Gotty’sâ„¢ Note — Trackstar is Crew without officially being labeled as a Crew member. He’s been around since the Blogger days & always contributed in various ways. Sometimes with interviews or dropping off his latest mixtape and, other times, behind the scenes much more than you know.
When he told me that he would have a chance to hear T.I. speak to the residents of a local juvenile detention facility, I felt obligated to share it with you. Added into his weekend edutainment was a chance to hear Michael Eric Dyson give a lecture as well. You can read the full piece on Track’s site (he’s a DJ, not a blogger), but here’s an excerpt.
Last weekend I was lucky enough to witness, in the span of about 20 hours, two of Black America’s foremost public leaders address their constituents live and in-person.
Friday night, at the University of Missouri-St Louis, Michael Eric Dyson spoke at the Black Radical Congress’ 10th Anniversary opening ceremony, to a crowd, presumably mostly Black radicals or at least inclined towards Dyson’s way of thinking, who had paid to see him speak. He addressed Barack Obama’s candidacy and its effects with eloquence, charisma, and an excellent balance of academic and street talk.
The next day, karma paid off nicely: I was lucky enough to be one of the few non-”residents” to hear Clifford Harris, better known as T.I., address a sea of red, blue, green, yellow and orange sweatsuits at the Circuit Court 22 Juvenile Detention Center as a result of my volunteering there. While he was there to fulfill his community service requirement as part of his sentencing on gun charges, his 45 minute speech had every bit of the swagger, intelligence, heart and wittiness (not to mention his unbelievably thick-in-person accent) he displays in his music.
His influence and impact on the kids was evident from before he even arrived. While waiting for him to traverse security and make his way to the cafeteria, the incarcerated youth sat more quietly and appropriately than I have ever seen them before—and any door creak or footstep in the hallway was greeted by 70 heads quickly swiveling towards the door.
Both men spoke of being realistic when choosing your methods in life. Dyson discussed the practicality of Obama’s potential presidency as well as the role from which Black radicals can affect the most change, while T.I. questioned how likely it was for the young men in the room to actually make a living (and a life) out of doing the wrong thing.
“Most cats that’s livin like that is rottin in prison and those not locked wish they made better decisions”-NYOil, F***ing Dumba**
He started by making it very clear that he wanted the youth to differentiate between real life and entertainment—and the difference between the messages in his records, and what he was about to say. Whether speaking as T.I., T.I.P., or Cliff Harris, his authority in the room was unquestioned. The youth knew that T.I. grew up similar to them, and that he had been locked up many times–that he could relate to them in a way that many of the speakers who visit them never could.
“There ain’t probably nothing that any of you in this room have done that I ain’t did. Well, it might be a few of you who mighta done one or two things I ain’t done, but it’s not much.”-T.I.
His focus for much of his time was instructing the youth on how to “get money”, but along the way he slipped in diverse lessons on listening to your elders, on weighing risk and reward, on hope, hard work and on the power we all possess over our destinies.
– Read the rest of “T.I. Vs. M.E.D.” @ Hurt Me Soul.


It raises an interesting point that Tef Poe and I were discussing earlier about the effectiveness of the activist hip hop community—so often “conscious” rappers and events speak only to the relatively small number of fans of “conscious rap” and, though their music may in many ways educate and motivate, this “preaching to the choir” effect leaves the masses, necessary to any revolution, untouched. To this end, we decided that despite Dyson’s great speech, his credentials, and his reputation as a radical, it was Cliff Harris who had the more revolutionary effect on his audience.
What do YOU think?
The title of this post period is missleading.
I’ve heard Dyson speak at UNL, and its only like 50 people there. He and Angela Davis. Dyson is one of my favorite speakers. As Track stated, he speaks intellectually and ebonically. I love it. I kinda wish Obama did that. Though, I don’t think he’d be as far as he was today.
I kinda wish Obama did that. Though, I don’t think he’d be as far as he was today.
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Yeah, Mr. O can’t do that in his position. Too many people ready to (mis)interpret everything that comes out that brother’s mouth to further their own agendas.
