresh.” I have and will continue to listen to the catalogue 86-98ish and add in from the “here and now” but those getting “in” now will not repeat the cycle…the majority of what’s droppin will not have staying power.
but you best believe just cause he or she is still on the cd-tape-(god forbid)vinyl does not mean they are not wormin to the fullest.
Why you think I posted all those Jazz joints the other day? I am one of hip hops biggest and longest fans…But i still cant listen to it 24/7…The game’s been stale.
Did my eyes deceive me or were there people calling that new T-pain hot?
Music today makes me throw-up a little in my mouth. I remember when it used to make me feel good.
Nick Says:
And ain’t nobody better be sleeping on Red Velvet… shiiiiiiit…
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Major Co-Sign
This and the song about Teesha stayed on rewind off that album… Cause they said something .. BREAKKKKKKKK
Bill Gates don’t dangle diamonds in the face/ of peasants when he Microsofting in the place
When are we the consumers going to take some of the responsiblity for the decline in quality music in all genres? The entertainment industry is a copy cat industry by nature; they are in it to make money. If they see Company A making money with an artist using the vocoder. Guess what Companies B through K are going to do, find artist to do the same damn thing. People always talking about oh Hip Hop was better in the early 90′s. Guess what there were just as much wack rappers in the 90′s as today. You think labels put out artist like Brand Nubian, Paris, The Coup, PE, X-Clan, PRT, Tribe, JB’s, KRS-1, etc because they believed in uplifting the peope. HELL NO, they put those groups out because as PE sold records they wanted a piece of that action.
T-Pain sucks balls!!!
^ No NO
That’s the vocoder that makes his voice sounds like that
LOL
Mundy said
“And in a few short weeks, Supreme Clientele will forever be known as a poor man’s DJ Khaled – We Global.”
::jojo at 1:50::