
Words by Patrick M.
“About Two weeks later she called me with some bullshit/Talking about her period’s late guess what I did? Click…”
Someone from G-Unit or Cash Money showing their gangsterism and disdain for nappy headed hoez? Maybe an old-school G like Ice Cube or Kool G Rap shocking and aweing their way into fame and Tipper Gore’s bad graces?
No. This advocate of involuntary abortions (and murder) was none other than Mr. Cupid Valentino himself – Andre 3000. The line comes from the track “Hootie Hoo,” off of the duo’s ’94 debut Southernplaylisticadillacmusik. The song, with its ominous bass line and tales of southern playerism from Big Boi and Andre, epitomizes the mood of the entire album and the duo’s view of themselves as they came onto the scene. It works brilliantly; if I do ever decide to go on a multi-city/state crime spree, this track will be on my iPod playlist in the getaway vehicle.
This song and album contradicts the standard “line” on Outkast, who are probably the most-written about rap group by popular music critics. But many of these “in-depth” bios are tired clichés – Andre is the eccentric genius that drives the group to be creative, while Big Boi is the thuggish element that provides balance or rides his coattails, depending on who is critiquing. Mixing Dre’s weirdness with Big Boi’s gutta, we get the most important Southern rap artists of all time.
I understand the reasons for these clichés, mostly because the actions of the duo reinforce it. Andre wears weird outfits and talks about wanting to go to Juilliard, tut this portrayal betrays what Outkast was originally about, even if it fits what may be happening with the group today. When we dig deeper into the group’s musical history, the cliché falls apart. To dig D.E.E.P. into the beginning of Outkast’s career shows that their roots aren’t in outer space or the Native Tongues, but the Geto Boys and N.W.A.
The most apt comparison for what they were on this album is a Southern Mobb Deep, trading the clutter and urban paranoia of Queens for a more relaxed vibe of the ATL.
Both Dre and Antwan were youngsters at the time of this release, yet both were almost fully formed as MCs. The lack of national recognition this album garnered has nothing to do with Outkast and everything to do with the South’s absence from the scene in 1994. The songs, both from a production standpoint (the first major release by Organized Noise,) and lyrical ferocity, hold up to anything released that year or released by ‘Kast since.This was not a case of a group finding their footing later on in their career. Outkast were already great.
“Call of the Wild” provides examples of how tight and influential the production and rhymes already were. The beat predates crunk, yet the bass would certainly fit in a Lil Jon track today. The percussion and funky horns that became Organized Noise staples are already in place. Meanwhile, Dre and Big Boi drop the rhymes, shining not with abstract or in-depth lyrical content, but technical and straightforward gangster rhyming. Here is one Big Boi salvo:
“Yeah, I’m steady buckin muthafuckas /Not duckin ‘em like the goose, I’m
heavily strapped, yeah niggaz/Squeezin rhymes like that noose around your
neck/You can’t hang with this, see ain’t no thangs to this/I show no pity so
take off because I’m dangerous.”
It sounds so pretty coming out of Antwan’s mouth, even if it’s meant to be thuggish. That’s the thing about both Dre and Big Boi – they have such natural rap talent in terms of how their voices sound and ability to manipulate rhythms vocally, that it makes sense that they pushed the envelope. Creating this album almost came too easily for them.
Over the years, they pushed the limits and crafted as great a catalogue of rap songs as any other artist. By the time Speakerboxxx/The Love Below came around, they were faced with the irony that something they had helped create (the southern sound) had become so popular it had fallen victim to least common denominator syndrome. Even more disastrously, Andre reacted to this by deciding to broaden into lounge singing. (I like The Love Below alright, but come on….it’s like MJ playing baseball.) I started resigning myself to the fact that like all good things, Outkast had come to an end.
But they ain’t dead yet. Dre has rediscovered his rap game and “International Players Anthem” is one of the hottest tracks of the summer. In fact, from the title it sounds like something that should have been on Southernplaylistic… Maybe Dre and Big Boi popped in the tape and thought to themselves, “Damn that shit was tight.” Will they ever drop another album like this?
We can only dream.
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Insight ( discography links ) please
Reviews !! intelligence rap !
Why Great&Famous emcee like Nas, or other don’t connect with this underground people to make exaggerate the hiphop, an album with big productions as usual, but meetings between truth to rapper, guys really passionate, with gifted guys, musicians why Nas does not collaborate with The Roots for instance, they do not know each other well but it is an occasion
Agreed, commercial impact and everything but it there would not need it, seen that a worldwide rappeur can afford it and on top of that would tie one news bases of fan and to create of big things meme the mass there interesserait, not that of the dirty south but truth! and then Nas on last sound disc did not search it in any case. and then if guys of the south, as outkast arrive in another type at this type of creation, for step with these guys there. here is. opinion to the creators! revolutionary
Insight, Edan.. an underground finest !?! or finally they are not so good as it
the creativeness such is not acknowledged when they had a big success once, they are a tone below, they are too political, politically wrong. TSS when has review!
