
When I read that Hov wasn’t making American Gangster available on iTunes, I didn’t think much of it. As a concept album, it just made sense that he wouldn’t want people to hear the songs out of context. Not once did I think of any other implications it might have.
Apparently, Jermaine Dupri did.
“More artists and producers are gonna take back control of how their art is sold because [Jay-Z's] strategy has paid off. Maybe Hova coulda sold another 100,000 to 200,000 units by playing it iTunes’ way, but he still had the number one album last week. He STILL sold 425,000 units. Even more, he’s proven you can still sell an album without those guys.
Jay made everyone realize that iTunes taking what we give them and doing what they want with it isn’t the way it has to be. He put the light on and made other people realize, “Oh these guys are just selling our music, they ain’t making it.” If anything, WE made iTunes. It’s like how we spent $300,000 to $500,000 each on our videos and MTV and BET went ahead and built an entire video television industry off of our backs. We can’t let that happen again. These businesses exist solely because of our music. So if we as artists, producers and label executives stand up, those guys at Apple can either cooperate, or have nothing for people to buy and download on their iPods.
Apple thinks that’s never gonna happen. They think that we as the record industry will never stick together. But Universal sells one out of every three records. All it’ll take is for Warner Music to say, “You know what, I’m with you,” for us to shut ‘em down. No more iPods! They won’t have nothin’ to play on their players! We can take back the power if we’re willing to sacrifice some sales to make our point.” (“Jermaine Dupri: A Good Album is More than Just a Collection of Singles” The Huffington Post)
This rant, the latest from JD’s Huffington Post blog, makes me feel highly inferior.
Not only does the Island Records Urban Music president talk about trying to abolish a burgeoning means of entertainment facilitation that millions of us enjoy and depend on, he basically speaks as if consumers are objects. Like we don’t deserve to have things our way. He refers to “those guys at Apple” like they’re heartless tyrants trying to gang up on his music industry. When really, all they’re doing is making consumers happy, which is their job. By now, you’d think an adept figure such as Dupri would know the main principle of business…the customer is always right.
When we want our music digitally, we’re not in the wrong, and neither is Apple for supplying us with a new and possibly more efficient means of delivering it.
For record companies, and execs like Janet’s husband, they might feel that they’re on the wrong end of what they believe to be a raw deal. Really though, it’s just life. As unpredictable as it always is, especially in big business, he should know that the times change faster than top of the charts.
The big boys, no pun intended, buck up and change with them.
When Dupri arrogantly and ignorantly says that he’s going to round up his cowboys and phase out millions of of people’s three-hundred-dollar iPods, just so millionaires like himself can continually up their stock portfolio, he sounds like a greedy Communist. One who seems to have forgotten that his whole So So Def empire exists solely because of the people who buy his music…because of us. It’s most definitely not the other way around. He needs to get off his damn high horse, and look the fuck around. If we want something, we’re going to get it, no matter what a few people of prestige have to say about it. Quite simply, the power is in the numbers.
Which is unfortunate for JD, because his aren’t very high as of late.

My sentiments exactly.
his statements are also referring to those who actually buy music off itunes, most people i know but CDs and then put that music on their ipod, or download music and transfer that.
*BUY cds
the real reason they’re mad at itunes is that they allow consumers to buy single tracks off albums and not the whole album. its a money issue like anything else. why wouldnt an artist want their music in the hands of as much people as possible?
Good post Beware, interesting read. I agree with you on some points, but you have to kind of understand where JD is coming from. It kind of sucks as an artist to work on an album only to have it dissected by fans in the form of $0.99 cent singles, but if that’s what people want then hey. At the same time JD sounded kind of greedy in that article, as is if he missed “the good old days” before the advent of the internet. Bottom line is technology has given the customer more freedom, so JD better learn to sink or swim. I think i-tunes isn’t the problem but rather the quality of some of the music.
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I agree with JD…He is not targeting the iPod users. There are more ways to upload music to your iPod than from iTunes.
iTunes doesn’t make business sens from a record company…instead of selling you a whole bag of apples for $10…iTunes makes it possible for you to buy one or two apples for $1 each.
I can see where this could be linked to lower album sales.
As far as BET and MTV…I also agree that they built an empire on the backs of musicians and sometimes overstep their boundaries by forcing artist to change video concepts or song titles in order ot get aired. The artists should be calling the shots not them.
“No more iPods! They won’t have nothin’ to play on their players! We can take back the power if we’re willing to sacrifice some sales to make our point.”
Who does he think he is talking about here? “They,” would be every person who listens to music in 2007. I know JD is smarter than that.
