I just finished reading Grandmaster Flash’s autobiography, The Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash (More on the book later), and this particular excerpt that had to be shared.
Too often, those of us in the here wonder why Rakim was and still is so revered as an emcee. I even remember hearing him for the first time and I know I’ve told the tale. When you heard him for the first time, you were mesmerized. Period. But having been a little too young to fully remember all the way back to remember the impact of the first generation of Hip-Hop, of which Flash was not only a member but an originator, it was insightful to hear his take on Rakim’s effect on lyrics & rapping.
“Rakim brought so much new thought and technique to the game when he rhymed, it was like he singlehandedly reinvented the art form of being an MC. When it came to verbal acrobatics, no other MC came close. If everybody else’s raps were like nursery rhymes, Rakim’s were like Shakespeare.
Before Rakim, MCs would rhyme “cat” with “bat,” or maybe “pretty” and “witty” if they wanted to get cute. Rakim rhymed polysyllabic words like “residence” and “presidents.” Before Rakim, people started and ended verses in complete thoughts. Rakim would leave you hanging with an idea, just to make it rhyme, but finish the thought in the next sentence. Before Rakim, most rappers would set up one rhyme per line. Rakim would load up entire verses with so many continuous rhymes, I’d have to listen to them three or four times just to catch everything, marveling at how every phrase was a hook, every verse a complicated play on words.”
Eric B. & Rakim – Paid In Full 12″
Eric B. & Rakim – Follow The Leader 12″
Previously Posted — “Standing By The Speaker, Suddenly I Had This…” | TSS Presents 15 Minutes With Grandmaster Flash


its too bad his aftermath stint didnt amount to much “dre kept wanting me to bring the guns out…” is what rakim had to say about it.
aftermath fell the fuck off.
either dre or em or aomebody better drop a single QUICK.
this is karma for them fucking around so many niggas careers.
I’d sign him quick if I had bread like that. Straight market him to the 30+ crowd. “Give me how you see today thru your lenses”
It’s been a long time
I shouldn’t have left you
without a fresh rhyme to worm to
Definition of The God MC. I remember when I first heard of him was a magazine (I think it was Blaze, not sure) that listed the Top 50 MCs (I think) this was like back in 99-00 when I was in High School.
I was trying to figure out what the hype was all about. My uncle schooled me by making me listen to his Paid in Full tape. Been a fan ever since.
yet cats wanna sniff on these cats asses who havent even earned a right to be call an MC….RESPECT THE PAST SO YOU CAN BUILD ON THE FUTURE
I wanna see which posse can worm the best
It should be easy ’cause the beat is fresh
You know, given the right beats, I’d listen to a new album from Ra. Hell, I’m still listening to old Ra some mornings.
Thinking of today, what MCs are having a similar effect on the game & gettin respect from their peers?
Weezy’s name comes up, but who else?
Rakim Allah.. god MC
maximum respect – always
I think you speak for most us older snobs when you say you were mesmerized the first time you heard him. I know I was.
I was on a freestyle bike & we rode like 5-7 miles to this park where everybody hung at, they had lil ramps & shit set up. And they had a sound system set up.
Rakim was pumpin LOUD, like you could hear it a few streets away. When we got to the spot, it was like a trance. People were moving all around but wasn’t shit going on for me except the music.
I’m like Flash: you just knew it was different.
Mesmerized? Dude made me wanna write… It was crazy because most of FTL and PID came from notebooks the kid stacked up by the time he was 18. So you had a cat speaking with crowds instead of talking down to them or yelling at them.
Rakim came from a generation of emcees that bragged about craftsmanship. They bragged about their notebooks and sitting down and writing and thinking things out before they grabbed a mic. Even the ones who sucked always admitted to trying to write at least.
Nowadays fools on some “I don’t need a pen or a pad to make fire” ish.
Yes you do idiot, yes you do.
Cats luv to be illiterate now.
The other thing about Rakim that i always dug, was in interview after interview he’d say, that he was from the hood, but that wasn’t all he was. That’s why he intentionally never rhymed about claiming to be some thug, stick up kid, d-boy, etc. because he was like 90% of cats in the hood–non-criminal.
By the way, his aunt is Ruth Brown–famous old school Blues and R&B singer. His pops was a musician, too. He grew up with elders who had a sense of craftsmanship about what they did.
Dude was far from perfect, and I don’t by the Arms Leg Leg Arm Head stuff, as cool as it sounds. (Only one God and Christ came for him.) but nonetheless, the brother crafted some truly dope work filled with textures and ideas.
Not enough of that going on these days.
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Man, Follow The Leader was just so ill.
Traveling at magnificent speeds around the universe, etc… Who else did that?
He was so far ahead of his time then, and the lack of video exposure only added to his aura.
Trance is the perfect word to describe how it felt to hear those early cuts for the first time.
That song he did on the 8 Mile soundtrack still goes hard as fuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Hell yeah, I still remember his verse on The Watcher Pt. II on the Blueprint 2. He said something about seeing the whole scene on a panaramic screen or something. It was crazy.
@ Gotty: Who’s having that impact today?
