“The bitches on the bozack, at the club throwin stacks/It’s star wars – they threw two I threw fo’ back…”

I have an admission to make. I may be one of the few who doesn’t have The Doctor’s Advocate on repeat and may actually be missin the fuss.
Instead, I’ve got Hustler’s P.O.M.E. as my choice for consistent repeat play.
Jim Jones is probably more hated than loved in most circles. Personally I’m wise enough to understand two things – Jim’s an entertainer and he understands multiple aspects of business. Take count and notice he’s put out a dvd, several official mixtapes and milked the shit out of his own & other people’s remixes. He’s put his name, face & brand anywhere he’s given the chance to. And he’s havin fun with it, selling the whole executive/entertainer/entreprenuer image with success.
“The Black Fonz“, often seen clad in black leather, jeans, chain wallets, and gruff beard more akin to a James Dean character IMO, is definitely livin the life of a Black rock star and executes it well on this album, which is part of it’s allure. When the Dips first hit the scene, a chunk of their success relied on Heatmakerz sample-driven beats and choruses; Jim’s flipped that. His formula is now hooks sang by himself of Max B. plus beats manipulated by guitar licks mixed with heavy snares and bass (“Intro“, “Bright Lights, Big City” both featuring Max).
On the intro especially, we see perfect meshing of the image, beats and Jim’s best attempt to stay in tune with the beat, which has greatily improved…
“I’m still praying to God/cause life’s not promised, not even manana…I’m leavin out the club, and the boys right and’em behind us/I’m chasin death, gettin closer to thirty/it’s sunny outside, but the roadster is dirty…”
On POME, it’s not that the lyrics will overwhelm. It’s moreso that Jim has mastered Pac 101 – sell yourself & your image and allow the public to buy into it, so when you do rap, they feel you. And in Jim’s world, the Feds “still spook me in my nightmares.”
“Emotionless” featuring Juelz, one has to wonder if Juelz were not affiliated Dipset, would people give him more credit as a talented force? Rememberable chorus + heavy, slow bass snyced with syths and keys that ride on top of it = muwaah. “Love Of My Life” and “Weatherman” are both prerequisite “we sell/sold dope” tracks but the former has a echoing beat plus Max kills the hook. The latter features Weezy and Stack Bundles…so I guess we’ll thank Jim for taking the L and puttin his ego aside to get outshined on his album.
On “Pin The Tail” feat. Cam, Juelz and Max, Cam finds a good lane between his usual babble and actually spittin what endeared him to OG fans. And Jim? “…then take the proceeds, waste about 4gs/on bottles in the club, trying to get the hoe to skeez/I’m trying to get the dame to breeze, but the hoe puttin up a fight like Layla Ali…middle name “40 on the wrist”/last name “you can’t afford me bitch”/get a camcorder bitch.” Arrogance personafied.
“Don’t Push Me Away” featuring Rell is bubblin type cool mainly because a.) it features Rell whom I assumed was working @ Taco Bell and b.) it has a similar feel to “Love For Free” from the SIW OST from ’96.
I know he’s trying to feed his friends and family, but someone please tell these dudes to stop puttin Jha Jha on tracks (“Get It Poppin“). And while I’m glad to finally get a full version of “Don’t Forget About Me“, the more I listen to it I realize that I don’t like the mix down on this version and this sounds too much like Pac and/or Jeezy with the extensive amount of ad-libs.
Livin life fast. You aggins need to catch up, slow pokes.
Overall, I enjoyed this joint and, whether you accept it or not, Jim keeps doing things from all angles that are worth the price of admission.

You shoulda gotten a check for this write up. Not bad atall.
I sleep on Jones I like I sleep on the rest of the Dipshits. I’ll peep the new joint because it comes recommend by TSS, but dudes like Santana and Cam can’t keep my attention for more than a minute.
I LOVE this LP, and his last one Diary of A Harlem Summer…always in the deck
Jim Jones is SMART. and you gotta RESPECT him. but as far as enjoying his music…i cant cosign. (except for that joint G’s UP…hoes down..whatever dont float, gonna drown…that shit was fire).
after black superman or whatever with stack bundles on 7 day theory i was fiending to hear hustlers pome. wasnt environment mispelled on the cover or some shit? haha. either way, jones was gifted some heat with the production. he can get disgustingly off beat sometimes, but i think that’s a part of the package. he ain’t good at rapping period, but he good at creating a listenable product.
Youre not the only not listening to the Doctor’s Advocate. Where The Documentary was merely vastly overrated the new album is just wack.