Very weird also considering the source, the Huffington Post being one of the biggest liberal blogs around. I guess they are hoping this piece will come off as anti big corporation (Apple,) but it shows a total ignorance and disrespect for the common person and how they choose to spend their money. It smacks of the ignorant elitism that pisses people off about that crowd.
Good shit Beware
Not so much Communist, but someone trying to save a half-sunken Titanic by rallying the troops (other music CEO’s).
http://paidandpopular.blogspot.com
Will everyone please read Bob Lefsetz response to JD’s blog. Makes a lot of sense.
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2007/11/20/jermaine-dupri-on-the-huffington-post/
also- if artists and record companies would put out albums that were full of more than 1 or 2 good songs- people wouldnt have 2 be on itunes coppin $.99 singles.
I see this a different way
iTunes doesn’t do shit, and yet they make money out of each song they sell. So why should he, or any artist for that matter, lose money to some middle man?
JD is mostly right, but is a bit greedy in the process
Well now. This indeed is a complez situation. With this coming from JD who’s a prominent albeit not a popular figure in the hip-hop community, surely anytime he tries to get intelligent, he’s gonna get a considerably amount of backlash. And plugging his book among a topic that would obviously benefit him doesn’t help the case either….
~BUT
For the most part, I’m going to have to side with him. See the rise of iTunes brought one giant statistic to the forefront: The amount of casual/common music listeners. There lack of interest on full albums is definitely a blow to the industry and big chunk of it’s stagnant condition (not weak albums, there’s been those since the beginning of rap: blow dust @ some of the Source magazines from the early 90′s, you’ll see). So to the person who simply bought “Throw Some D’s” for 99¢ and were left ignorant to cuts like “Let’s Get This Paper” & “And l Love You”, surely you would say they missed out, right? Of course, BUT. They don’t give a fuck. Especially if their musical experiences have been weened on a steady diet of club music and disposable mixtapes….
I, as an avid iPod user am the first to say FUCK iTunes. Are you’re really doing is renting the music. If your hard drives fail or you get new computers, you only have a certain amount of times where you can transfer the files before the become unusable. What’s WRONG with coppin’ the PHYSICAL CD and burning it on to your computer, choosing your desired bitrate all while having the same impact on an artist’s career while be privileged to some artwork/production credits? (Anyone who thinks that’s too much work, U’s a lazy sum’na’bytch. For real.)
We the people of TSS/internet are most definitely privileged with the resources of album leaks/previews cuz it helps the make wiser consumer choices in a bloated market (some of ya’ll ain’t consumers so don’t nod your heads, enter The Getback Contest why’dont’cha???!!!!) but with iTunes out the way, I just see a decline on singles sales to be truthful. What we’re really dealing
“We let the consumer have too much of what they want, too soon, and we hurt ourselves. ”
That dude is trippin.
Tis all good. Cause I have NEVER bought a So So Def album and aint about to start now. LOL
with (sorry pushed the Trëo to the limit) is there’s not as many FANS of music as there should be. Think about how many people scream they hate Jay-Z and never heard Vol. 2! Cuz “Nobody’s Listening” not Little Brother but Linkin Park….damn Big would’ve been proud of me – “Squeeze 1st”
Personally I dont advocate buying ANY music unless its quality. I have downloaded maybe 10 albums that could be considered quality bodies of work that came out this year. And I have bought maybe 4 or 5 (Little Brother and Kweli are the only ones that come to mind. Compare that to the 30 or 40 albums per year I was coppin before the advent of this internet underground. Most of those albums I cant even find now. And you know what? I DONT MISS THEM. Cause they fuckin sucked. I for one ain’t goin back! I’ll stop listening before I’ll start buying again.
TC my man, you’ve summed it up perfectly. I couldn’t agree with you more.
great post, you know jd is gonna feel like a jackass once he reads this, as he should. is this guy even relevant anymore? the last record i remember him even putting out was that dem franchize boyz garbage, who i’ve yet to hear again since “lean wit it rock wit it.” if you consider that and his bankruptcy, it sounds like this guy just doesn’t know how to run a label. if we’re talking numbers here, his only real successes have been da brat, kris kross, and bow wow, who are all trash. only three things jd deserves credit for: “jump,” banging janet jackson, and “money aint a thing.”
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You sound like an idiot. JD doesn’t make the bulk of his money these days off Hip-Hop. He makes it in the R&B market doing songwriting and production. He’s still a dope Hip-Hop producer too. See “Fallin’” from American Gangster.
*inhale*
@ Beware… good post, but I’m gonna have to side with JD as well.
