Found floating in my inbox yesterday, this particular email from a Crew member…
A quick question for all of you TSS-ers: I and another TSS-er, who shall not be named (omitted), were discussing/arguing the other day about an album, and whether it was deserving of classic status. So I wanted to canvas you guys to see what you thought.
50 Cent – Get Rich Or Die Tryin’ – Classic or not?
It should also be noted that the argument wasn’t even necessarily whether it was classic or not, as one of us – who shall not be named – thought it wasn’t even good. But, for sake of balancing the scales of the argument, let us know what you think.
I’ll spare you the countless “reply all” emails that went back & forth between the Crew, where fact-based opinions were slung, criticisms exclaimed…all the way to eventual threats of “I’m bout to hop on the plane & kick yo’ ass.”
So we bring it to you, dear reader and fellow esteemed members & minds of the Hip-Hop community.
Where do you all weigh on this one? What rating do you give it? Given the time it released, the effects it had then & since, where does it stand in the halls of Hip-Hop history?
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No. No it is not a classic.
I’d give it a TWO out of five.
i wouldn’t say its classic, but i will admit bumpin it damn near everyday when it came out….but no…not a classic imo.
1 at best EF
If you don’t give it at least a 3.5, I’ll just ignore you as being a 50 hater.
sorry, hate it or love it, the fuckin album changed a lot of shit in this industry.
I remember being in ATL for the ASG when it dropped. In a sea of black folks, every fuckin car & truck in the vicinity was bumpin that shit. Sincerely.
Well to each’s own but Big Reem here thinks its a classic..hands down. Nuff said.
Came out and smashed all competition. Sold crazy records and i can still hear the coin dropping at the intro of the album.
G-UNIT ALL DAY ROUND THESE PARTS!!
As always…RMF!!!
Reem aka Saul Goode!
http://www.triggerhappyny.com
fuck that. im not a fan of the dudes music, aside from that hes entertaining as all hell and hes a smart guy.
but everybody knows, when this came out, you were bumpin it. hard.
you were knockin this, best of lloyd banks part 1 &2.. before banks`s raspy deep voice suddenly became high and annoying..
everybody know that this was that shit when it came out, regardless how you feel about fif now.
so, in all non-fronting ness
4 cigs
peace.
it’s definitely a near-classic…it was the soundtrack for that whole summer when it came out…and, for me, that fall and winter too…the shit just sounded so good in the system, fif was still hungry, the whole Ja Rule beef was in full effect and the production on that whole album is immaculate…i say a near-classic not cuz i’m hatin but because when i throw it in the system now, it doesn’t really have anywhere near the playback potential of, say, an Illmatic, a Ready to Die or a Doggystyle…classics are few and far between, and most artists, regardless of skill, will never be a part of one…that’s what makes them classics
Its gotta be a classic… not only did it do crazy numbers people bumped it consistently for a year like it just came out, shit had bangers, it was back when he at least tried to rap good and had Dre on the boards so yea I think its a classic… too bad I cant stand his music these days
i wouldn’t go so far to call it a classic…
it’s a damn good album though…4/5 at least…but it’s just not classic material to me….
i’m with sherm on this one…it lacks the playback of some real classic albums.
I’ll call it a classic, maybe. It might just be a supplemental classic, kind of marks the height of Dre & Em’s influence, and I don’t know if he would’ve blown that hard without them. But yeah, I still bump this album every once in a while.
doing crazy numbers does not make an album a classic. if that was the case common has no rights having Be as a classic then right?
as far as i’m concerned fifty was still hungry then & as much as i don’t check for him now, i was hitting this one hard when it came out. the key to any classic is can it still be bumped now & have the same impact. the answer for GRODT, i’m afraid is no.
classic.
I was at the ASG too and no matter where you where thats all you heard! The album IMO is a classic. It changed alot of things in the industry and had dudes switching there style up.
classic. by standards of what hiphop used/uses for determining a “classic”.
it captured a space in time.
it gave you a persona filled with swag.
it gave you top notch beats.
it gave you memorable songs–hooks, rhymes…
and let’s be honest, a big part of what makes Get Rich seem not as hot now, is the fact that it got played over and over nonstop for like 2 years straight all over the western hemisphere.
CLASSIC (easily). 50 came in as a movement unto himself -perfected the mixtape hustle- and had the industry and listeners pretty much anticipating his every move- and then delivered.
