The Good With The Bad…
AUDIO By TSSCrew on March 30, 2008 at 8:33 pmWords By Darius Sinclair â„¢
We all have songs we just love but others despise. I’ve been prone to that attitude considering I like some rock’n'roll and classical. But what about the Hip-Hop songs? The ones you think are the shit, but only after they took years to grown on you (like Michelle from Destiny’s Child). But when you have a packed car you want to turn that up, and everyone else wants you to turn that off. I compiled a few tracks that get a four or five star rating on my playlist, but others may delete and consider an abomination to Rap music all together.
The Notorious B.I.G. – Player Hater
Sadly, the greatest album of all time has to have the stupidest song the artist has ever made. When I first heard “Player Hater,” I skipped it before the first verse began. “What is this awful crap?” I thought. The song was so bad it made me feel uncomfortable to listen to it, Ã la number 8 on Ready To Die.
However, 10-plus years since its release, I now see that Biggie was ahead of his time: rappers singing on tracks. The production on this song is amazing, of course, thanks to Stevie J. The vocals provided by both Big and Puff were both… entertaining. And if you really listen to what Big is spitting/singing, he’s actually keeping it gangsta, unlike most rappers that try singing. This song is now a classic and gets played all the way through whenever shuffled upon.
B.G. Feat. Big Tymers – Hennessey & XTC
Everybody liked a little bit of B.G. Whether it was his bling appraising tracks or his lessons of gangsterism, B.G. had a song for everyone. Checkmate was one of his better albums, but this ode to liquor and pills used to irritate me to the point of taking the CD out. Mannie Fresh’s annoying adlibs, the retarded hook, and the funny but boring verses were the reasons I hated this song. I mean, come on, he’s burping on the track.
Years go by though, and I’ve had my share of crazy club scenes. I grew a liking to the realism of the song. I’m not saying I can completely relate now, but I’m more “open-minded.” The beat is infectious, too. Mannie Fresh uses xylophone sounds on it to keep your mind buzzing. And the lyrics seem even more entertaining as you know “_(insert drug)_ is a hell of a drug.” Like when the track says, “Hey man, what are you on/ you’re acting kinda strange/you’re a real party animal like that cat Rick James.” This song speaks many truths.
Ghetto Report Card shocked the world with its success. Regardless, the CD was a mess. Perhaps the world wasn’t really ready for the hyphy movement. But with that said, the album did have some hits, mainly those two or three radio hits, and “White Girl.” One song that got skipped continuously was “Do Ya Head Like This”. This was something terrible. The beat sounded like industrial music, not Hip-Hop. It gave you a headache if you listened to it all the way. It had dudes screaming on the track for like 30 seconds, and not to mention E-40’s words ran together, like he was either drunk or rapping too fast.
After hearing this song at an “herbal medicine exchange meeting”, I realized when you’re supposed to listen to this track. Also, seeing Keyshia Cole shake her hair, tail-feather, and bosom to this song on her show, I had to give it another go. A few dozen spins on the ticker and the song actually has become a favorite. I let it be that 40-Water just won’t let the beat defeat him, so he raps over it. The song is basically crunk and must be played at loud volumes while partying or speeding on the highway. That makes it alright with me.
Cam’Ron Feat. Dipset – Stop Callin’
“Doggie, Doggie. You don’t know me, Doggie.” I hated this effing song. It was useless, classless, and talent-less. And unrealistic. Perhaps it was because I was in high school when it dropped, and I didn’t understand the “adult situations.” Whatever it was, I never listened to this track back then.
A few of us fellas have received terroristic threats in calls from dudes in conjunction from messing with their lady. Getting a few of these calls and not having to make one myself left this song to be amusing. The beat knocks and kicks very well. But the highlight ultimately is the bruising words. I find it funny now when Cam’ and company instigate sexual advances they received. “I ain’t cherish ya cutie/ inherit the booty/ Have her wantin to kill you like American Beauty/ Killa.” Piercing, but funny. Can’t ignore the dude’s pleading words either, “Yo, I got Timbs, dog.” More or less, when I need a good laugh or want to reminisce on some college events, this song works perfectly.
What are some of your favorite tracks that used to be your most hated?
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Main_Source-Breaking_Atoms-Reissue-2006
Dipset-More_Than_Music_Vol._1-2005
VA-Okayplayer_Presents-True_Notes_Vol._1-2004
Nickelback - All The Right Reasons (Special Edition)
Lil_Cease-The_Wonderful_World_Of_Cease_A_Leo
Rahzel-Make_The_Music
DJ Envy-Down N Dirty RNB 16
Trap-O-Holics Present:Hell Up In Harlem-(Jim Jones vs. Max B.)