The posts’ heading caught me out there too.
I was sighing and shaking my head before I even started reading, on some, “ahhhh DAMN, now what are these two beefin’ fo’?” sh*t.
Mr Dyson is one of my most favorite speakers…
Good stuff I suppose…
cause the Big Homie Drops Gemz !!!!
good post, tss. i’m reading the rest of track’s post as we speak.
i have profound respect for both t.i. and edyson. i’m sure that their words were felt by both sets of attendees.
hands down, the best quote track posted:
“He made very clear that no one should expect success and money to come strictly by doing what one wants to do all the time—the key is to “do what you don’t want to do so well that no one can tell you don’t want to do it”.”
…damn, that’s so on point…that i might make that shit into a tshirt and slang it.
Last weekend I was lucky enough to witness, in the span of about 20 hours, two of Black America’s foremost public leaders address their constituents live and in-person.
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Let’s not ever refer to T.I. as a Black leader again. Agreed?
Peace Images,
The problem that Cliff, Jay and others have is while they can reach a larger audience than a Dyson Cornell West or others is the conflicting messages they send.
You can’t brag about dumbing down to double your dollas then sit infront of a room full of aspiring artists telling them about integrity and ethics. You can’t build up an image of being a D-boy or a Snowman, then tell a bunch school kids to stay in school.
You can’t rap about how you won’t vote and refuse to follow politics because politics is BS then turn around and complain about why the DNC and RNC are pimping your community.
You can’t push rock and terrorize your hood 330 days out the year then hand out turkeys on thanks giving and secret santa gifts and wonder why people don’t trust you.
But “do as i say, not as i do/advocate doing” aside, you can’t front the intellects/activists off as “bougie” and prop yourself up as voice the people then do nothing with that voice.
way too many cats with deals and platforms do absolutely nothing until after they have no choice.
^Somebody say Dr.Cornell West…I’m awake now!!!
yeah that was passionate. TI’s message is essentially imperfect based on who its coming from. I’m not completely knocking it but to know better and know one can do better, and then turn around and say “I wanna be like you Uncle Frank.” is the exactly the kind of confusion thats leading the youth astray. You need guts to change the future, because its not difficult to end up in a juvenile detention center. But maybe just maybe we’re moving into an era where black people care enough about what happens to black people to do something real.
Ms Shai,
I agree; but doing better for artists has to start with the art they make. I’m not asking everybody to be Dead Prez or The Roots, but we gotta do more than be wild out ignoramuses for 3-5 albums then wait till we sitting on stacks in the gate communes to get our Arthur Ashe and Dick Gregory on.
Similar vein:
Shad – Brother (Watching)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oDQ49tLg5w0
yeah you right
“Let’s not ever refer to T.I. as a Black leader again. Agreed?”
I didn’t call him a Black leader, but one of Black America’s foremost public leaders…which I stand by. For better or worse, he is one of those…
and re: Peace Images–she was just quoting me from the other blog…
my point wasn’t that T.I. is more of a revolutionary than M.E.D…..not hardly.
just a conjecture that more revolutionary changes were made THAT day in THAT room than the night before.
if T.I. were to spend 30 minutes every day speaking to a group of detained youth, i think it would make a significant difference in the future of the communities those kids come from…
imagine if T.I., Wayne, Rick Ross, etc… ALL did that…
in the absence of Jay following through on “buying the whole hood llamas on ME!” i can’t think of a better way to start changing things…for better or worse, like it or not, these dudes are the leaders for the next generation…
(and yo i know this was from another post but that MF has 97 comments!–DJ Jamad did a mixtape with Coultrain that is in the stray shots here:
http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/?p=5246
for those following the St Louis underground hip hop scene–
Coultrain is the D’Angelo of this shit…lol…
that soul dude with the hip hop edge as well who is sick as hell. his debut The Adventures of Seymour Liberty is WELL worth the purchase…haven’t peeped the mixtape but I can’t wait.
that is all)