It was almost like an And 1 star made the league and went MVP.
-had street cred
-sold however many MILLIONS of records
-killed a career
what more you want?
3.5
Whether you want to call me a hater or not, fine, but here’s real spit.
5 years ago, yeah, you can say everybody and their mother was listening to this album. I’ve ALWAYS agreed with 50 on one point, the man knows how to make great songs.
Those songs on that album (What Up Gangsta, P.I.M.P., In Da Club, If I Can’t, Don’t Push Me, Many Men) were, in their own right, great songs.
Great songs. Not so good MUSIC.
Let me ask you guys (and gals, I see you) a question. Throw in a copy of Aquemini. How about Ready To Die? How about The Chronic? How about Paid In Full? How about Reasonable Doubt? How about Illmatic? How about Doggystyle? How about The Low End Theory? How about Things Fall Apart? How about Enter The Wu-Tang?
Any of those albums (and some more) have stood the test of time. 5, 10, 15, hell, 20 years have passed, and still, those albums stand up against anything that is out today. I’m not knocking any artists, I’m just saying those albums are music.
I can’t listen to GRoDT now. Lyrically, it doesn’t stand up to time, production wise, the Dre beats will always bang. But that’s not the only key to having a classic. Could you listen to his whole album again, without wincing at some of the stuff that’s there?
Could you sit through GRoDT once every 6 months and not get that “tired” feeling, or that “listen, skip, skip, listen, skip, ok, take it out the deck” feeling?
If you can do that, then you can call it a classic. I can’t do that.
It’s not a classic to me. 3.5. And he only gets that .5 cause I don’t want Gotty to dismiss me as a hater.
Brock out.
*walks in.*
Joy is finding a virgin brand new pair of super-official sneaks that you somehow managed to forget for a year or two because at the time you were fascinated by something else.
At least I know what I’ll wear when I land in ATL tomorrow for that Glow in the Dark Tour.
*walks out, completely ignoring the pointless 50 cent banter*
the key to any classic is can it still be bumped now & have the same impact. the answer for GRODT, i’m afraid is no.
i agree.
@ Canseco
excellent points, my dude.
As classics go I was loving this from day one song for song and it inspired alot of heads to switch up. Let me say YEAH a classic
2nd Canseco
c’mon now,
I hear y’all on the playback factor, but if you put The Chronic in right now I guarantee you that you’d skip a track here in there, and NO ONE would dispute its’ “classic-ness”.
(Nas haters cover your ears)
You can’t compare many classics to Illmatic because it only had 10 tracks which makes it a much easier album to listen to again and again. Most classic albums IMO, don’t do well against Illmatic in the playback/non-skip category.
Even on the playback factor, if I can listen to at least 75% of the album then to me itsa classic. I’ve heard people call “The Documentary” a classic, and I cant listen to that album at all.
It’s a Classic. Please STOP THE HATE…
This album had the US less I say the world on lock during that period. And playback quality is there, because it takes you back to that time. FIFs lyrics were on point for FIF, each song was a smash and it inspired a lot of other artist. There is alot of backlash for the dude so people wanna hate. STOP HATING. It’s a classic…
To tell you the truth, I thought “The Massacre” was better than “Get Rich Or Die Trying” because it was more grimey and street (minus a few silly tracks). I got off this whole “classic” album bullshit because it’s too debatable; no one will ever agree with another person’s criteria of what makes an album “classic” so it’s pointless. A lot albums older heads tell me are classic are straight boring to me, which creates more arguments. I look at albums in terms of my favourites, not classics.
ps: 50 Cent even admitted himself that he has yet to make a classic album, so this discussion is over. What up Contra my dude!
4 out of 5.
Not classic, but signifigant.
It’s pretty sad if you can’t even rhyme as well as Vanilla Ice.
Classic my ass
*last comment (yeah, right)
THISSH*TWASTHEHIP-HOPVERSIONOFTHRILLER!!!
(stop the madness)
Significant is a GREAT word for it.
I give it 4/5…its a classic in a sense, but I can’t give it that title…it does NOT belong up there with Ready to Die, Enter the 36, Aquemini, Paid In Full, etc…
@ 500K Flea
Word. I can dig it. I agree with you.