I dunno. Jay did for a minute.
I wonder about weezy–the whole word association/swag thing has been around longer than Weezy (UMC’s might’ve planted that seed). But Weezy’s making a career out of it for sure.
I don’t know that anyone’s laying groundwork like that anymore. If anything guys like Ra, Kane, UMCs, De La, etc. reminded everyone that it was cool to be different and that being black didn’t mean studio thuggin’ like it does now. So everybody tried to outdo each other by being themselves as best as they could. Dudes that seemed like they were biting got laughed at more than they got embraced.
Maybe Black Thought fits your question, Gotty. He’s dope, pushes his game forward, but never gets his due… Com at least has his own lane, mostly.
In terms of major influence, I used to think Meth and Wu were gonna do it; but they’re in their own world (in a good and a bad way.)
I think guys like Shai Linne, Da Truth, 4th Ave Jones, maybe Gift of Gab are getting there. But if you’re talking like dropping the Grandslam of classics like Ra did with FTL, PID, DSTT, LTRHE (let the rhythm hit ‘em), i dunno know that you’ll see that again from anybody. Ra dialed in and blacked out for 4 straight albums…
Nas was hailed as the new Razilla, but i just never saw that level of consistency in vision or catalog from Nasir as i saw in Ra. Nas was just to self-contradictory and all over the place for me.
The biggest issue i had with Ra on Aftermath also occurred with Busta: After a whole career of concepts predicated on storytelling, social commentary, conflicts with hood life, reporting it without celebrating it, dope lyricism, Rakim jumps on a track with Truth Hurts as…
a Dope Boy.
As nice as that single was, all i could think was, “bruh, you 40 years old and now you’re running from cops with pockets fulla roc? Are you for real?”
I mean, Ill Will Griffin went from, “As the earth gets further and further away… planets small as a ball of clay…” to “you was there for my half a gram/now it’s kilos and c-notes and high fashion brands.”
If God’s reduced to huggin’ corners to get over, Christ must be pimpin’ cherubs or something.
Still, Ra’s place in the game is on lock.
the guy should just do a full album with the also very underappreciated in today’s game — DJ Premier — producing EVERY track
= game over
Peniz for the win!!
*Did I really just say that?*
I sent a message about that writers position to
TSS.Crew@Gmail.com
tsscrew@smokingsection.net
tsscrew@gmail.com
and I got a message back that said
:
Recipient’s mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
did the message go through at all?
penis won.
Im so tired of judging shit on a won/ fail level.
lol… @ AMP.
Preme did the When I Be On The Mic joint a while back. Borderline classic from Razilla.
I think dude working with a live band like the Roots (cliched i know) could be solid. Maybe a Salaam Remi or an Ant from Atmosphere could slide a few joints his way. even a Chief Xcel even–something soundscapy like the blackalicious work.
I dunno…
maybe Prof Griff’s time has passed and we just have to appreciate the body of work that’s already there.
or not.
guess only time will tell.
BPayton – I hit you back sir.
I’m gonna make ya’ll feel old…first rakim album- 18th Letter. Shit changed my life. Before that album, I was listening to Timbaland and Magoo’s first album. After that album, I bought Wu Tang Forever. Should tell you how much that impacted my music tastes…
Who the eff listened to Timbaland & Magoo?
j/k
if marley marl can do full albums with craig g and krs-one why can’t rakim do a full album with dj premier???
if marley marl can do full albums with craig g and krs-one why can’t rakim do a full album with dj premier???
I think guys like Shai Linne, Da Truth, 4th Ave Jones, maybe Gift of Gab are getting there. But if you’re talking like dropping the Grandslam of classics like Ra did with FTL, PID, DSTT, LTRHE (let the rhythm hit ‘em), i dunno know that you’ll see that again from anybody. Ra dialed in and blacked out for 4 straight albums…
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I know speaking on mixtapes highly is sacrireligious to you dudes, but there’s a few artists who, if you count their albums & mixtapes, have managed to change shit up for the whole game.
Add Lupe’s name beside Wayne’s if so. Not a Lupe Stan in the least but…yeah, he’s got cats changing how they approach their music.
if marley marl can do full albums with craig g and krs-one why can’t rakim do a full album with dj premier???
Somebody gave me that first Tim and magoo joint a sa gift–not a gag gift either. Magoo was like Mase, but with actual flow. In small doses I thought dude was gonna be good. Neva happened. I hear he writes and produces a lot with Tim, still.
I thought Roscoe P. Coldchain was gonna be big too. He had a bizarre swaggerish-Beans-meets- angry-spokenword-ghetto-coffeeshop flow.
Then he got pinched and… well. Not sure what he’s doing now.
I hated 18th letter. I just thought with a couple exceptions it sounded like some back-in-the-booth-again sessions that just got put out.
‘Member The Master? That was a bad album, too. Couple nice singles but a long, bad album.
if you combined 18th letter with the Master, you’f have 1 great album…
then you could–wait what did somebody say about “everybody’s a critic now?”
thinks it’s time to go eat dinner and leave folks alone.
i guess he didnt know the ledge.
like Mase?
nah, the cat was like a bootleg Q-Tip…ecghk
Fans have been trying to pass that torch to Lupe, Wayne, Joe Budden, and prolly a few others I’m forgetting, but none of them cats has floored me like that.