@ TC… I’m gonna agree with some of the things you threw down, and I’m gonna add on that if the industry took the power back, it MAY force artists to put together albums that ARE of quality, and not just “single worthy”. I can’t stand that many new artists (Soulja Boy, D4L)… sorry I tried not to name names… can release some hot gobbagge with 1-2 club joints and trick folks into buying their trash. It seems like its either that, or spend $2 on the two songs you like and leave it at that.
Shit, if you want singles… start buying mixtapes beeeyotch! If you want a quality album, start forcing artists to put out quality by not buying bullshit, and supporting good shit.
*exhale*
well if you wanna get technical, he didn’t produce that by himself. it was co-produced by no id. judging from JD’s production discography on wikipedia, dude hasn’t had a hit since “grillz” in 2005, which was a terrible song. man lemme tell you about those paul wall and chingy joints he did. weren’t they great? the idiot remark was uncalled for.
Hip-hop still lives…. its just taking a nap while consumers are figuring out what good music actually is.
and just to put things in perspective, ITunes grossed over $630 million dollars in profits last year alone. you’re crazy if you think a company as big as microsoft or apple is going to bend to your will like that. aint gonna happen, they’ll take an L and quit selling JD and Jay-Z’s music before they quit selling individual songs. i’d guess that sales from hip-hop are probably a drop in the bucket when it comes to their overall sales anyways.
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“if the industry took the power back, it MAY force artists to put together albums that ARE of quality, and not just “single worthy”"
The industry is the real problem to begin with. And D4L and The Franchise boys arent selling records. You can’t use “snap music” as a scapegoat cause snap music aint selling. Name 2 snap rap albums that sold.
I don’t advocate itunes either but its really just an intermediate step in the evolution of the business model. There are people pushing the envelope (LB, Radiohead) and there are people trying to hold on to the past(JD, Jay-Z, Universal etc,). When its all said and done the future probably wont look like any of the stuff we’re using to get our music right now. (except Limewire maybe)
How do you get people to pay for shit they can get for free? Step up your marketing game. or … PUT IT IN A BOTTLE!
and PS.
the average consumer will NEVER “figure out what good music is.”.
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the average consumer will NEVER “figure out what good music is.”.
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That’s because of Radio One and the rest of these radio giants spoon feeding garbage ass music from their fat payola deals
And now all we as consumers have to do is band together to control the content in the music and the power is back where it should be…with us.
JD makes a good point when he says ” An album is more than just a collection of singles” and thats what iTunes is, a collection of singles. It helps the classic albums sell but not the shit from today. If it continues the record business will only exist on singles and ringtones…. If its cool to sell your album song by song don’t make albums anymore, just drop 1 dope song every now and then for people to focus on.
iTunes has abolished the significance of an PASSIONATE,CREATIVE person (artist) devoting themselves to an art form to give you a collection of their honest expression. In business the consumer is right! But its different with this business…. Why on earth would want to tell Ghostface or Emily King what I want to hear?
Yes you have to constantly pay attention to the changes, but why not direct the changes. Its like as soon downloading came the business gave up on going hard for a classic album because they thought it would be a waste of time. But now you want to save it but still don’t want to put in the time for ART!
@ Frank
If you want to get real technical about it, Dupri did Fallen and No I.D. did Success. They both gave each other co-producer credits outta respect more than anything (http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=15717).
As for Itunes, I’ve bought maybe one song off of there in my life. If CD’s are done away with and no other physical form replaces it, I will probably never buy music again. Because once they go fully digital, they will never be able to stop what is already going on. I’d even be willing to buy albums onine, if they did something like mail the album art/booklet to me. It could be sent 1st class mail and would be real cost effective.
The business gave up on classic albums long before itunes came around. thats why there was such a large market for itunes. Cause the Biz was using bullshit singles to sell bullshit albums.
givethe people what they want………….jd beeeen out of touch. No I don’t want 99% 0f the trash you put on your album, matter fact how bout i don’t buy it at all, just download it take the song i like then delete it and get my space back on the hard drive….This guy is drowning in trying to stay relevent soooo bad. He must only listen to his records and read his books. You can’t stop technology. Rebelling against the ipod is like rebelling against the cellular phone.
the damn will break.
I didn’t think this many “follower” type people came here, thought it was a collection of minds, not one leading the rest. Douglas Howswer made some good points as did Muszak. JD is preachin to the choir and you guys are being hypocrites.
“Jermaine Dupri: A Good Album is More than Just a Collection of Singles”
Isn’t that what we have been waiting to hear from a mainstream figure, just a figure from the South period, this whole time.