I’m not knocking nobody, I mean, if it’s a classic to you, it’s a classic.
It just isn’t a classic to me. Hell, what do I know?
Outside of two tracks on it, I rate In My Lifetime Vol. 1 a classic. Don’t listen to me. LOL
yo Flea!
don’t come in here w/ all that psychological, rational, logical sh*t…
j/k lmao… what up my bruva
Never even thought this was questionable to be perfectly honest. Classic, no doubt.
Classic no…successful bamboozling of music business and student of DMX’n the game…yes
even if i aint really fucking with fif right now…i can probably sing that album word for word. Also you have to remember the streets were still with him then…in fact he was like a hero with the way he came from the mixtape circut i’d have to lean closer to classic than not.
@E.Brock 3 tracks on in my lifetime
1. city is mine(i know…but if you need i’ll give my reasons)
2. girls like( or whatever that bullshit is called)
3. sunshine(no need to explain)
3 bricks like that it can’t be an classic album
This album made 50 what he is now and he hasn’t had an album that touched this one…If you can argue that 50 Cent is a king of New York, its because of this album, CLASSIC.
4/5.
I don’t consider it a classic to hip-hop, but its a classic to me just because of the effect it had on me at the time. I don’t see how anyone can’t acknowledge / respect the impact it had…
@ E. Brock: I felt the same way about “In My Lifetime Vol.1″; Jigga was still lyrical but chose to go in different direction with some of the beats that’s all.
@ OED: LOL!!! Don’t mind me man, I just like getting my hiphop Aristole/Confucius on sometimes. What up!!!
@ Robb2Eleven
Oh come on, The City Is Mine was great! Well, good at least.
That’s why I said don’t listen to me, what do I know?
Kcuf the haters, Vol 1= Classic. LOL
@500kFlea
- ps: 50 Cent even admitted himself that he has yet to make a classic album, so this discussion is over.
50 was on Rap City not too long ago arguing with Khaled (after Khaled left GRODT out the classic bag) talking about Khaled will never make a classic album like GRODT….
that album gets mixed emotions…It marks a crucucial time in my life and brings back memories but I can name several albums that were higher quality.
I remember being at a lil set when the album first came on and when high all the time came on niggas went CRAZY.
@ Mr. Rogers: Hmm…haven’t watched RapCity since Tigga left so I wouldn’t have known that. Thanks for clearing that up though. I still think that 50 knows in his heart and mind that he needs to make “that” album which just appeals to everbody, the one that just kills the critics and keeps the fans happy. I’m still waiting (not holding my breath though) for him to release “Power of the Dollar” commercially; it would be interesting to see people’s reaction to it.
Definitely not a classic…but my definition differs a little bit from everyone else’s above me. The album was definitely huge, sold like hotcakes, was played by everybody everywhere…. that doesn’t make it a classic to me. All I’m really looking at is the quality of the songs on the album, and I REALLY don’t think the songs on GRODT are that great. Aside from maybe 4 really good songs, the rest were garbage to me.
In fact, I haven’t listened to a single song on GRODT (In Da Club and P.I.M.P. exempt) in at least a couple years.
Oh and for the record, Vol. 1 isn’t a classic either. He was lyrical and it had some bangers, but are there really dudes who bump it from start to finish?
Albums like this or WSC’s Bow Down, Common’s Be, Mobb’s Hell On Earth, Gang Starr’s Moment Of Truth and several others are the reason there’s a 4.5 rating. They may be classics in one form of the word but they may be missing an element or two – whether it be length or slight filler prevented them from getting that “undisputed” classic title. But when you make an album this good with that much an impact, it really doesn’t even matter. Hands down the best album of 2003 and if TSS was in effect then, this would’ve got 4.5…Fucc what some of ya’ll taumbout…
Classico as the itie’s would say
TC giving 50 Cent credit???!!! The sky is falling!!! LOL!!! Just fuckin’ wit’cha mayne, what up!