DJ Dolla Sign-T.I.vs. Shawty Lo-(King Of Bankhead)
DJ Chuck T & Young Jeezy-The Lost Tapes
The Empire & Lil Wayne-The Drought Is Over 5-(Grand Closing)
Nas-Heaven_(VLS)-2003
Nas-New_York-Promo_CDr-2005
Naughty_by_Nature-Wicked_Bounce-(VLS)-1999
Nelly_Feat._Jahiem-My_Place-Promo_CDS-2004
Nelly-Errtime-CDS-2005
Monica_Ft_Dirtbag-Set_it_Off-(Remix-CDS)-2003
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Mannie_Fresh-The_Mind_Of_Mannie_Fresh
2Pac - Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.
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I actually co-sign on the Hen & X.
Cats slept on “Checkmate”.
And Stop Callin was a fave of mines from day 1. Cam is a funny ass Dude
Whatever happen to Dirtbag’s full length?
Same thing that happened to Dre’s “The Trunk”. Nothing.
Dude, I was just tellin these fools that “Henn & X” jumped off here. It was playing in the clubs, radio & cars.
But I got a weird little feeling it was a part of the rise of pill-poppin becoming popular in the hood as well.
@ Boogie Tonight
can you post that Plantlife you found? thanks in advance
Plantlife fans here?
Jack Splash is…one of the most interesting people (not just entertainers) I’ve ever met in my life, straight up lol. He gives off this aloof vibe like he’s larger than life…but when he starts talking & rattling off shit like a musical encyclopedia, you know he’s a real dude.
Plantlife was mentioned by someone else whose musical tastes I respect, so if someone else with similar good taste mentions it (which Boogie did), it warrants a listen. That’s my 2 co-sign rule.
The Return of Jack Splash
Plantlife
http://rapidshare.com/files/51634386/The_Return_Of_Jack_Splash_.rar
Can we get a re-up on that Cease-A-Leo?
@ Boogie…thanks!
found this while doing the ol’ Google Blog Search:
“Time Traveller” - Plantlife
http://rapidshare.com/files/101969799/plan.zip
password: mp3zzz.blogspot.com
don’t know if it’s the same group
@ Amp
that dude in your avy…is that you or your dad? lol
How about a re-up on the Breaking Atoms reissue?
Big never made any wack songs…except…
@ misfit
Yeah that’s the new ish that drops next month
Good looks
Cease joint is working. Main Source wasn’t. I’ll have to reup later.
Yo?… Max B got shot?
“That shit ain’t wavy!”- Max B
Live concert feed…Jay Electronica
http://www.mogulus.com/themegatrondon
& that Cease is still down…
As for My Avy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsWskgKe5E
what’s the pw on Pac???
i was just checkin out some Plantlife…shit is mad funky…here’s some zshare links for the uninitiated…peep em out:
Plantlife - Fool For You:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/9606083edfc121/
Plantlife - Time Traveler (dope):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/96060155212e0d/
Plantlife - Sun Shines Through Your Love:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/960602615d63f9/
Now if that CeeLo and Jack Splash project will ever get done and see the light of day… those 4 songs I have worn out already
Do I dare say Jack Splash is the second coming of Prince
Life after Death “Greatest album of all time”???? I’ll have to question that one big time.. but true indeed “Player Hater” was terrible
that live concert feed/broadcast of Jay Electronica at the Nokia in NYC was dope!
Props to Amp for linking
and props to Just Blaze for having his Mac Book Air there to capture it all
Jack has to be much cooler than Prince.
Amp - check Cease myself & it was working. I’m befuddled sir lol.
if phil busts nuts like that, i wonder why we never see tiger bustin on the back 9 every sunday
I’m listening to this Time Traveller…
and it’s dope!
I love shit like this…
@ Amp
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Good lookin TC
That Chickenheads joint w/ Carl Thomas was My ish
Great post and question.
I for one have been ridin’ with Playa Hater since Day 1. I have always loved that track, I just love cranking it up and singing the chorus louder when someone complains.. but sometimes I can just be an asshole like dat.
The Most hated song I like is the easiest question for me EVER.. Who Killed it by Nas AKA the John Cagney song.
While most folks are thrown off by the voice — admittedly horrible — I listen to the lyrics and the history lesson he goes thru and I feel that shit even more every single time.
“However, 10-plus years since its release, I now see that Biggie was ahead of his time: rappers singing on tracks.”
wow
smh
i swear niggas act like they never heard of Bone Thugs N Harmony
for real. the way niggas ride Biggie’s nuts like amazes me
B.I.G.>All 5 of Bone combined.
The Most hated song I like is the easiest question for me EVER.. Who Killed it by Nas AKA the John Cagney song.
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I can’t get pass that horrible Cagney voice. It remains “Most Hated’ in My book.