1st off. Keep your insults
2nd. Im not waiting for anybody in the industry to tell me what I already know. I’m waiting for artists and labels to reflect that knowledge in the music they put out.
NEVER I SAY….. NEVER. LONG LIVE MAC
Well TC their is nothing left for me to say you summed it up perfectly.
TC u summed it up perfectly…people dont realize how sweet of a deal apple made with the music industry…they’re pimpin the shit out of the music industry!…lol…
…and to the cat that said d4l and snap music wasnt succesful, you’re wrong because those songs/artists are the ones who really blew up this ringtone/single BS…
…this generation is DEF missing out on the value of the Album and the role it plays in the quality of music…
At the risk of showing my age…
I’ve had TSS bookmarked for almost 2 years now. The one thing I’ve noticed is that those that visit here are anything but the average consumer. Most of people between the ages of 14 and 21 don’t have the patience to sit through an album. This ringtone/single driven industry is what it is. What I haven’t figured out are things the way they are because the consumer forced the market in that way , the presence of the itunes/internet, or both.
I partially agree with JD. What the artists need to figure out is how to cut out the labels (the middleman in this equation) and get their money from the consumers.
“…and to the cat that said d4l and snap music wasnt succesful, you’re wrong because those songs/artists are the ones who really blew up this ringtone/single BS…”
How? If they arent selling records (which they arent) and Itunes is making the money off the singles (which they are), where is this success you speak of? Are they getting more money selling singles/ringtones on itunes/jamster than they would selling albums? I don’t think so. Otherwise JD wouldn’t be complaining and AG would be on Itunes.
Just because a record gets played on the radio or you see a video on MTV doesn’t mean that an artist is getting broke off (as JD can attest to). Ask anybody whoever signed to BadBoy. Big difference between “fame” and success. Don’t confuse the two.
“people dont realize how sweet of a deal apple made with the music industry…they’re pimpin the shit out of the music industry!…lol…”
I agree. But ill ask you this. Why should we care? the Industry has been pimpin the artist AND the consumer since the beginning of recorded music. Itunes ain’t the problem, (though it may not be the solution either). The industry is. they got fat off feeding the consumer bullshit and fucking the artsists for years. If the industry can’t adapt it deserves to die. “AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!”
What does Jermaine Dupri know about making a good album??
I agree with some of the points here, but I think everyone’s coming down too hard on JD. All he’s saying is that the album sales and artists are suffering due to fans being able to just cherry pick individual tracks, that it takes away from the experience of a complete album, the artform suffers and Apple’s getting rich off their work. This effect at the same time doesn’t provide incentives for artists to make great albums because of the emphasis on singles. He’s saying that they need to take back the power; he doesn’t necessarily say how. I think if artists/labels could release albums directly to the consumer digitally at a low cost, many people would purchase. I would gladly pay a subscription fee for no-limits, no-drm music, but with so many hands in the pot, everyone will never be able to agree and that’s never gonna happen. To ignore digital music, which I don’t think he’s trying to say, would be futile. His comments on not caring about what the consumer wants are reckless at best. Even the notion of destroying the Ipod market is ignorant. He’s just offering complaints, not solutions and he did make some missteps in his comments, but not as bad as everyone’s making him to be.
great article, well done.
reading JD’s piece tho i didnt automatically jump to the conclusion that you did, but having read what you say i generally agree with you.
the whole thing with the music industry right now is like watching a dog fight and no one knowing who’s gonna win or how its gonna turn out. the industry vs the consumers. both sides might end up fatally wounded.
the industry as we knew it has just made its money for too long selling crap to 13 year olds.
i think someone somewhere, whoever it is that makes this kind of thing happen, is going to shut down the internet as we know it. i think that in the eyes of those in real power we have here too much freedom and too much potential for democratic change.
god bless the internet, either way you look at it.
hear hear I tried to shed a little light on the misconceptions JD tries to perpetuate in this post:
http://gillmoreboy.blogspot.com/2007/11/news-jermaine-dupri-mouths-off-for-his.html
I am mostly silent observer ( um and freeloader ) but sometimes, just sometimes I have to let loose with a badly punctuated stream of consciousness-like tantrum….
Props to Beware. No guessing where my loyalties lie.
Ummm? Not sure that I get what some of the dl dudes are espousing right hurr? Oh and I know who I am talking about. I just do quasi subliminals but I do respect dudes too. All the more reason for me to vent..
Dudes be embracing the freeness whilst siding with Janet’s midget? It is sooo bad to have the choice/right to buy singles but not to use limewire & co. Puhleeease…
If ( the midget ) hates Apple & B.E.T/MTV ( and they are selling his shit! ) what do you think he thinks of you????