4.5
GRODT marks a period in time where 50 sat on top of the game. As far as replay value, there are no easy skips on this one. Production wise, I’ve yet to hear an album as packed with as many bangers.This is Dre’s best collection of beats on an album since The Chronic 2001. The only drawbacks are Fiddy’s lyrics. As full of menace as they are, there’s simply nothing remarkable on here. Still, lines like…
“Keep thinkin I’m candy, till Youe fuckin’ skull get popped/And Your brain jump out the top like Jack In The Box”
and…
“Niggas sayin they gonna murk 50, How?/We ridin round with guns the size of Lil’ Bow Wow”
…entertaining if nothing else. You can’t compare this album to Illmatic when it owes more to Niggaz4Life. GRODT took “gangsta rap” & streamlined it for mass consumption. Not a classic, but damn close. Most likely, this is as close as Curtis is gonna get.
Me & TC agree on something? Get the fuck outta here lol!
Classic = NO
Extremely Popular = YES
a classic; if not for 50 than Dre.
^ Dre only did 4 tracks tho
@TC
The best album of 2003?
I’m sorry, but The Black Album says otherwise.
Oh, by the way, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below would also like to have a quick word or two with you as well…
The Black Album has more clunkers than GRODT…
“Justify My Thug” anyone?
@ E. Brock
Black Album is solid but lets knitpick on the beat choices for “What More Could I Say” or “Justify My Thug” or the weak “My First Song.” Lyrically Jigga coasted through that joint too. Still more even than Vol. 1. though. LOL @ Spwakerboxxx hiding all its flaws behind The Love Below
@ Amp
We agree all the time. Shut it.
@ Flea
U made history for me today. Never heard someone say Massacre was better than Get Rich… True “smh” moment right thurrr playa…
@ Amp
What?
Even if you count “Justify My Thug” (which I can’t even see how) that’s one compared to how many off of GRoDT?
And go ahead and throw out The Black Album if you want…. but GRoDT wasn’t better than SB/LB.
Try and say it was. Again, album of 2003 wasn’t GRoDT.
Name a clunker on Get Rich… I’ll except arguments for “Blood Hang Gang” and “Like My Style” but the rest will be dealt with resistance hahaha
@ TC: Sorry homebro, I don’t think GRODT was anywhere NEAR “The Massacre” in terms of beats or lyrics but as I said that’s MY opinion. Massacre was just ill man; “Ryder Musik”, “Gunz Come Out”, “Ski Mask Way”, and my personal favourite “I Don’t Need ‘Em”. GRODT was aiigghhtt, but the moment I heard Massacre I was like “Ohhh Shit!” I don’t give a fuck how much GRODT sold, like everyone hear has said it’s about how you felt at that particular time when you heard it.
ps: R.I.P. Disco D, he made a beat for The Massacre.
@ TC
I’d say it’s more like 50/50…Easy, Homie…just effin witcha =)
@ Flea
Even though GRODT is a little more focused than Massacre, I’m one of the few heads that thinks that joint is just as dope. Get rid of Gatman & Robbin/My Toy Soldier & it’s easily one of the best joints of 05…
Speakerboxx had alotta wack ish on there & The Love Below is beyond genre definition…can’t call that Hip-Hop
@ Brock
December 4th, What More Can I Say, Justify My Thug, Allure, My 1st Song…Zzzzz
Weak productions paired with uninspired lyrics…
And I still like that album somewhat…but Jay was on cruise control at that point.
@TC
If we’re nitpicking on weak beat selection, then let’s nitpick on lyrical content. If you’re gonna be gangster, do it better than 50 did. Outside of What Up Gangster, I felt like I was set up for a great disappointment, and I was.
50Cent needs to develop a drug habit, overdose, and then stumble onto a freeway on a rainy night in a drunken stupor.
4/5
@ Amp
December 4th was a sleeper? Dude, come on… LOL
Quick question, my people. Why are we arguing over difference of opinion? I’m just saying, we all felt different in 2003.
I wouldn’t say “Beg For Mercy” was better than “The Black Album”, but I copped both the same day & over time, G-Unit got more spins. As far as replay value, BFM has more joints that still get burn than TBA…but Hey, I actually liked Thoughts Of A Predicate Felon too & to many, that’s damn near sacrilegious lol.
@ Amp: LOL!!! Real talk famlay, that “SpeakerBoxx/Love Below” album (if one can call it that was too left field. Ma’fuckaz loved OutKast so much that they couldn’t even admit it was terrible!!! I bought the “Black Album” last year and listened to it thoroughly and I have to agree there too, I mean it had some bangers but Jay sounded like he was up Beyonce’s pussy too much and not up in the booth that much. Sorry, my $0.02
@ Brock
December 4th was better the 1st time I heard it…
When it was called “Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)”
fifs rhymes on massacre are better and there are some ferocious ass beats on that CD. look at fifs word play on GRODT then look at his flow on massacre much more refined focused flows and even concepts.
the thing that keeps massacre from getting the acceptance among hip hop fans that his debut got is that its weighed down with too many “singles-club freindly” tracks.