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Outkast Best Rap Duo That ever Did it!! I was looking for the OutKast Discography!? I need that Southernplayalistik and Stankonia album… it’s funny how they grow legs and walk away!! Can anyone up those for me!? Appreciate it!
I dont agree the Gift, I would like to say UGK is the best duo to ever do it….I wanted to say CNN but they cant even last past one reunion album, can one of you great writers do a post on CNN cause I dont know if they still a group or not, is NORE still signed as a solo artist on the Def Jam or what is really poppin??…
great write marmar. definitely pleased with how that turned out. well done.
saw slick rick last night for free. great to see a legend in action but not terribly impressed with the overall performance…
but i’m lovin graduation so it all balances out…
Outkast is the best group ever. i even put them ahead of wu tang in their glory years. dre usually gets the most shine in the group cuz he is so flamboyant, but i think big boi is just as good.
“nah, nah, couldn’t be me, not me”
Blazed – AHH just did a good interview with Nore within the past week covering a lot of things you may be nterested in… http://allhiphop.com/blogs/features/archive/2007/08/29/18500471.aspx … http://allhiphop.com/blogs/features/archive/2007/08/28/18500404.aspx
An OutKast discog post would be nice
isnt ‘hootie hoo’ off aquemini??
anyone need outkast links i got em i got the whoel disco
Dao Jones-U should listen to Outkast & ONLY Outkast for a week straight
BlazeDaCannonz-UGK: as much as love them don’t have no where near the talent to even compete with Outkast on any level…
While I do feel that Outkast very well may be the best group, up until September 11th, 2001 Mobb Deep may have had a better discography. Sure it was gangsta shit but its pretty damn vivid
The Best “Duo” Rapper in USA:
but speak we only about duo rap or blend with it too the talents of musicians and producers of them or often to one of the members of the group, what can distinctly reduce this list of which I have think i one minute:
UGK
Outkast
8BALL & MJG
Slum Village
EPMD
CNN (Capone N Noreaga)
MEF & FUNK DOC (Blackout disc, for exempl)
BlackStar (Kweli&MosDef)
Mobb deep
Heltah Skeltah (Sean Price, said that is the best crew in the world)
Little Brother
Luniz (i dont think so but )
lol
Common & Q-Tip called The Standard, coming soon too !!!
so ? !! an article on this subject !
pEACe
I’m sorry but there are only a few groups, off the top of my head, who has a discography of full of noteworthy & standout albums that pushed the envelope musically, socially, etc….
PE
And then Kast.
Period.
Maybe De La, but they’ve had one or two subpar joints.
UGK – I love’em but it’s nothing in comparision.
Mobb Deep – Enh…reaching real hard w/them.
The Roots – Maybe. In some ways.
Beastie Boys – (see The Roots)
Hootie Hoo was on the first album.
^^^U sir. Hell On Earth right now!!!
Puttin Mobb anywhere near the top when they’re recent albums have been a mixture of good stuff & hot poop…noncipher.
yeah i was thinkin slump..
TC- trust me ive spent my fair share of weeks listening to nothing but ‘Kast.
Oh of course. Like I said, up in September 11th, 2001 they was in the running. Its a wrap now though…
i really dont see how the roots would compare to kast, but i definitely see what you’re saying about mobb and ugk. return of the mac was hot though. hopefully havoc’s kush will be as well. his beats on 50′s cd are dope. curtis 187 is a banger.
Let us not forget ATCQ
Roots & Kast don’t compare musically b/c they both have totally different sounds. But if you look @ their overall consistency & impact on music as an art, they’re there. No, no one is really following in the Roots footsteps, but…I don’t know how to phrase it properly. They’ve got a certain “it” in their sound that pushes them to another level where other groups are trying to make it to. It might be comparable to the Seven Wonders Of The World. None are remotely the same but they all have their own unique elements of grandeur.
Yeah ATCQ…man.
Strength of album consistency should always be considered when you’re talkin’ bout “best of…” and the Tribe well their albums is how you say that….”piff”!!! Matter fact I’m going to work bumping “The Love Movement” its been a while…that is….
IF I CAN GET FLASHING LIGHTS OUTTA MY HEAD!!! Dammit, I went to sleep with that it me head…..
That’s Kelis right?
http://changetolink.com/14OU8
&
MOP in 2008 Album probably great
Brand New music from M.O.P.: ‘Ordinary’.
Hot !
