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		<title>By: amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some guy named kev samples had a mixtape called r&amp;b is dead</description>
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		<title>By: K1NG</title>
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		<dc:creator>K1NG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Percy Miracles needs to come out with a full album and blow these suckas away.\At least his shit would be entertaining!</description>
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		<title>By: mf luder</title>
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		<dc:creator>mf luder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good look on the majik most. thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: bigfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigfamily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think R&amp;B is in the same desert it was in during the early 80&#039;s

- No definitive voice
- too much assembly line production.

While Anthony Hamilton is a great singer, he&#039;s a soul singer for the most part. 
There&#039;s no Whitney, Anita Baker, Aaron Hal for the masses. Everyone is rehashing Thriller or biting  D&#039;angelo/   r Kelly to be creative. 
Artist I&#039;m checking for are
Alicia Keys
Keyshia Cole
Tank
Van Hunt
Rahsaan Patterson
Ledisi
Dwele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think R&amp;B is in the same desert it was in during the early 80&#8242;s</p>
<p>- No definitive voice<br />
- too much assembly line production.</p>
<p>While Anthony Hamilton is a great singer, he&#8217;s a soul singer for the most part.<br />
There&#8217;s no Whitney, Anita Baker, Aaron Hal for the masses. Everyone is rehashing Thriller or biting  D&#8217;angelo/   r Kelly to be creative.<br />
Artist I&#8217;m checking for are<br />
Alicia Keys<br />
Keyshia Cole<br />
Tank<br />
Van Hunt<br />
Rahsaan Patterson<br />
Ledisi<br />
Dwele</p>
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		<title>By: RIP Sean Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIP Sean Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is someone going to come out with a &quot;R&amp;B is DEAD&quot; album?</description>
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		<title>By: Gottyâ„¢</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gottyâ„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anybody mention Usher yet?

I&#039;ll drop another reply in a sec maybe. Some of the names mentioned are &quot;honorable mentions&quot; @ best. 

Neo soul been dead. The names who made it relevant fell off ages ago. D&#039;Angelo, L Boogie, Erykah, etc.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll drop another reply in a sec maybe. Some of the names mentioned are &#8220;honorable mentions&#8221; @ best. </p>
<p>Neo soul been dead. The names who made it relevant fell off ages ago. D&#8217;Angelo, L Boogie, Erykah, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: FLEA: AKA THE BIG DOE FLEA-HAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLEA: AKA THE BIG DOE FLEA-HAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck R&amp;B, never been a fan and never will be. I&#039;m a straight B-Boy for life. If it ain&#039;t Al Green I ain&#039;t trying to hear it. Play some Green with your shorty, action guaranteed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck R&amp;B, never been a fan and never will be. I&#8217;m a straight B-Boy for life. If it ain&#8217;t Al Green I ain&#8217;t trying to hear it. Play some Green with your shorty, action guaranteed!</p>
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		<title>By: The Coolest</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coolest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had got the total tape thru bmg...i wasnt feelin them dike bitches...i agree with thumper about the greasy over the top 90s r &amp; b...that shits embarassin...im always up for sum curtis mayfield, marvin gaye and my main man AL GREEN who i dont think i even saw mentioned once...the new stuff out now is just disposable...the whole music bussiness is fucked right now...its not just downloadin...i think its lack of quality music. Its like why buy it if u can just download it...there not gonna have but 2 good songs anyway. Even all the people who we usually look 2 2 make the classic albums have been letting the fans down...whether it be the roots, Nas, etc...o and they need 2 put R. kelly lil dic rapist ass in jail. Did nobody else get that pide piper shit. Its like he was clownin america. the pide piper in the fairy tale was a guy who came 2 a town and lead the peoples kids away with his music cuz there parents didnt pay him for getting rid of the rats....is that not sick 2 anybody else but me?? he lead away ppls kids 2 fuck em...lol...i bet he did it b4 and hes gonna do it again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had got the total tape thru bmg&#8230;i wasnt feelin them dike bitches&#8230;i agree with thumper about the greasy over the top 90s r &amp; b&#8230;that shits embarassin&#8230;im always up for sum curtis mayfield, marvin gaye and my main man AL GREEN who i dont think i even saw mentioned once&#8230;the new stuff out now is just disposable&#8230;the whole music bussiness is fucked right now&#8230;its not just downloadin&#8230;i think its lack of quality music. Its like why buy it if u can just download it&#8230;there not gonna have but 2 good songs anyway. Even all the people who we usually look 2 2 make the classic albums have been letting the fans down&#8230;whether it be the roots, Nas, etc&#8230;o and they need 2 put R. kelly lil dic rapist ass in jail. Did nobody else get that pide piper shit. Its like he was clownin america. the pide piper in the fairy tale was a guy who came 2 a town and lead the peoples kids away with his music cuz there parents didnt pay him for getting rid of the rats&#8230;.is that not sick 2 anybody else but me?? he lead away ppls kids 2 fuck em&#8230;lol&#8230;i bet he did it b4 and hes gonna do it again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Desi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh man Total brings back memories thanks!