I hated massacre when it dropped and last year I rediscovered it and found a new apprreatiation for it
@ Petey: Tell ‘em again!!! LOL!!!
The Love Below was dope.
Hip-hop? enh.
Dope? Yassum.
I guess we all have a difference of opinion.
All I can say is, I stand by my word that GRoDT isn’t a classic. 50 doesn’t have one. Not yet.
I believe he could get one, if he could stay away from this beef thing.
By the way….
500K, you my boy…. but don’t diss the ‘Kast…. LOL
The problem with all this is that there is no standard or rule to go by. If there was a definition and aguideline to label an album as a “classic”, then we probably wouldn’t have 67 – 70 comments.
Like someone said earlier, “why are we arguing over opinions?”
But I guess the good thing is that there is no standard to go off of. If there were then there would be no Blogs!!!!!!
I guess we all have a difference of opinion
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Agreed.
@ E. Brock: Fuck ‘Kast!!! LOL!!! Naw man I got love(no homo) for OutKast but only when they kick ill rhymes and stay away from the sing-a-long raps. That latest joint with Raekwon, is a banger so hopefully they come with more heat like that this time around.
how did Kast & Jay get drug into this is?
I think sometimes Jay falters w/beats…but not so much w/lyrics. “City Is Mine”? Listen to it. It was just a horrible fuckin sample choice…or maybe the execution of it.
True indeed on that Disco D shoutout.
Since this turned out so well, feel free to email me your suggested albums for the next round of (C)Rank It!
I guess we all have a difference of opinion
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not true.
Vanilla Ice is NOT a classic.
Khia is NOT classy. lol
@ Gotty
Will do, Captain.
@ OED
Hold up. I have a difference right there.
Actually, no. Nope. I don’t have difference of opinion on those two.
You’re right.
I ain’t trying to hear nothing bout no differences of opinions neither. We can talk about these subjective topics with factual bases underneath them and I refuse to hear some hate on the album of Get Rich… Respect the imperfect imperfections!!!
Oh we ain’t gotta wait for an email Sir G… the next one will be…
Ha Ha! Stay Tuned TSS…
This album goes hard and still does, but the other 2 after it, not so much.
4 out of 5.
I’m what many consider a Hip Hop purist. I was a Jedi level backpacker between the years of 1997-2002 and I can tell you without hesitation that “Get Rich Or Die Trying” was a classic album. The rest of ‘em? Not so much.
One.
I was a Jedi level backpacker between the years of 1997-2002
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LMAO
i hate current day 50, but @ the time when this album dropped he was on his shit. this album is definitely a banger, wouldnt say its a classic tho. id give it 4 outta 5.
Low End Theory – Classic
Like Water for Chocolate – Classic
NWA – niggaz 4 life – Classic
B.I.G – Ready To Die – Classic
Dr Dre – The Chronic – Classic
Outkast – Stankonia – Classic
Nas – Illmatic – Classic
Slum Villiage – fantastic volume II – Classic
50 Cent – Get Rich or Die Trying – Nope!
dope albums transcend 1 summer of heavy rotation.
It’s a solid album but not classic IMO
TC for President!!! LOL!!!
artois?
fantastic vol 2 over Get Rich?
I was just listenin’ to that yesterday.
no disrespect AT ALL to Dilla Dawgs production which WAS classic, but nope
50 did his thing with GRODT, but it doesn’t touch classic status IMO. If you listened to Fif on the mixtape scene, a bunch of that album was old news (especially towards the end). And DAMN artois had to throw Dilla in the mix! I’m witcha though, I can listen to fantastic volume II just on the strength of production alone.
CLASSIC!
Classic album. Non-debatable. Damn near every song on the album was getting radio play.
^enigmatik: by that standard alot of diarrhea albums would be classics. Re: Lil Jon, Bow Wow, etc…
If it’s merely a matter of locking it down for a period of time, changin the game and having ridiculous sales, I’m pushing for MC Hammer as well as the aforementioned to be a classic.