Big ups to the Roots man..and Tribe! I never meant to put them on the side or bottom… I agree Gotty, Roots is in a class of they own, their Live performances are definitely unforgettable! Tribe is consistant and we can’t never forget what they’ve given Hiphop(i hate they broke up!) But right now man Outkast stays in my pocket I have never questioned if another top artist was releasing their album the same day as Outkast and I only had $15 who’s album is getting peeled open before I even got to the whip! No Doubt! I like UGK especially this last album but NO comparison! I never really looked at P.E. as a “Group” but that’s just me…
Can we get an Outkast discography link??
That “period late” lyric always served as a reminder of how n*ggas could go bad.
Meaning, consciousness n*ggas can be scandalous too.
i dont see how any1 can compare mobb 2 outkast…any of outkast’s 1st 3 albums will kill any mobb album thats ever come out- i agree that mobb deep was on some quality shit their 1st 2 albums- but then they fell hard- i think havoc elevated his lyrics alot and his production is always on point- but p is wack as fuck now.
U mean 1st THREE. Murda Muzik may be the best one. Its like the Mobb 2.0. Havoc was a more established producer hence the several of the beats of The Infamous using the same drums and sound effects. Classic nonetheless. I’d have to take the Mobb’s 1st 2over Kast’s 1st two with “Aquemini” beating anything Mobb ever did. And U can’t dismiss H.N.I.C. for it being the last true to form Mobb product. And for the record, the Mobb got 4.5 Mics 3X in a row. Say what you will about The Source®, that’s saying a lot….
ehh…we will have 2 agree 2 disagree on that 1.
i was goin thru my CDs 2day and came acrossed an album i 4got about, and really slept on, now i regret not listening 2 it when i 1st got it- cuz this joint is dope!
in case any1 else missed it:
Planet Asia – Jewellery Box Sessions – The Album
01. Planet Asia – The Appraisal 01:32
02. Planet Asia – Street Hop 03:04
03. Planet Asia – Take One For The Team (feat. Flii Stylz & Blaqthoven) 05:04
04. Planet Asia – F#ck You Up (feat. Krondon) 03:49
05. Planet Asia – Game Goofy (feat. Diego Redd & Fashawn) 04:04
06. Planet Asia – Comin’ Home (feat. Celetia Martin) 04:12
07. Planet Asia – Master Builder (feat. Flii Stylz) 02:31
08. Planet Asia – Family Tree (feat. Kemet & Shake Da Mayor) 03:16
09. Planet Asia – Fly Boy (feat. Bun B) 04:40
10. Planet Asia – G.O.D. In The Flesh 04:39
11. Planet Asia – City Of Quartz (feat. Killa Ben, Tristate & Turkin) 03:42
12. Planet Asia – Up In Smoke 03:55
13. Planet Asia – Hustler Anthems (feat. Chace Infinite) 02:48
14. Planet Asia – Today’s Mathematics (feat. Tristate) 02:24
15. Planet Asia – Havin’ Thangs 08:10
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LOL. O.K.
I can’t agree wit you on that one TC… Hell on Earth was way better than Murda Muzik! Infamous was their Classic album instantly! The only track that was really hot was that Quiet Storm(remix)… Mobb’s 1st 2 over Kast’s 1st 2 Naw… That ATliens set a bar! That album made Outkast sell out concerts and took them to a whole notha level(no pun intended) All though that Mobb “Drop a Gem” was the shit! I can name all the songs on ATLiens and not once will you say skip that one…
WOW, I really effed up, Tribe and EPMD is always at the top of my favorite duo…Maybe I was just thinking for the moment, let me go reconfigure my mental liabary and I will come up with some more popular duos’
*library
A lot of people slept on Kaslt first cd and came to the party real late when the rest of the catalog dropped. I remember the Outkast picnic in da A where Biggie performed (that’s the clip on the Ready To Die cd/dvd deluxe pacake). Outkast has always been pushing the elevator up…
Gotty… whenever I wear my Rocksmith Joint I see peeps readin and wondering what the hell or where do I know that line from… hahaha
Also the offical Big Boi solo project is due in 08…
Ok im back….
Yea ima PHILLY nigga but I gotta go with M.O.P!!! FIRST FAM my niggaz!!!
Im just totally into that gangster stuff, dude….than i will go with IMD….Tribe….P.E…..Naughty made some good music together….but for some reason I still wanna put UGK up there, damn I cant nobody to co-sig??
How about Eric B. & Rakim or Dj Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince or Run D.M.C. or Kid n’ Play or Fat Boyz or Beastie Boyz or Kool G. Rap & Dj Polo is my all time best am I being to vintage??