He wants to render your I – Pod obsolete because you do not want to to buy all you can eat..
Dude is happy to push (c)rappers telling tales of pushing weight, yet he gets all aggy at a legitimate corporation making power moves. He should be giving Apple props and simultaneously working out how to take back the bacon..
Like he is going to delete his back catalogue form I – Tunes. Not!
Last time I remember, record companies were still pushing crappy singles at eye-watering prices.
It is just that we now have somewhere else to buy them ( albums ). Oh and we can demo them too. Good if your music is good. Bad if it is bad, as in bad meaning bad. Not bad meaning good..
Personally I try and then buy. D’ont we all…
He reminds me of them Metallica dudes. They smashed on Napster and ended up with Apple. Bit off more than they could chew..2000 wiki: ‘Public ridicule was widespread as Metallica had gotten their start via underground trading of bootleg recordings of their performances’ Suckers…
I could give a f*ck where Jay Z puts his album for sale? If it is good I will buy it. If not I will just grab a single or two. Limewire I hear you calling. Be right thurr.
I could give a f*ck about Jobs et al. All Evil Empire as far as I am concerned..Just that. No more, no less. Still we all love a little (i) related evil don’t we..
Hell, I -Tunes sucks monkey balls. Mostly. However it does give you the opportunity to sample an album in full. Ouch! If you wack that is. I am not buying all the I – Tunes doesn’t give you ownership of the music you purchase nonsense.
Um, Step 1: Buy it. Step 2: Burn it. Step 3: Save it.
Mean to tell me you would not have purchased Paid in Full, Illmatic, Life After Death, Reasonable Doubt, Breakin Atoms, The Chronic, Midnight Marauders, Straight Outta Compton, Untouchable etc if I -Tunes was in existence?
You say no, you no nada.
The reality is that we as music connoisseurs/consumers ( not always the same thing ) are now empowered in terms of both choice ( music is disseminated across cyberspace in the blink of an eye ) and point of purchase ( or not ).
The balance of power has truly shifted. If record companies were not so focussed on futile attempts at protecting the profits from halcyon ( for them, not us ) days gone by… they would, could, should focus on a new business model that embraces modern technology.
Or they could simply desist from putting out straight wick, wickety-wackness en masse.
What about the artist? He/she is getting raped anyway. For every Fiddy you will have a Fiasco. People buy one but not the other. Downloading stops one artist from hitting a mill in a week and another from hitting a mill in a year. It will not stop an artist from hitting the loyal customer year on year. I will cop my Outkast, Nas, D’Angelo regardless of them being on a big or small label. Oh and I will go to their shows and show them much love. See that is the beauty of a true fan-base. We are actually a bonafide stan-base.
The reality of the current climate will be cold for those that do it for the dollar. Those that do it from the heart will surely prosper. Tell me the new Outkast/Drama joint doesn’t have you fiending….90s to the year Andre 3000! Old with the new…Nice and smooth.
The sooner so-called artists realise that they have the technology at their fingertips to bring music to the masses, the better. All you need is some of that hustler savvy that they seem so fond of. Do not wait for massa to serve you. There can be only one Jay -Z. One Diddy. One Fiddy.
You can burn, market and ship across the globe with but a few taps and tweaks. If you are in it for the love, whats the harm in perfecting your craft while you make plans to blow.
Do it yourself, earn dough, keep a live flow, no compromises, no means no. Learn your craft sonny/sonnete. Then we the discerning consumer will say yes. Or at least maybe….
Peace to TSS, Gotty & Crew. Thanks for making gray days blue and blue days bluer… Nice evolution but still participating in the revolution…
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I hate that little dwarf!1-he goes on like Apple bootlegg albums.
He speaks about being an artist and he’s TRASH.
He’s suppose 2 b from “the hood” but sounds like a jew.
How much $$££ do they want.Their attitude toward the consumer is terrible.Did we or any1 moan in the 80s when cds came out?No every1 bought their entire collection again.So tough shit JD and music execs you’ve lost,face it.
JDs going 2 phaze out i pods.LOL!!!!And his wifes a fukin freak cuz she dissed 2pac!!FUK EM
I don’t know, maybe JD has a point. iTunes biggest selling advantage is appeal, packaging, and convenience. The idea of selling a single song is simply genius. It’s a mind trick that works masterfully on us all. If there’s an album over ten tracks, you’re already overpaying for a song. The argument in this blog itself shows just how successful Apple has been in their endeavors. JD said “no more iPods,” not no more mp3 players. Apple has so dominated that even competitors selling the same technology at half the price can’t even compete. They don’t even enter our minds.