Gotty, a topic worth debate is in ur inbox.
Classic! Listen to it – I agree with TC that Bloodhound Gang and Like My Style suffer a little bit, but other than Illmatic I don’t think there’s an album with every song being basically perfect…
I listened to this album for a year straight basically, and it still finds itself in decent rotation. And I also agree with TC that it was the album of 2003 for sure – better than Black Album, and better than Love Below/Speaker… Sorry. It hurts to rank 50 above Jay and ‘Kast, even for just one album, but it’s necessary.
A lot of ‘The Massacre’ and damn near all of ‘Curtis’ were hot garbage, though.
Mundy… you contributing to this discussion is the worst self-nepotism imaginable.
I’m going to buy you a drink before you move and immediately throw it in your face.
Can I Kick It? (c) A Classic Album(s) Maker
If by classic you mean an artist or artistic production considered a standard.
So with that being said, Miles Davis: classic.
The various albums that remain on 90% of the lists above. Classic.
50′s rise to an upper tax bracket was pretty much the event of 2003.
I’m pretty sure if you didn’t cop, you knew 10 people who did, the day it dropped, so you didn’t have to.
And I mean it went #1 up here too.
Gotta keep the registers ringing (c) Another Classic Album(s) Maker.
BUT…
I agree with amp’s “streamlining” point.
Get Rich Or Die Tryin’ was the album of 2003…
…in terms of sales.
Sorry, artistically, musically, and for lack of a better term, timelessnessly speaking, Speakerboxx/Love Below, by a reggie miller buzzer beater.
Then again, two minds, who’ve already made a classic album, then do so again, are usually are better than one.
I acknowledge 50 in the hip-hop universe. And I don’t hate.
50 sold a lot of records, and put out a fantastic album, and made a huge impact for the record industry, and put Mr. Mathers and Mr. Young in positions to now loaft on albums till December 32nd.
4.5.
Can’t Tell Me Nothing (c) Yup, him too.
3.5, I am a big rap fan. I was a fan of Eminem at the time, and didn’t have any reason to hate 50 cent, but he never appealed to me. His lyrics don’t have any personal or touching feeling to them generally in this album or anyone he had released after it. I think it was made to please the mainstream. That’s not the kinda album I look for. I believe it had a great affect on others…., but I took at the least a point off to show that people like me did not enjoy 50 cent’s album for more than a couple days, tops!.
Rap cd where the dude has no shirt on on the cover?
It’s one for the ladies.
id give it a 4/5 or to be more accurate a 8.2/10.
a debatable classic in my eyes is: common – be.
I don’t give a fuck/I don’t play that shit/And i’m finna bust a cap on a aggin!
Classic
classic
off the strength of ill kill you alone….
the video for that shit was some of the funniest shit
ABSOLUTE UNDENIABLE CLASSIC.
‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’ FINISHED the rap game.
it was the end of it.
after that it was all downloading and low record sales and complaining.
Raps swan song. Fuckin beautiful.
This is easy, this album is a classic…..Hands down, it stays in the changer/ipod/cpu……
5/5
classic albums=mostly every track is dope and the wack ones are tolerable
this doesnt fit the criteria but i still love this shit 3.5/5
Classic
I wont front, I honestly consider it a Classic. This was one of the most Solid releases from a New Artist in recent years. But, I will say Obie Trice’s Cheers was better, and I also consider that a classic. Iunno, I might be using it loosely. I seriously bumped Get Rich or Die Tryin until the CD broke. However, I was like.. 15 when the CD came out.
Classic.
CLASSIC! no question.
Everyone was bumping it when it dropped and it you put in on now you’d still love it. Stop the hate, it ain’t about the artist focus on the music, that album was crazy!
Classic. This album has all the elements of real hip-hop music. It has AMAZING production from start to finish, and this was the one album that EVERYBODY liked. I say that if you can create an album that that many people liked, it gives everyone in the community something in common, and that alone makes it a classic, because NOBODY makes music like that anymore.
Nah this shit is def a classic. The anticipation was undeniable. The beats were all on point, the rhymes were so hard but yet so appealing to everyone. There is no doubt that this is a classic.
It had its fifteen minutes. It was overplayed, everyone was on the payroll.
Massive marketing over lyricism.
Hooks over verses.
Terrible.