“Quiet Storm” is the ONLY hot joint on MM???? Yeah I guess Kool G Raps (or Alchemist’s classsic beat) didn’t get the job done. “Where Ya Heart At”? “Streets Raised Me”? “Its Mine”w/Nas??? Surely there’s some folks out that remember the Mobb’s glory days. You’re not gonna hear me say that Kast wasn’t better than Mobb cuz they were/are but Mobb put better albums out @ the beginning. Everytime I someone trys to big up ATLiens too much I always make this point: As far as all the Kast albums go, ATLiens has the least amount of variation in the production. Look @ every song. Dark, damp, moody, put the “D” in the Dungeon Family. Hot shit? Of course! But its easy too see why its not nowhere their best album. Look @ the collaborations from the 1st albums. “Right Back @ U” destroys “Call Of The Wild”. Impact of singles: “Player’s Ball” vs. “Shook Ones”. Its not even close. Kast was waaay more lyrical with there’s but the Mobb made 3 straight albums of tough talk and it never got old…
Where Tribe and Mobb have fantastic consistency, its the broad reach and variation of Outkast and The Roots that make the latter groups just a bit better.
Outkast has the best discography in hip hop, period. No one comes even close. First 5 are all classics. ATLiens lacking in variation? I’d rather call the tracks unified on a production standpoint. If i’d had to say one rap album that’s really an ALBUM instead of just a collection of songs, it would be this one here. No skipping required has never been so true. Also one of the dopest intros you ever gonna here.
actually id take GIT UP, GIT OUT as a much better collab than RIGHT BACK @ U
Can we get an OUTKAST Discography, please!? Where’s our savior Gotty!? The people want it! lol
I agree Wit
Right Bac At You??
The one from the Soul in the Hole soundtrack….The one with the best bassline every created….The one with the best P verse ever?? or the one from the Infamous dayz with the gangsta and gritty lryics??
*opps*I said ‘Soul in the Hole’
it may have been ‘Sunset Park’ soundtrack
ohhhh, we FINALLY agree on something…
RUUUUUUNNNNNNN RUUUUNNNN D-M-C!!!!
the one and only.
best who ever did it
or these otha nukkas wouldn’ta done it.
PERIOD.
I can’t believe 43 comments deep and there was NO mention of Run-DMC…
no respect. 5 years from now cats gonna be saying papoose was better than rakim or some sh*t…
*sickening*
Man I was so ready to say EPMD earlier…
sorry, but RUN DMC were never as good as Outkast.
^ DITTO!
I gotta agree with you Gotty…
Public Enemy & Outkast… I will have to say though, after this many albums, I may have to bump Outkast slightly ahead.
The Roots are definitely #3 in my book. They are however the greatest “live band” on the planet (IMO of course).
The rest on that list either haven’t put out as high of quantity, or aren’t anywhere close in quality.
i love how we can have wonderful discussions in here.
i love you guys! *cries*
I-LOVE-U-2-TO-U-SEXXY-DRUNK-AND-HOT-GIRLLLLLLLLLL
LOL man I didn’t want to seem disrespectful but I felt that same way about Run DMC. w/o a doubt, they were trailblazers & paved the way. But musically, their catalog doesn’t hold up against some of the groups mentioned.
Outkast Discography (Courtesy of Wit-E)
http://hhghitfuttvv9c55f.usercash.com
respect the context of the time frame.
run-dmc must’ve been AIIGHT to do what they did when they did it.
Outkast ‘took’ it there, but where they pick it up from?
Got Purp Vol 2
http://hhs4sg6vm2x11nmomtm4k.usercash.com
musically though, y’all are right.. but damn… give d and run a break… they got heads open with a casio…
no1 is sayin RUN DMC werent good, them dudes were pioneers & trendsetters, but lyrically they werent close 2 Outkast, as 4 where Outkast picked it up- they blazed their own trail, think about when they came out, UGK & Scarface were really the only southern cats gettin love outside of the south- and even that was limited, Outkast really kicked the door open 4 southern acts 2 get respect and reach a wider audience.
good looks w/ the outkast joints Gotty… and lemme be clear and unbiased… outkast is crazy with it and always has been…
but run-dmc went GLOBAL with $300 videos…
ha… lemme stop being argumentative… best, best, best is subjective and like krs said in that just blaze interview, cats in ’87 are gonna say ’77, ’97 cats are gonna say ’87, and ’07 dudes’ll say ’97 was that shtt…
as long as audio two ain’t mentioned… wait, audio teo kinda waasss the ish…
excellent review. Outkast, would probably be my favorite if I had to be tied down to it, but while I appreciate their growth, I kinda prefer their 1st 3 albums. EPMD, yeah definately. 8Ball & MJG, yeah they’ve created consistantly good albums, but fell off a bit when they went to Bad Boy. I agree with u TC bout Mobb Deep (pre-2001). Everybody seems to forget their lackluster real 1st album Juvenile Hell, but I did like that Hit It From The Back. While I feel ATCQ, I mainly prefer Low End Theory & Midnight Marauders. UGK yeah, but as far as consistantly good albums all the way through, they always have some filler; I really like the recent one, Super Tight & Ridin Dirty.