Don&#039;t forget about Eric Roberson, Robin Thicke..

Where is Jon B?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh man Total brings back memories thanks!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget about Eric Roberson, Robin Thicke..</p>
<p>Where is Jon B?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Thumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>f&#039;real are yall SERIOUS?? Pining for the &quot;good ol days&quot; days of Jagged Edge &amp; Jodeci?????!!!


Those fuckers were soooo damn corny &amp; over the top &amp; embarrassing compared to what R&amp;B was before them &amp; STILL compared to what&#039;s came after -- right now.

I&#039;d understand reminiscing about the &quot;Neo Soul&quot; period because that left us with some pure blooded classics (Miseducation &amp; Voodoo), even though it got a lil extra boho at times, perhaps indulged themselves too much to keep the appeal going, &amp; the name sucked... But altogether I&#039;d say that looking back &amp; fully re-appreciating the best of that period would do your musical tastes &amp; babymaking skills some good.


&amp; I also understand the &quot;ironic throwback&quot; appeal of jamming to some over-the-top groaning Keith Sweat &amp; Jodeci sometimes. Blurting drunkenly to &quot;Body rocking knocking the boots yeaaaahhhh!!&quot;  

but you definitely can&#039;t SERIOUSLY really try to reminisce &amp; miss the days of that over-the-top, over-sung, over-sexed greasy oiled up shirt off 90&#039;s shit.  -- I&#039;d easily say that era is unequivocaly the DIRGE &amp; lowest point in the time-line of R&amp;B.

and besides that, I mean, it&#039;s basically still here if you want to listen to wack ass Tank or Tyrese/Omarion/Pretty Ricky/whatever the fuck if that&#039;s what you wanna do...
Or Ursh/Beyonce and John Legend/Alicia Keys still provide if you want that soft Wooowoowoo foreplayish shit


but Meanwhile ANTHONY HAMILTON is probably the best voice &amp; making the best &quot;CLASSIC&quot; type soul in years. Better than a great deal of 70&#039;s classic shit. &amp; Just barely still sliding under the radar is The Dap Kings re-birthing the whole Funk Soul tradition alongside Sharon Jones, and that UK crackhead Beehive wearing Winehouse girl, Quantic Soul Orchestra, Nicole Willis, &amp; a gang of other artists really getting it popping under the radar that might blow up full blown in the next years...

&amp; then there&#039;s the whole Sa-Ra/J*Davey/PPP/Bilal/Polow/Ryan Leslie futuristic space soul sound being built...

MATTER OF FACT, TRUTH BE TOLD T-Pain &amp; R.Kelly going back &amp; forth one-upping eachother is probably the most exciting artistic competition I&#039;ve seen in years. Though it&#039;s half-joke &amp; low brow -- They&#039;re still by far the only ones that&#039;re visibly competing, inspiring eachother &amp; having fun actually enjoying themselves making this music. Throw The-Dream in that ring and that&#039;s the funniest most creative Triumvirate that we&#039;ve seen in years. Lord knows it&#039;s not high art &amp; doesn&#039;t try to fit the &quot;classic&quot; mold, but it&#039;s still significant, the most exuberant exciting fresh music in the Mainstream 

&amp; pardon me but &#039;Bed&#039; does fit the &quot;Classic&quot; mold. Babies will still be being made off that track for years to come... I Need a extended 12 minute version for that track.