^^^
“rappers singing on tracks”
Slick Rick
Grand Puba
Wise Intelligent
and prolly more than I can think of off-hand…
nothin’ for nothin’, but Bone Thugs didn’t come up w/ that either….. keep it 100
Don’t forget TJ Swan
“Girrrrrrrl… why’d you hafta leave this wayyyy……”
whatever happened to TJ….
Nate an’ nem owe my man a check!
I like “Who Killed It.” It should have had a video, vintage black n’ white, old 1930’s private eye setting.
(me) this wayyy *ahem*
I’ll take that Cagney voice over Nas trying to sound like a female any day….
A video may have forced Me to listen to the song all the way thru, but as it stands, “Who Killed It” is an automatic skip.
Nas has had more than his share of ‘automatic skips’ over the years
Imma find that little writeup I got from TSS like 2 years ago on that song. Very detailed. Nas=conceptual genius. Even him getting into character for the song is a flash of brilliance.
Not on his jock or anything but he’s got it like that.
LOL @ OED.
The entire Nastradamas is a skip for me…
Nastradamus is to Nas as Gigli is to Al Pacino
LOL @ OED & TC
But I give it to the the Boy, Nasir. He pushes the line on creativity further than most. Alot of those joints on “Lost Tapes” are true gems.
true, true… as much as cats hate on Nas, THANK GOODNESS there’s still artists like him that go against the grain and color outside the lines every now and then.
Can’t wait for that Nas/Jay Electronica collabo…
any word on Jay Elec?
Pacino was on Gigli???
LOL.
I’ve never seen Simone either
Yessir. The entire vibe on Lost Tapes is extremely Nastalgic.
He did His 1st show at the Nokia Theater tonight. You could see He was kinda nervous & He went on this rant/tirade against 50, Funk Flex, Kay Slay & Radio in general. It was dope but His stage show needs some work. He also threw out that Act II is on some government forum somewhere, but with this Guy, who knows if He’s tellin the truth or not. Misinformation is becoming this guy’s trademark
Oh yeah…
I 2nd L.A.D. being the best rap album i’ve ever heard when U consider all the factors.
Whatta need?
Comedy? Wit? Storytelling? Notable Quotables? Hit singles? Killer collabos? Straight raw?
Its all there…and more. And done extremely well.
Best Double CD, without question, but still a little long with a couple of filler tracks…
But the more I think about it… Ur probably right TC.
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2 Beast feat. Poison Pen
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4 Kidz (N.Y.C)
5 Blurr (prod. Cryptic One)
6 Anything Can Happen?
7 Legend (prod. Madlib)
8 Blood Sport (f/Vordul Mega, prod. Camu Tao)
9 The Dark Ages feat. M.U.R.S.
10 Criminal Tales
11 Pandora’s Box feat Double AB, Access Immortal & Swave Sevah
12 Night Life
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I hate “Who Killed It” lol. Listened to Streets Disciple the other day and tried to give it another shot…wasn’t happening
Ready to Die the greatest album of all time? Now I’ve heard it all.
sixty….
One.
“recap” of the Mos Def / Jay Electronica show at the Nokia in NYC:
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=1630390&mesg_id=1630390&page=
TC Says:
B.I.G.>All 5 of Bone combined.
Mar 30, 2008, 2:59 am
^^^^^
close, but no.
not for nothing, but B.I.G. is more overrated than Wu Tang
@ phoenixxx
not for nothing, but B.I.G. is more overrated than Wu Tang
man biggie was the TRUTH… but WU is overrated
WTF!! Sean Levert died only a few days into a 22 month bid for child support non-payment
I’d have to say Wu AND Bone are overrated.
Sean Levert, son of O’Jays lead singer Eddie Levert, was found dead in a Cleveland, Ohio, jail over the weekend, sources said.
Sean Levert, 39, was being held for allegedly failing to pay about $80,000 in child support. The cause of death was not immediately known.
Sean Levert was a member of the R&B group LeVert with his late brother Gerald Levert and Marc Gordon. Gerald Levert died Nov. 10, 2006 at the age of 40.
Sean Levert had recently completed an album with Gordon, sources said.
Sean Levert appeared in the movies Dope Case Pending (2000) and New Jack City (1991).
Yo
Speechless.
He JUST went in.
Sean Levert dead? That’s crazy! WTF happened?
I feel bad for Eddie…two sons gone before Him.
Good looks on that 2Pac, but what is the password?
GREUMS THE ILLEST !
word Amp…
not one, but TWO sons passing before you…
that ain’t how it’s “sposed” to go…
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Wu overrated? BIG overrated???
WTF is this….. SST is on some ol’ Bizarro World sh*t???
Dunno the pw for the Pac so I’ll have to reup later.
LOL @ OED
Cats are trippin tryin to say Big was overrated.
You gotta forgive these Dudes cause they’ve clearly bumped their heads….
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