Prolly (for me) has a lot to do w/ style (swag/charisma) being more revered than rhyme skills.
I’ll give Lupe his props as an emcee, but sumn about dude (the voice?) just doesn’t do it for me over long stretches of time.
You heard the god on that Nike joint with ‘Ye.
I’m with Petey, Dr. Dre fucked up.
Yo Gotty
I got luv for mixtapes, but i think Wayne’s mixtape work runs together after a while, don’t you? The other problem wit mixtapes is everybody’s a DJ so you don’t know which tapes to “count” in your assessment of an emcee’s body of work and which not to.
Do i count the official label-sanctioned joints or the Datpiff’s of the world. Wayne’s got like 193 tapes over there but only 7 of ‘em are sanctioned. Conversely, did Pac ever do a single mixtape–not that he’s got the crown, but he’s up there.
but if you wanna count mixtape contributions, we gotta bump Jada and Fab up on the list, don’t you?
For that matter, doesn’t Chamillionaire or Ghostface get bumped up?
@ amp and Canseco…man that first single from that Tim & Magoo album was crack. (Some up jumps the boogie joint or something…). Of course I haven’t listened to this song in years and I was like 11 or 12. so BACK OFF! lol
Sigh…I will admit that I have inserted Magoo into a Rakim discussion. I don’t think I can ever forgive myself.
Lol… Magoo and Rakim–two names you’ll never hear in the same sentence again.
how could i forget 50–dude brought the mixtape game back for emcees. Tone Touch, Flex etc were stars, but 50 made u check for a tape knowing it was just him and the occasional guest emcee…
Talib’s gotta go up there too. his mixtape output’s been fierce for a while now.
Rakim is a true EMCEE, not just a rapper calling himself “the greatest rapper alive”. The masses of this “Hip Hop/Rap” world have become so “visual” with the advent of music videos, youtube, terrible ass magazines, BET (Black Man’s own personal Devil), etc. that the true skills that were necessary to create a vision through lyrical skill have been completely overlooked (just as the inclusion of DJ’s). Now that we’re in a age where record labels and media outlets dictate who’s good and who’s not the entity of Hip Hop has really lost it’s way (or sold it’s soul). In today’s “game” you don’t even have to have rhyme skills to become a rapper (what’s up Rick Ross). Cats don’t bring anything to the table and it seems that the masses don’t want them to bring anything except ignorant worthless jargon. The whole Ice-T Vs Soilja Boy debate actually has a valid point if you listen to what Ice-T is really saying. Hardcore Hip Hop of yesterday has sold out to become a retarded version of Pop Hop bullshit. This didn’t just start with today’s artist either…..Run-DMC gets lots of credit for “pushing the envelope” with that “Walk This Way” joint. Just my opinion….
Rakim = still MILES ahead of all competition
a TRUE master…
Yo Gotty, scan ya boy Suave a copy of that Grandmaster Flash book :)
I was about 13 when I first heard Rakim (shit I wasn’t even allowed to listen to anything else but spanish and religious music til around 9).
Up until that point the only rap I heard came from what was on the radio (and there was no such thing as an all rap station at that point here).
So when I heard the way that dude was spittin I remember thinkin, “Yo what the fuck is he sayin on this shit…”
It took a couple of listens before i figured most of it out (and even then I had still not even caught all the 5% refrences and shit like that)
Basically that was the first dude that made wanna study this rap shit like that.
I learned a lot in a short period of timed.
I’m gonna have to check out that book now Gotty…
….man, let be known to be consistent on my shit. i’ve said numerous times on any posts anyone has ever made as it pertains to the GOD…or who’s the best MC ever.
my.
answer.
remains.
the.
same.
RAKIM.
…the man changed the fucking game…and is the sole inspiration as to why i even give a fuck about hiphop today.
salute.
that.
fucking.
man.
Rakim. <<<< Modern rhyme begins here.
R.A.K.I.M.
emcee > rapper
hiphop > rap
huslte > gangste
respect > money
and
ying > yang
hustle >
I got my first listen to Rakim from my mother. She was a hip hop head when I was a kid and Ra, Whoudini, and LL got many a spin in our household. I got my first tape at 6 (LL’s I’m Bad). Ra’s been a beast from the door for me.
Just copped my pre-order of Nigger off of iTunes. **Throws John Carlos like Black Power fist in the air**
flash bio is a good read.
Another thing that made Ra so dope was the fact he didn’t use profanity. Dude was just straight up dope. Nas has had his moments where we were like “what is dude doing”, but he’s the closest thing to Rakim we will ever see. As a matter of fact his subject matter is just as detailed and precise. It’s impossible to name Jay, Wayne or any other MC (mainstream) in the same breath as those two as far as i’m concerned. I do agree with the comment made about Black Thought being on that level when you look at his skill set and the fact he’s always below the radar.