long story short:
R&amp;B is quite thoroughly kicking Rap&#039;s ass at the moment, doggie. Nobody in rap is having fun except the little kids. The grownups are all uninspired &amp; just tryngta keep the checks coming. Even with Kanye/OutKast being creative it&#039;s still not like there&#039;s a MOVEMENT worth joining or being excited about. Just kids with &quot;regional scenes&quot; that rapidly get over-exposed &amp; boiled down to just dance moves, &amp; a bunch of bitter grownups with complicated business ventures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>f&#8217;real are yall SERIOUS?? Pining for the &#8220;good ol days&#8221; days of Jagged Edge &amp; Jodeci?????!!!</p>
<p>Those fuckers were soooo damn corny &amp; over the top &amp; embarrassing compared to what R&amp;B was before them &amp; STILL compared to what&#8217;s came after &#8212; right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d understand reminiscing about the &#8220;Neo Soul&#8221; period because that left us with some pure blooded classics (Miseducation &amp; Voodoo), even though it got a lil extra boho at times, perhaps indulged themselves too much to keep the appeal going, &amp; the name sucked&#8230; But altogether I&#8217;d say that looking back &amp; fully re-appreciating the best of that period would do your musical tastes &amp; babymaking skills some good.</p>
<p>&amp; I also understand the &#8220;ironic throwback&#8221; appeal of jamming to some over-the-top groaning Keith Sweat &amp; Jodeci sometimes. Blurting drunkenly to &#8220;Body rocking knocking the boots yeaaaahhhh!!&#8221;  </p>
<p>but you definitely can&#8217;t SERIOUSLY really try to reminisce &amp; miss the days of that over-the-top, over-sung, over-sexed greasy oiled up shirt off 90&#8242;s shit.  &#8212; I&#8217;d easily say that era is unequivocaly the DIRGE &amp; lowest point in the time-line of R&amp;B.</p>
<p>and besides that, I mean, it&#8217;s basically still here if you want to listen to wack ass Tank or Tyrese/Omarion/Pretty Ricky/whatever the fuck if that&#8217;s what you wanna do&#8230;<br />
Or Ursh/Beyonce and John Legend/Alicia Keys still provide if you want that soft Wooowoowoo foreplayish shit</p>
<p>but Meanwhile ANTHONY HAMILTON is probably the best voice &amp; making the best &#8220;CLASSIC&#8221; type soul in years. Better than a great deal of 70&#8242;s classic shit. &amp; Just barely still sliding under the radar is The Dap Kings re-birthing the whole Funk Soul tradition alongside Sharon Jones, and that UK crackhead Beehive wearing Winehouse girl, Quantic Soul Orchestra, Nicole Willis, &amp; a gang of other artists really getting it popping under the radar that might blow up full blown in the next years&#8230;</p>
<p>&amp; then there&#8217;s the whole Sa-Ra/J*Davey/PPP/Bilal/Polow/Ryan Leslie futuristic space soul sound being built&#8230;</p>
<p>MATTER OF FACT, TRUTH BE TOLD T-Pain &amp; R.Kelly going back &amp; forth one-upping eachother is probably the most exciting artistic competition I&#8217;ve seen in years. Though it&#8217;s half-joke &amp; low brow &#8212; They&#8217;re still by far the only ones that&#8217;re visibly competing, inspiring eachother &amp; having fun actually enjoying themselves making this music. Throw The-Dream in that ring and that&#8217;s the funniest most creative Triumvirate that we&#8217;ve seen in years. Lord knows it&#8217;s not high art &amp; doesn&#8217;t try to fit the &#8220;classic&#8221; mold, but it&#8217;s still significant, the most exuberant exciting fresh music in the Mainstream </p>
<p>&amp; pardon me but &#8216;Bed&#8217; does fit the &#8220;Classic&#8221; mold. Babies will still be being made off that track for years to come&#8230; I Need a extended 12 minute version for that track.</p>
<p>long story short:<br />
R&amp;B is quite thoroughly kicking Rap&#8217;s ass at the moment, doggie. Nobody in rap is having fun except the little kids. The grownups are all uninspired &amp; just tryngta keep the checks coming. Even with Kanye/OutKast being creative it&#8217;s still not like there&#8217;s a MOVEMENT worth joining or being excited about. Just kids with &#8220;regional scenes&#8221; that rapidly get over-exposed &amp; boiled down to just dance moves, &amp; a bunch of bitter grownups with complicated business ventures.</p>
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