Is it the elephant in the room the fact that the We Fly High beat absolute garbage?
Jim Jones? Really? I’ll give it a try cuz I respect your taste. . .
“dudes like Santana can’t keep my attention for more than a minute.
@Skylar
Your not the only person I know who feels that way but IMO u missin’ out. Juelz is nice on the mic. If Juelz can’t keep your attention I doubt Capo will be able to.
Nice post Gotty. Jim Jones is one of those cats ppl either like or hate.
Not really feelin the cd but Reppin’ Time’s been on repeat for a minute..Juelz verse on Emotionless let me down but he made up for it on Pin The Tail..Even though I’m not really feelin’ the cd I stay listening to Jim’s mixtape tracks..Beautiful Noise, Case In Point, Sour D, My Lifes Like A Movie (minus everyone else on the track), Thicker Than Brothers, Bang Out..damn I surprise myself how much Capo I stay bumpin’..and I still stay listenin’ to a few tracks off his last joint ..Harlem and G’s Up are classic IMO
Glad u pointed out “Jim’s an entertainer and he understands multiple aspects of business.” Jim is definately entertaining, muthafucka is unintentionally hilarious on those dvds. I appreciate Dipsets hustle and glad whenever they get their shine on. Not sure where Jay’s been (i know in africa) but talkin’ about Jim is a bum and never made a hit. Last time I checked We Fly High wasn’t doing too bad but cats like Jay (who I love) seem to have lost touch. More young cats are listenin’ to We Fly High than they are waving to Jay’s Show Me What U Got and I hope Jay knows that thats whats really up.
Props on the Capo post.
LOL
As I mentioned, Jimmy is love/hate for most and he’s the sort you either like him or detest his ass.
But, as my man pointed out to me, Jimmy is smart, even w/all the dumb moves we see him making (constantly going @ Jay, etc.). He’s everywhere and you can pretty much assume he’s cashing a check everytime you see or hear him.
I think he’s gotten alot better @ staying on beat and it’s not what he’s saying all the time, but how he’s puttin it out there. Even when he’s strugglin, you kinda get that feel that, unlike some others, he ain’t just doin it nonchalant even if he acts or appears like he is.
We Fly High is one of my least favorite tracks. I prefer Jim dumbin out w/rock-ish beats and embodying the whole rock-n-roll gangster feel that’s not too far off the deep end, like Body Count to Ice-T. Plus, it’s a sound, I think, that’s been missing from hip-hop for years.
Again, don’t accept my opinion as the gospel truth, b/c it ain’t. far from it. Just listen, listen maybe to tracks I pointed out. see what you think. I had expectations to get maybe 1-3 listenable tracks out of this joint and found myself liking it so i gave credit where i felt it was due.
i feel you on the games cd… im not a big game fan. but i am from LA, and his album is on some LA shit. its werid tho, because i dont really like dude as a rapper, but a few tracks on his last album, and alot of tracks on this album are on some LA shit. Which is what draws me to it. ( imma LA nigga like that, cant help it ) But repeat? NO! lol
off subject: am i trippin or does it SOUND there a ton of dre beats on this album?
i know this post is about jim… and you are right about the shit he’s on. but i aint falling for it. Well at least not all the way, i WILL watch him on youtube on all day though lol. but i wont be listening to his album. he can be entertaining as hell. but that dont make for a good record all the time. not like say, 50 lol. now that man cracks me up. Jim is a terrible rapper IMO.
man I can’t stand max b. he tries to sing a hook like 50 but totally misses it. that’s why I can’t 60% off the album because of Max B.
Max = That dude.
Son makes me think I can sing a hook…
Games album is not wack. Jim Jones sucks.
I’m not even gonna preach on and on how The Diplomats music is like fast food and won’t be remembered and all that shit. Their swan offering was 2003′s “Diplomatic Immunity”. They weren’t no innovators or anything but they made bangers. They got a lil’ following got cockier and the music got noticably whacker (Purple Haze anyone???) I just don’t see how some of ya’ll can’t feel that Game. There’s only been a handful of solid albums from start to finish (Meth,Ghost,Luda,Busta) and this is defintely one of them. Matter fact all ya’ll that like Jim Jones are saying one song is tight and another is weak will someone else is saying that song is whack and the other one is tight. Sounds like audio confusion and a clear sign of whackness….
rap was flying high then got suicidial/ imitation jim jones… end up up like cory lidle/
Matter fact all ya’ll that like Jim Jones are saying one song is tight and another is weak will someone else is saying that song is whack and the other one is tight. Sounds like audio confusion and a clear sign of whackness….
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So now people can\’t disagree about which song they like?
Wow. Some people are too full of themselves and give themselves far more credit as \”critics\” than they rightly should.
Again, anything you read here is my opinion, one person, and I don\’t have a rap degree.
Funny thing is, I don\’t think anybody else does either.
To me, even the wackest track, if somebody likes it, it\’s their perrogative. Doesn\’t make or break me in the least.
\”Emotionless\” is still my personal fav although I think \”Pin…\” is one of the best tracks on the album.
In reality though…are we really having a discussion over Jimmy\’s album? Son won if that\’s the case lol.
Have a poll! Have the Dipheads or whatever they callin’ theirselves give you a top 3 and worst 3. See how many cross….music is an opinionated arena but it shouldn’t be that much of disagreement if its generally good music…
Well fuck it then! I just don’t understand why and I’m not saying your site but media as a whole broadcast people like that like its their “time” (Fly High got heavy tvplay) knowing they ain’t gonna be around next year like jkwonafromanrickross.
LOL…i get your point and see your frustration. It’s part of the face of music these days though.
Jim doesn’t have “staying power” and I doubt anyone will argue that w/you. He’ll prolly be in Flav’s spot in 10 yrs.
But I may not be here in 10 yrs either. I’m just enjoying his music today. That’s it for me really.
they ain’t gonna be around next year like jkwonafromanrickross.
^^cams been in the game a decade now. where u been?
You’ll be around in 10 years Gotty. “Hip-Hop” will never die…
Miss L, the entire conversation was about Jim Jones….where YOU been…?
jimmy is more for entertainment,buh sometimes he does pull threw n gets slep on … summer wit miami ..neva seen that vid on t.v more then twice..
Agreed on the mixdown of don’t forget about me. Been waitin on the full version to release forever and the end product turned out a little lacking. other than that, dipset all day. get that Ruger Rell out now!
Miss L, the entire conversation was about Jim Jones….where YOU been…?
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heres the quote T.C.
” THEY ain’t gonna be around next year”
I thought when u said “they” u were talking about dipset but I reread it and I guess they meant “people like that”?
Then u said ” media as a whole broadcast people like that like its their “time”knowing they ain’t gonna be around next year”
well if they arent going to be around next year then it kinda is their “time” now..not every artist is meant to be around a decade..alot of emcees should still be relevant but their not for alot of reasons. Why is Busta still makin HITS after all these years but no one else from that camp is..meaning leaders of the new school..tip..jungle..de la? cause he knows styles and times change and if ur an artist u change with them and if u a fan u change with it too.
I think u soundin like u stubborn and mad that jimmy’s gettin airplay .. turn the station and if hes on that one to then turn off ur radio ;)
Good pts Ms L & all.
It’s all personal preference & even greater, giving shit a spin that you normally wouldn’t, & doin so w/an open mind. I just feel like cats miss so much b/c they feel like they’ll be sheep if they admit somethin that other people like. If a mass number like it there’s an obvious appeal. Free ya mind & your ass will follow
Well I said I used to fuck with Dipset when then music was pretty decent (pre/mid Rocafella). And you damn right I’m mad he’s gettin’ airplay. Why would I be happy when them niggas have done better shit. Plus all this Dipset following them niggas ain’t doing the numbers to back it up. When your hardcore fans got Imatation or Verbatim that says “Juelz” written wit’ a Sharpie, that’s not a good song. And told someone in a earlier post that if you ignore the foolishness then it will pass and not get in press. I’m pretty sure my musical tastes are as open as it gets. And like I said, the music is an extremely opinionated subject, but to say there’s no such thing as a whack song is overstating things a little bit…
Jim Jones’ “music” is completely unlistenable point blank. Dude is the worst rapper in NYC mainstream history. As simple is this may sound, “We Fly High” is a hit because of the phrase “BALLIN”. I swear the music selection of the masses has gotten worse and worse.
“Dude is the worst rapper in NYC mainstream history.”
@steve
well atleast u gave capo status historical status
i agree with gotty..it think its a sound thats been missin’ for a minute. i’m from the south and i think its its a good look for the bright lights, big city. harlems own rock star
“Jim Jones’ “music” is completely unlistenable”
sucks to be you
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” told someone in a earlier post that if you ignore the foolishness then it will pass and not get in press.”
@T.C.
u lied to someone